but your whole argument is based off nobody getting good support in scotland bar celtic i have showed you 3 other clubs who average over 10,000 at their home games and you still dispute this by pointing to attendences at games when these clubs were playing away from home!!....celtic have won the european cup and also getting to the europe league final was a magnificent achievement again you show your ignorance making more factually incorrect statements celtic have got out of the group more than once the link shows their record in europe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_F.C._in_European_football

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 12/11/2012 20:02:13    1296719

more incorrect pub argument statements with zero to back it up...you again talk complete nonense it is blatantly obvious the vast majority of players who have represented ireland come from the island itself please stop continuing to dispute this provide evidence to show this is not the case please?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 12/11/2012 20:04:02    1296721

hill according to you ''as for your ireland thing come on i listed off top of my head those players and they were all involved in major tournaments''

im struggling to find anywhere where leon best and caleb folan represented ireland in major tournaments..i dont mean to be picky but i do like to argue in terms of facts especially if we are talking about subjects such as attendences and the irish national team......please use facts please its not that hard

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 12/11/2012 20:22:40    1296735

Lads & lassies - this thread was supposed to air the merits or otherwise of Jimmy McGuinness opting for a professional sports contract outside of Gaelic football while still maintaining his role as Donegal football manager.

There is an eleven a side forum for discussing the other issues now being painfully posted.

dingle2 (Kerry) - Posts: 278 - 12/11/2012 20:30:11    1296741

i agree yes i am happy to go to another forum or to leave it at that

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 12/11/2012 20:35:50    1296749

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1511

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even if your evidence is actually true you pick out the weekend when the 3 best supported teams outside of celtic are playing away from home and then put forward an argument of how poor the league is supported?...god do you not realise how weak your argument is?give up please its getting laughable

i didnt go through to pick anything haha your so deluded i just gave you the most recent round of matches thats all,just give it up man its getting desperate your fixation with scottish soccer.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 21:22:19    1296775

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1511

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i agree yes i am happy to go to another forum or to leave it at that

haha says the man trying to make celtic out to b the greatest club on earth.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 21:23:59    1296778

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1511

1296721
more incorrect pub argument statements with zero to back it up...you again talk complete nonense it is blatantly obvious the vast majority of players who have represented ireland come from the island itself please stop continuing to dispute this provide evidence to show this is not the case please?

i gave you over 20 names from the last few years

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 21:24:52    1296779

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1511

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hill according to you ''as for your ireland thing come on i listed off top of my head those players and they were all involved in major tournaments''

im struggling to find anywhere where leon best and caleb folan represented ireland in major tournaments..i dont mean to be picky but i do like to argue in terms of facts especially if we are talking about subjects such as attendences and the irish national team......please use facts please its not that hard


yeah they were involved in qualifying oh my bad if they didnt make first 11 in the actual tournament with injuries or whatever seriously just let it go we all have differant opinions.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 21:27:49    1296781

dingle2
County: Kerry
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Lads & lassies - this thread was supposed to air the merits or otherwise of Jimmy McGuinness opting for a professional sports contract outside of Gaelic football while still maintaining his role as Donegal football manager.

There is an eleven a side forum for discussing the other issues now being painfully posted.

just on the jimbo situation i wonder with all these defctions to other sports sweetman to munster kilkenny to aussie rules mcguinness to celtic i wonder would the same congratulations be given to a gaa player or manager who took up an offer to join rangers and leave the gaa,would that person be patted on the back?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 21:31:24    1296786

why would you pick only a single round of matches and then claim scotland is poorly attended league?..the average attendence would obviously be a far better statistic to used do you have any education at all on these matters?...its not a fixation hill i just dont see the point with somebody making idiotic points with nothing to back them up surely you should only make statements in relation to attendence or plastic paddys if you can actually back them up with actual evidence to support your point?..my issue is not your opinion my issue is you trying to claim stuff as fact which as i have proven are not fact...where did i make celtic out to be the greatest club in the world i said they were a big club that is it....have an opinion but if you want to get in an argument especially about something as specific as attendences actually look at the evidence before you say something as your opinion will come off looking very silly as it has done here...they were not picked for the tournament that is why they were not there they did not even make the squad...move on

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 12/11/2012 21:34:24    1296788

This thread is about Jim McGuinness and his job at Celtic. If you wish to talk about soccer in the route this thread is heading, you are more than welcome to do so by setting up a thread on the Elevenaside forum. Any messages off topic will not be posted. Thank you. Admin

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2275 - 12/11/2012 21:35:12    1296790

haha poor owl ffgg gone mad with the owl scottish stuff you admin involved.
back to topic as they say in the states.
so if jim mcguinness or any other gaa player went to join glasgow rangers would it be as well recieved.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/11/2012 21:54:00    1296800

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 1514

1296600 i wouldnt mind but i rarely read the papers myself i just prefer european football to irish football and i also am big into certain among sports such as basketball and american football along with the gaa...i do feel culann that you need to stop labelling people as sheep just because they have seperate interests to you

Quote for me where I labled people as sheep. (if you can)

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 13/11/2012 10:35:28    1296838

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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1296800 haha poor owl ffgg gone mad with the owl scottish stuff you admin involved.
back to topic as they say in the states.
so if jim mcguinness or any other gaa player went to join glasgow rangers would it be as well recieved.

I don't think so!

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 13/11/2012 10:39:30    1296843

Maybe one or two notables would be happy with him joining NewCo. but comparisons between both clubs are not sensible....both have much different histories and backgrounds

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 13/11/2012 12:13:50    1296900

hill16no1man
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as for your irish players let me see off the top of my head all these played but were not irish.
andy townsend,ray houghton,mick mccarthy,chris morris,alan mcgloughlin,
tony cascarino,john aldridge,john sheridan,terry phelan,tommy coyne,
steven reid, phil babb,matt holland,jason mccateear,lee carsley,
david connolly,sean st ledger,aiden mcgeady, simon cox,
jon walters,paul green,clinton morrison,leon best,caleb folan,

is that enough facts for you

you forgot about Dave O'Leary and Paul McGrath

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 13/11/2012 12:32:55    1296911

I cant possibly see how this move is going to work.Gaa is almost professional in terms of its approach regardless of the money.What will Donegal feel of a manager that cant give it his all and how is Jim going to make time for his family around this hectic schedule.Its not going to work in my opinion.Cork or Mayo to win sam 2013

Take_em_off (Mayo) - Posts: 212 - 13/11/2012 14:27:58    1296999

i dont think it is a fair comparison at all as if anybody has a clue about donegals close links with celtic and their relationship with rangers would know

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 13/11/2012 14:50:31    1297022

but we had everyone wish kilkenney and sweetnam all the success as they were taken a carrear move and chance of professional bla bla bla but its all differant when its glasgow rangers are they not professional club should someone not get the same back slapping and well wishing.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2012 17:49:41    1297183