ffgg
County: Longford
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What a ridiculous comment about Gilroy, so you don't like Dublin big deal, get over it. As for the Jim the Man from Donegal, he has gotten what he wanted, what he worked for, what he sacrificed for. But it was never ever about Donegal, it was always a project centred around Jim McGuinness. Someday the scales will fall from the deluded eyes, he (like Gilroy) gave the masses what they wanted. But to compare the two is just off the wall.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 10/11/2012 21:30:10    1295825

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 1149

1295825 ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1445

What a ridiculous comment about Gilroy, so you don't like Dublin big deal, get over it. As for the Jim the Man from Donegal, he has gotten what he wanted, what he worked for, what he sacrificed for. But it was never ever about Donegal, it was always a project centred around Jim McGuinness. Someday the scales will fall from the deluded eyes, he (like Gilroy) gave the masses what they wanted. But to compare the two is just off the wall.

+ 1. I'm still trying to work out why these two men ar being compared.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 11/11/2012 11:16:34    1295863

Fair play to Jim McGuinness he got the best out of Donegal and now he's bringing out the best in HS posters Bitter Bitter Boy's:)

allSOran (Sligo) - Posts: 690 - 11/11/2012 11:53:29    1295874

Where the hell do you get that it was always about Jim McGuinness?

...."But it was never ever about Donegal, it was always a project centred around Jim McGuinness".....

Did Jimmy McGuinness not apply and get turned down 3 times for the Donegal job? He delivered what many would never have considered feasible and certainly not in that space of time.
Most inter-county managers who are natives of that county are doing what they are doing for their county. That level of commitment without pay can only lead to that conclusion. I'd include Gilroy in that unless there is specific evidence to the contrary these people deserve that respect.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 11/11/2012 12:09:04    1295879

Fair play to the man but lets forget all this "well done Jim" stuff.Were ALL dead jealous,end of story.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 11/11/2012 12:17:37    1295882

what are you on about i have nothing against gilroy at all zero or dublin... im just questioning why jim mcguiness can be accused of leaving for money and gilroy cannot as hill said the only difference between them was mcguiness was leaving for another sport and all i was wondering why should the fact that the job is in a sport matter?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 11/11/2012 13:06:12    1295892

not only have you accused me arock of being anti dublin which is ridic but you havee tried to accuse mcguiness of having alter motives for managing donegal!

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 11/11/2012 13:07:21    1295893

God but there are some sore losers on here!!!

The biggest problem some people have is that McGuinness & Donegal crashed their party this year just when they were talking about putting back to back All Irelands on the table.
How funny that looks now!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 11/11/2012 14:23:47    1295922

Congratulations to Jim McGuinness on getting this job, he has worked hard for this opportunity and anyone who tries to begrudge him this opportunity really is (as muckross said) a loser. He has been offered a very good job in his chosen field which he went back to school for and worked really hard to get later in life which makes it all the more rewarding for him personally, yet some people have the gumption to criticise him, unbelievable! Jims passion is Donegal and it is gaelic football the fact that his profession has led him to be working with the dreaded other side (soccer and rugby) as 'some' posters like to view it makes our gaelic games all the more credible. As an amateur game to have one of our top coaches headhunted and offered a job of such stature at a professional level just shows how far our games have come. I would be far more worried about our game if this kind of thing wasn't happening. Kudos to Jim McGuinness especially as he could've taken the easy route and said he needs to concentrate on his career and offer his resignation to Donegal gaa.
People get real, Jim McGuinness is an inspiration and a man of principle, if he wasn't then he would've offered his resignation.

tipptothetop (Tipperary) - Posts: 531 - 11/11/2012 16:26:41    1295997

ffgg

im not taking shots im telling the truth you can buy into the media hype around celtic all you want but the plain answers are there to be seen they play in a league that is of the exact same standard as the airtricity league yet you have repeatedly said you dont rate it and it is crap to watch.
how many times have celtic got out of the champions league group stages?
massive support base take alook at the scottish league attendances rangers actualy had more at their division 3 league match then the entire scottsih premier league matches combined one week and that includes celtic.gilroys time was up with dublin and he left.
now i believe mcguinness is staying with donegal since i last was on here so i would like to wish him all the best in combining both jobs and say fair play to him for not leaving.my original point was based on the reports i read on here and pepers quoting 150,000 salary which would mean he would have to spend at least 4 days in scotland that was why i said he was leaving but them reports seem to be wrong and looks like now he will only spend 3 days at most maybe.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/11/2012 16:31:57    1296004

ffgg

im not taking shots im telling the truth you can buy into the media hype around celtic all you want but the plain answers are there to be seen they play in a league that is of the exact same standard as the airtricity league yet you have repeatedly said you dont rate it and it is crap to watch.
how many times have celtic got out of the champions league group stages?
massive support base take alook at the scottish league attendances rangers actualy had more at their division 3 league match then the entire scottsih premier league matches combined one week and that includes celtic.gilroys time was up with dublin and he left.
now i believe mcguinness is staying with donegal since i last was on here so i would like to wish him all the best in combining both jobs and say fair play to him for not leaving.my original point was based on the reports i read on here and pepers quoting 150,000 salary which would mean he would have to spend at least 4 days in scotland that was why i said he was leaving but them reports seem to be wrong and looks like now he will only spend 3 days at most maybe.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/11/2012 16:32:26    1296006

yes well thats my issue he was leaving..celtic must have been away from home as they have a much bigger ground than rangers meaning a higher average attendence...as for celtic its not their fault they are in a crap league they are streets ahead of anybody in scotland and ireland there is no point trying to take shots at them most people would openly acknowledge they are a massive club especially in britain..they have got out of the group once or twice i think which is a very good achievement considering they have a very small budget due to coming from a small league and they also have a great chance of getting out of the group again...rangers are a massive club also so what do you mean?it seems you just dislike celtic for some reason i dont know its just what comes across in your post anyway if this is the case would you elaborate on why?..its not media hype that celtic are a big club its a fact they are one of the best supported teams in the world why do they have a 60,000 seater stadium which they fill a lot or close to?..they are also former european champions and reached the europe league final not too long ago also and great players have also played for them so i dont understand how in the name of god it is media hype

