I think only Mullahoran and Ballymachugh are the only clubs still pulling from their own area exclusively for juvenile/youth hurling. Cootehill always took from Drumgoon, Kill Drung etc. Woodford now take in most of the surrounding towns. St. Felims used to be just Lacken now they are Lacken, Ballinagh, Arva, Killishandra plus catchment. South Cavan is Munterconnaught, Maghera and Virginia. East Cavan Gaels is Kingscourt, Bailieborough, Shercock with Killinkere and Knockbride. Annalee is Ballyhaise and Redhills. Ballyjamesduff, Virginia and Cavan town are new U8. Mullagh stood alone but now look to be gone proving that the regional model is the only one sustainable.

Pinkie;
If we don't expand juvenile then there will be no adults at all in 5-6 years time. The new model will deliver this. St. Felims and Cootehill are now added to Mullahoran, Ballymachugh and Woodford at minor, a 66% increase. Good or not good???

breffni666 (Cavan) - Posts: 294 - 30/10/2012 18:18:19    1290281

Pinkie

To Many negative people on HS... We could pick at the demise of Wexford Hurling. Cavan Hurling still has a long way to go but the right structures are in place however like in every county their is some individuals whether they be County Board or club officials not pulling their weight when this little tweak is ironed out then All levels of hurling in Cavan especially Senior and Minor Level will be sorted

70mins (Cavan) - Posts: 67 - 30/10/2012 20:54:33    1290399

The Cavan CB to end all Hurling in a 'GREAT' football county have planned a large Bonfire tonight in the middle of Breffni Park. All or any Hurling Sticks should be rounded up and piled as high as possible. This post is a load of crap and will remain so ontil this Cavan CB refix the Senior Club Final asap. You cant try to promote Hurling and cancle your SHCF at the same time. I'm sure 99 per cent of the C CB would ratify tonights Bonfire if the truth was to be known.

kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 31/10/2012 09:56:10    1290495

70mins, I did not mean that as a dig at Cavan, and I will defend my own county position - we have never worked as hard at underage hurling as in recent years and although it'll still take time to filter through I am sure in 5-10 years we will be back up there. Also I feel money spent on hurling in Wexford is money well spent, because our county board care about the game and will do everything to get us back up there. Yes we've made mistakes - a dreadful one this year we played too many minor club games in the run up the Dublin and Galway games, and Dublin beat us and Galway hammered us. But the will is there and that is the first thing that has to be there.

It is great to hear that underage is getting good work and long may that continue, but are the county board supporting the effort? But god help us, what good is putting in hard work at underage only for the senior county final to be fixed for the day before the football final? What sort of thing is that for kids to aspire to? The county board officials who stood over such a decision should be absolutely ashamed of themselves and I cant understand why more questions arent being asked of the rationale and who fixed the games like that.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 31/10/2012 13:24:46    1290643

The county board people just dont care- full stop. Until we get a good crew of hurling people who in turn will fill positions on county board in years to come. Remember the voice of the hurling people was removed from management level in Cavan. All you are left with atm is the " i always loved/ have a soft spot for hurling brigade" not actual hurling people to aggrivate for hurling. It will take time but by God we will get there!

breffni666 (Cavan) - Posts: 294 - 31/10/2012 13:36:16    1290655

As far as I'm aware, Croke Park is putting a fair bit of investment into the development of Cavan hurling. This investment is being matched by the Cavan county board & there are now full-time & part-time staff employed there solely for this purpose. Unfortunately, it seems that a county has to hit rock bottom before anyone will do anything about it & all resources are tied up til this Cavan experiment reaches its conclusion.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 31/10/2012 13:45:26    1290667

Fair point Pinkie.. However sometimes you have to start from the ground up to change things at the top! Their is loads of examples of this around the country... The facts about Wexford is they have had 2/3 good years followed and proceeded by many indifferent years. I dont think Cavan are hoping of Liam Mcarthy success and CB will always choose football first.

However I can now see hope for the hurling people of Cavan that their is some hope in the future. As Breffni 666 said it will take time, Cavan is a county with time on its hands for hurling.

Yes your right the senior fiasco shud have never happened but maybe because of that it mite not happen again it shows the administration at the top level needs to support whats going on at grasssroots more.

