i must admit the change to summer soccer greatly affected my support of longford town as it was often something to go to when the gaa was not on

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 11/11/2012 21:34:03    1296264

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1486

1296264 i must admit the change to summer soccer greatly affected my support of longford town as it was often something to go to when the gaa was not on

the lady does protest too much, me thinks.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 11/11/2012 21:48:18    1296274

no our media is predominatly british so i can see why that this is the reason they promote british soccer over irish soccer,the problem i have is with irish people who are gullible and like sheep and follow into this trend without realising how stupid it is to then turn around after supporting man utd or liverpool on a saturday to then turn around and slag and slate the english national team which is made up of the same players they cheered for the few days before,whilst then becoming irish soccer supporters despite the fact they have no interest in irish soccer.

100% + 1.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 12/11/2012 09:19:08    1296298

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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1296235 culann

i agree with you culann he is blind to this unfortunatly he is like alot of people in our country that are influenced by the media and are like sheep falling to line.
also agree about the inferiority complex which happens across the board not just sport its sad to see that after 700 hundred years of being tryed to be made into an english culture and defying that for all them years now that we have our own civil rights the country irionicly is now choosing to become more of an english culture self imposingly.

What is even worse still is that when you point this out you get 'labled' by people like ffgg as being anti- British, inward thinking etc etc. If you are not a part of this 'new found confident' and 'modern' and 'open and matyre' Ireland there is something wrong with you! Fella's in Leinster House are now going around wearing the poopy while in there. It is these same people who will not be seen dead wearing a lilly. That sums up Irish people for me. FFGG calls me anti-British but I'm not. I just have a huge lack of respect for a lot of Irish people. I do not know where it all went wrong. I feel a lot of Irish people have much more in common with things British and American than things Irish yet these same people get stroppy when people question their Irishness.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 12/11/2012 09:27:35    1296301

I strongly agree with Culann's post. We are now a country which is basically run by Investors who don't give a damn about Ireland. The media are all trying to outdo each other with their dramatisation of non important events. And the most annoying thing for me is that the English Premier League is given more prominence in our media that the GAA or any other Irish sports for that matter. The majority of the country are drones to the banks, the tv and advertisers. God help our children.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 12/11/2012 10:40:50    1296329

fgg
County: Longford
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its funny how this thread has turned from a jim mcguiness bashing thread by hill to a celtic irish soccer team and barstoolers as league of ireland people call those who do not go to the league bashing thread

you were the one attacked my opinion and began labelling me and promoting celtic as a giant of a club so dont try and say it was me who started going off subject of the thread.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 12:04:20    1296371

ffgg

how am i completly wrong the socttish league doesnt break 10 thousand except for one team so how is it one of best supported leagues becuase of population wow great arguement so that would actualy mean leitrim footballers have better support than the scottish premier teams if you want to go by that way wouldnt it as there population is less and they get more,also you were saying how one of the clubs celtic is a global successfull club now your saying its brilliant for small population which is it you cant be global and have small population its ridiculous.so your arguemtn about how much of an achievment it was to win scotland is irrelevant becuase you need money to make the league successful so going by this if some billionaire russian or arab came over here and bought a club and ploughed money into it you would then start supporting that team here would you?yet again if somebody does not hold something in the same high esteem as your opinion you accuse of be littling that club which is again labelling.no shelbourne are a club who went for success and tryed to make the break through by putting all their eggs in one basket and they were very close to achieving that as they were 30 mins away from getting into the champions league proper,its unfortunate that it comes down to money as they had terrific structures in place but as soccer is no longer a sport and its a buisness thats were they failed,had they have broken through that barrier i guarntee you they would have the likes of you now cheering them on switching allegiances from british clubs to them.
its funny you accuse me of changing the thread and all you are doing is talking about celtic haha your some man.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 12:15:01    1296382