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 11/11/2012 16:43:15    1296016

Hill, Celtic just beat Barcelona in the champions league at home and were very unlucky not to get a result agains them in Barcelona, now you might not know this but this Barcelona team is among the greatest teams to have ever played, arguably the best. What team in the airtricity league do you think would beat Barcelona?

tipptothetop (Tipperary) - Posts: 531 - 11/11/2012 16:43:18    1296017

ffgg

your the hypocrite here you label me for any opinion that doesnt agree with yours and yet you call me anti soccer when i actualy attend SOCCER IN THIS COUNTRY unlike you who continually puts it down and ridicules it.you also show any lack of appreciation for the gaa as you continualy state that the league doesnt matter at all and the gaa season only starts in june.i attend horse racing all over ireland and go to the world grand prix at the citywest every october(which is a darts tournament held here).my opinion on other sports tapping up gaa players is clear yes it doesnt mean im anti other sports i just dont like to see the gaa been taken for mugs by investing all the time and money into getting these players to adult level and then another sport come in and wave the cash to steal them away.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/11/2012 16:43:29    1296019

i never said the scottish league was any good either i just would have it as slightly higher than the irish league...celtic and rangers until dis year obviously being miles ahead of anybody ireland...the scottish league is getting more and more like ireland however as the money is going more and more out of the game in scotland...on attendences however it is known as one of the better attended leagues in the world when you factor in % of population

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 11/11/2012 16:47:07    1296023

you come across as clear anti any soccer or anti any sport which takes place outside this country..that is just my opinion there is numerous instances where you have shown this and you even showed it in relation to the irish soccer team during the euros which i find rather sad.. it was widely reported mcguiness was staying on yet you jumped to attack the man....as for the gaa i feel the league doesnt matter much to me..i still attended all my county league games this year bar 1 i think when there was nothing to play for and we had already qualified...how do i not appreciate the gaa?..just because i regard the league as irrelevant in relation to importance to championship performance?...you only brought up the league in that argument anyway cause dublin had a good league in 2011...you gotta come up with better than that please..the man isnt being tapped up he is getting employment which in an area which this country did not provide for him or his family thats about it he doesnt deserve to be attacked for it

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 11/11/2012 16:56:43    1296029

what about the labels you apply to those who go playing aussie rules and gave everything to the gaa for nothing and also the label you jumped to label at mcguiness?..so please do not try and pretend to be all serious about somebody labelling you show some respect to others and you might receive some

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 11/11/2012 16:58:22    1296031

ffgg

my original post related to the socttish league which is of the same calibre as our own so he is joining a club playing in the same standard of league as our own and if he was levaing donegal to work with kids at celtic that would in my opinion have been a step down in terms of a sporting carrear.
they are not a massive club though how becuase they win a league that is crap every year? qualifying from the group is hardly a an achieve once for a massive club now is it?rangers are a division 3 club !!!!!
why do you always think i dislike something becuase i dont hold them in the same high estemm as you or the media? im just being honest if they played in england they would be in the championship which means they would not get into the champions league for starters.they won it once how many years ago?
leitrim are former connaught champions does that make them a massive team in connaught.the europa league is an awful competition its like the o byrne shield for teams not good enough for the main competition just like the challenge cup in rugby.they have good support yes mostly down to the fact they play on a sectarian elemant.

tipptothetop

they got played off the park by barcelona got one good goal and a long ball that they scored for the second goal,for the entire game barcelona owned the ball and were all over them granted celtic defended well but to say they were the better team is madness,simliar to ireland v russia in the qualifying for euros we got a 0v0 draw but russia should have won by 6 or 7 does not make ireland a good side.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/11/2012 17:05:12    1296038

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1470

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i never said the scottish league was any good either i just would have it as slightly higher than the irish league...celtic and rangers until dis year obviously being miles ahead of anybody ireland...the scottish league is getting more and more like ireland however as the money is going more and more out of the game in scotland...on attendences however it is known as one of the better attended leagues in the world when you factor in % of population

one of the better attended leagues hahahaha are you for real apart from celtic no side can get more then 10 thousand for home matches and tat is onlywhen they play celtic,the league is poorly attended

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/11/2012 17:07:21    1296039

ffgg

no you clearly cannot understand the fact that somebody would rather attend and watch sport played in the country they are from over sport hyped up by the media not played in the country you are from. why should i support a team that is supposed to be representing ireland and yet none of the players live or play in ireland and most of the team only play for ireland becuase their grandparents are from ireland and they are not good enough to play for england,i find that sad that their are plenty of guys born raise and play in ireland that will never be looked at until they actualy leave the country they are supposed to be representing.
you regard only 1 competition in the gaa calendar of twelve months as important that is showing a lack of regard.
what are you on about that i only brough up league because dublin had good league in 2011 thats a statement a child would make seriously.
if somebody leaves the gaa which they were involved in all their life to go play another sport becuase they are offered money to do so its not hard to see why i have an opinion on that being wrong.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/11/2012 17:15:30    1296051