Great progress from my opinion has happened it will take time and I wish the WUM's of HS would give praise were credit is due to a so called Football County trying to improve the standard of hurling through all the people in hurling clubs accross cavan

70mins (Cavan) - Posts: 67 - 31/10/2012 15:16:57    1290724

70mins, your dead right and it's great that work is going in, my point is though that no matter what people do, until you get hurling people in key positions on the county board, or even set up your own hurling board, that ultimately all this effort will count to nothing.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 31/10/2012 15:50:42    1290748

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1290667
As far as I'm aware, Croke Park is putting a fair bit of investment into the development of Cavan hurling. This investment is being matched by the Cavan county board & there are now full-time & part-time staff employed there solely for this purpose. Unfortunately, it seems that a county has to hit rock bottom before anyone will do anything about it & all resources are tied up til this Cavan experiment reaches its conclusion.

UNTRUE UNTRUE AND UNTRUE. Dont believe all of the spin.
There is NO new investment in hurling in Cavan especially from Croke Park because if there was we would know about it. The money saved by not having a county side pays the wages of the full time hurling officer. The other two part-time positions are on Jobbridge which the State pays an extra allowance on top of social welfare, the rest is ploughed into football. Anyhow CB are not renewing these positions(the two people in them anyway) which is madness imo. Just to be very clear here, there is no new money invested in Cavan hurling and from what I hear Cavan CB don't want to continue to fund this limited amount anymore and are looking to CP to fund it all!!! Still not to be trusted-yet.

breffni666 (Cavan) - Posts: 294 - 31/10/2012 17:04:20    1290787

Mods; probably need to move this to the Cavan page. Im sure the rest of the country are not really interested.

breffni666 (Cavan) - Posts: 294 - 31/10/2012 18:31:53    1290827

It IS interesting for genuine GAA people from other counties especially comparable ones like my own. I hope the initiative in Cavan is a success (regardless of who funds it) & I'd like to see something similar happen here.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 31/10/2012 20:01:59    1290858

It needs to come from hurling people themselves. Dont wait, go and find 5 adults and start a regional club U8/10. Dont wait for your CB to do it as you will be waiting...........

breffni666 (Cavan) - Posts: 294 - 31/10/2012 21:01:15    1290877

It needs to come from hurling people themselves. Dont wait, go and find 5 adults and start a regional club U8/10. Dont wait for your CB to do it as you will be waiting...........

breffni666 (Cavan) - Posts: 294 - 31/10/2012 21:59:49    1290903

breffni666, if you move this to the Cavan page it'll get even less attention I would suggest....and there are plenty of hurling people who want to see the GAA help hurling in the likes of Cavan, not kill it off. We'd all love to see Longford playing Cavan in an All-Ireland hurling final in 50 years tie, I cant help doubting it has even a prayer of happening though!

Hurling board is the only answer to promote the game within the county.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 01/11/2012 09:40:57    1290933

Pinkie)

U probally right however I think Hurling in the county still needs to keep building the blocks with the younger ages making sure enough children are playing in which their is a lot at present.

Then wen enough adults and coaches have come into the system either attempt to set up your own board or move onto influencial positins within County Board. I know that there is good representaion all the way up to U16 this is why things are going quite well however after that now needs to improve.

70mins (Cavan) - Posts: 67 - 01/11/2012 11:53:18    1291035

In my opinion, every child growing up in Ireland should have the opportunity of playing hurling or camógie to a reasonable standard. The GAA, I believe, is obligated to this end. I don't care if Longford never gets to contest an All-Ireland hurling final. How many years have we been trying to get to a football final???

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 01/11/2012 13:33:58    1291143

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Well said keeper7, Each child deserves the oppurtunity and their is not a big effort needed by people to do so. How do clubs in county's who promote both have the time to play the both?

I beleive the tide is turning and a new sense of beleif is being instilled into weaker/developing hurling counties. They are looking to how things are working in Cavan and other counties

70mins (Cavan) - Posts: 67 - 02/11/2012 11:27:01    1291529

There were many false dawns in the past for Longford. At different stages there were 6 or 8 underage clubs. With only 4 senior clubs we were able to compete with the likes of Armagh & could always beat Mayo, Sligo & Louth - counties who've since leapfrogged us while we've gone the other way.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 02/11/2012 14:22:34    1291659

Hopefully ye can come back up to a more competitive level!!

70mins (Cavan) - Posts: 67 - 02/11/2012 15:23:10    1291711

If this year's U16 final was anything to go by the future is bright but we're gonna need a progressive initiative to secure the future of hurling in the county.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 02/11/2012 19:22:14    1291827