ffgg

if they are not born and raised in ireland how are they irish? no if they are born and raised in england scotland wales or usa they are from that country thats like saying if your parents are from kerry and mayo and your born and raised in longford does that make you half kerry half mayo and not longford person?
yeah just listen to gabriel byrne and you will know all about the dispora rubbish.if a player is good enough he should be picked so you think shane long shouldnt be picked becuase he was here even though he has the same ability is ridiculous but paul green had no club and yet got picked to play at euros but you dont think that makes the manager look like an idiot?can you not identify skill so going by your thinking no player should ever be picked from an irish club to play for any other club as they are unproven who had they done it against so why should english clubs pick them so shane long kevin doyle and ward and fahey should never have got moves at all you feel?no your wrong again as sean boylan picked guys playing junior football and never played at a high level but yet went on to win all ireland for meath,your just copping out on the talent show as you know my point is valid.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 12:23:25    1296390

ffgg
County: Longford
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the irish national side represent ireland do they not?...yes they represent the irish people both those living in the country and those outside it..the bulk of them down through the years? haha it was only the 1990 team which was largely of irish descent was it not?...again making uneducated posts if you actually looked at the facts you will see the majority of irish national sides are dominated by players who lived and are from this island so stop trying to make me out to be a hypocrite and come up with actual facts to support your argument

the irish national side is the representive team of the football league of ireland the FAI.
no all irish teams thorugh the years were made of plastic paddys i already named differant players from differant teams.
none of them lived here so yet again you are wrong.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 12:27:28    1296393

Culann

couldnt agree with you more you see enda kenny and ministers appearing at funerals and rememberance services for british army and officers and that prison warden and yet they condemn our own for doing the same things,like that prison warden had aunion jack on his coffin and he supposed to be an imparcial warden in a republican prison and kenny and co go along to his funeral that behaviour only antagonises republicans,but yet when the anniversary of the dublin and monaghan bombings was being held kenny and our president had the leader of that empire a few hundred yards up the road and showed a massive lack of respect for the families of them victims.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 12:35:11    1296399

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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1296399 Culann

couldnt agree with you more you see enda kenny and ministers appearing at funerals and rememberance services for british army and officers and that prison warden and yet they condemn our own for doing the same things,like that prison warden had aunion jack on his coffin and he supposed to be an imparcial warden in a republican prison and kenny and co go along to his funeral that behaviour only antagonises republicans,but yet when the anniversary of the dublin and monaghan bombings was being held kenny and our president had the leader of that empire a few hundred yards up the road and showed a massive lack of respect for the families of them victims.

100% spot on hill. It sickens me what this country has become.

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 12/11/2012 12:53:13    1296422

Culann ..just checking something my memory here was it you I discussed some months back about good GAA coverage in Irish newspapers and you had said the Irish Daily Mail was good?
Just checking it was you and while I agree it is good I stopped reading when I realised it was the Daily Mail (Ireland on Sunday Previously).

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 12/11/2012 13:16:28    1296436

ffgg
County: Longford
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1296264
i must admit the change to summer soccer greatly affected my support of longford town as it was often something to go to when the gaa was not on

i thaught you went to national league games during the spring

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 13:26:05    1296443

Tyronetim
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Culann ..just checking something my memory here was it you I discussed some months back about good GAA coverage in Irish newspapers and you had said the Irish Daily Mail was good?
Just checking it was you and while I agree it is good I stopped reading when I realised it was the Daily Mail (Ireland on Sunday Previously).

one of your better decisions

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 12/11/2012 13:33:00    1296445

Tyronetim
County: Tyrone
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1296436 Culann ..just checking something my memory here was it you I discussed some months back about good GAA coverage in Irish newspapers and you had said the Irish Daily Mail was good?
Just checking it was you and while I agree it is good I stopped reading when I realised it was the Daily Mail (Ireland on Sunday Previously).

Thats correct. Not the Daily paper but the Sunday paper. I buy that particualar paper every Sunday for the sports supplement. I couldn't tell you what does be in the main part. It is without question the best Sunday paper for GAA coverage. There are at least three full pages dedicated to GAA every Sunday and usually 4 - and that in the inetercounty off season. Understandably Joe Brolly's column has not appeared in the paper for three or four weeks now. If its GAA coverage you want I would recommend it. Have you ann issue with this?

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 12/11/2012 13:47:37    1296463

Are you staring at my pint?..

That's your choice obviously so I'll not dictate what paper you should read (Genuinely).
I used to read it myself for the same reasons you give and watched as it morphed into the Sunday Mail first by stealth then out loud and proud as the Irish Mail On Sunday.I think the problem is good GAA coverage is hard to get on a Sunday but I can't get by the fact it's the Mail which has a nasty pernicious record against Ireland and Irishmen. I can't reconcile the Prefix of Irish in front of these newspapers sufficiently to forget their record past and present.
Earlier this year I read its sport for the GAA and read Roddy Forsyth's column on Scottish soccer. This was prior to the full extent of Ranger's misdemeanors came to light. It stuck in my throat that here he was a columnist in a supposedly Irish paper supporting David Murray and his activities and suggested that rather than laugh Celtic fans would gladly swap places with Rangers for their trophy cabinet. The same guy regularly suggested that Neil Lennon brought attacks such as the Hearts one upon himself.
Even this week the Daily Mail has kicked of a particularly venomous attack on James McClean, a native of Derry to which it repeatedly referred to as Londonderry and his republican views. It then went on to intimate that Martin O'Neill also had some questions to answer as to his non-poppy adourned training sweat top. This kind of editorial will make James life very difficult in the North East of England where many people would know or have family members in the British Armed forces.
While I concede we are stuck for choice the paper is still the Mail.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 12/11/2012 14:12:45    1296485

Are you staring at my pint?..

That's your choice obviously so I'll not dictate what paper you should read (Genuinely).
I used to read it myself for the same reasons you give and watched as it morphed into the Sunday Mail first by stealth then out loud and proud as the Irish Mail On Sunday.I think the problem is good GAA coverage is hard to get on a Sunday but I can't get by the fact it's the Mail which has a nasty pernicious record against Ireland and Irishmen. I can't reconcile the Prefix of Irish in front of these newspapers sufficiently to forget their record past and present.
Earlier this year I read its sport for the GAA and read Roddy Forsyth's column on Scottish soccer. This was prior to the full extent of Ranger's misdemeanors came to light. It stuck in my throat that here he was a columnist in a supposedly Irish paper supporting David Murray and his activities and suggested that rather than laugh Celtic fans would gladly swap places with Rangers for their trophy cabinet. The same guy regularly suggested that Neil Lennon brought attacks such as the Hearts one upon himself.
Even this week the Daily Mail has kicked of a particularly venomous attack on James McClean, a native of Derry to which it repeatedly referred to as Londonderry and his republican views. It then went on to intimate that Martin O'Neill also had some questions to answer as to his non-poppy adourned training sweat top. This kind of editorial will make James life very difficult in the North East of England where many people would know or have family members in the British Armed forces.
While I concede we are stuck for choice the paper is still the Mail.
Tyronetim , 12/11/2012 at 14:12

Are you staring at mine?

First off I have very little (if no) interest in soccer so I wouldn't read soccer articles. I'd read the very odd one about League of Ireland but thats as far as that goes. I understand it is a British paper that has a long anti Irish past but look at all the other papers on offer. Times, Indo, Sunday World, Sunday Star Mirror, Busines Post etc etc. These are meant to be Irish and pro Irish but look at the damage these have all done to Ireland. They promote Brirish soccer as if its ours and disregard Irish soccer and GAA related news. Not to mention their general news. This to me is worse. The Daily Mail is British. These other papers are Irish yet I have to go to the mail for a bit of GAA coverage.

Anyway, I do not read any papers - except for GAA, boxing, golf and the odd piece of other sports news - and I do not let them influence who I am as a person or what I believe in.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 12/11/2012 14:25:13    1296495

thats actualy another important point made about this poppy wearing in ireland i even saw enda kenny were one now this man should at least not be ignorant to what the poppy wearing is all about unlike other people who think its cool to wear one becuase they see it on strictly come dancing or x factor or some of these shows.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 14:35:53    1296501

Jaysus..we've no chance if it ever becomes cool.
Sure the justice minister referred to Derry as ..L/derry.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 12/11/2012 14:53:19    1296515

That's the problem Culann we struggle for choice particlaulry on a Sunday. We get the the Irish news here which is great for GAA (On sale in Ath Cliath) but on a Sunday I struggle..but I will not be seduced by the devil to get my GAA fix...too many bitter memories for that.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 12/11/2012 14:59:42    1296518