ormondbannerman


05/10/2012 19:46:50
AthCliath
That doesnt mean anything is getter any faster. Just means the ball is bobbling around the pitch longer.
Yes it does. The ball in on the pitch more which means players have to move more on the pitch which means the game is faster


Just means more nap time for some of the lads when they are in the scrum. When the ball goes into touch , they have to move then .

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 06/10/2012 11:13:01    1279017

06/10/2012 11:13:01
AthCliath
Just means more nap time for some of the lads when they are in the scrum. When the ball goes into touch , they have to move then.

WUM alert for this post.
You havent a clue. Scrum time is very tough time.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/10/2012 11:31:42    1279024

ormond

not if your not directly involved in the scrum its hardly tough for the other guys who stand watching it

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/10/2012 14:49:38    1279100

i have seen numerous pubs on the northside with munster leinster flags etc and irish rugby flags so maybe i havent been in the same areas as you..well its not great to see players leave but it is totally up to the players themselves and you or the gaa have no right to stop them from playing other sports that is just completely backward narrow minded and old fashioned.....as for the media i mean it is treated very poorly due to being the biggest sport in ireland and in dublin yet rugby receives the most coverage in the city by far both in the papers and also with the marketing and other stuff...the evening herald is the exception as it is quite good for gaa coverage.....you again seem to think i am attacking dublin when i am not you cannot deny rugby is openly portrayed as the biggest sport in the city when it is not and there is more to the city than the northside i mean the city as a whole...this does not take place anywhere else in the country to the same extent

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 06/10/2012 15:11:02    1279107

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i have seen numerous pubs on the northside with munster leinster flags etc and irish rugby flags so maybe i havent been in the same areas as you..well its not great to see players leave but it is totally up to the players themselves and you or the gaa have no right to stop them from playing other sports that is just completely backward narrow minded and old fashioned.....as for the media i mean it is treated very poorly due to being the biggest sport in ireland and in dublin yet rugby receives the most coverage in the city by far both in the papers and also with the marketing and other stuff...the evening herald is the exception as it is quite good for gaa coverage.....you again seem to think i am attacking dublin when i am not you cannot deny rugby is openly portrayed as the biggest sport in the city when it is not and there is more to the city than the northside i mean the city as a whole...this does not take place anywhere else in the country to the same extent

they must have been bang in the city if you go as far as connolly staion and out the north starnd you wont find any from there out.
why not try introduce something to stop other sports bullying the gaa and robbing players its a natural thing to do.
rugby is actualy third in line in newspapers soccer gets biggest coverage then gaa then rugby just look at the pages soccer always gets the back pages then gaa then rugby then horse racing that shows there order.i cannot see how you think rugby gets mor promotion from what in the city ? leinster played in heineken cup finals and there was nothing around town or around the whole of dublin where as dublin playing in the championship and houses are done up pubs done up and when got to final in 2011 the whole city centre had buntings and banners up.i doubt you will meet any dublin person on here or around dublin who would even agree with you that rugby is portrayed as the biggest sport in dublin id say you would come across alot who would think soccer is but in the main gaa would be the top answer.yes i am basing this on dublin as a whole from stillorgan to lucan from balbriggan to howth.limerick city is nothing but rugby have you ever seen the place?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/10/2012 16:47:57    1279155

soccer is the main sport in limerick city im told...ah come off it hill your acting very deluded if you dont see the way the papers especially the irish times really big up rugby as the main sport..the amount of coverage the leinster schools cup gets is sick...loads of pubs have them silly heineken cup posters such as the lineout with a big list of pints etc and going to watch heineken cup in the pub has become a huge thing in dublin...you obviously arent on the south side a whole lot if you didnt see how done up the place does be when the heneiken cup comes around....depends what part of dublin the person you are talking to i guess...how are other sports bullying the gaa?..the players are making the decision to play other sports why should that be stopped it is their right?..what part of the city are you from hill northside im guessing where abouts?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 06/10/2012 17:10:14    1279165

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soccer is the main sport in limerick city im told...ah come off it hill your acting very deluded if you dont see the way the papers especially the irish times really big up rugby as the main sport..the amount of coverage the leinster schools cup gets is sick...loads of pubs have them silly heineken cup posters such as the lineout with a big list of pints etc and going to watch heineken cup in the pub has become a huge thing in dublin...you obviously arent on the south side a whole lot if you didnt see how done up the place does be when the heneiken cup comes around....depends what part of dublin the person you are talking to i guess...how are other sports bullying the gaa?..the players are making the decision to play other sports why should that be stopped it is their right?..what part of the city are you from hill northside im guessing where abouts?

playing numbers soccer is but rugby is the most marketed and most supported sport in limerick you said you didnt know anywhere outside dublin that is treated that way and limerick city is rugby only territory.i disagree in pockets of the southside of dublin heineken cup in a pub has grown not across dublin as a whole.
i was and my point is yes in pockets of the southside but the whole of dublin was done up for the championship.north east dublin i am from

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/10/2012 17:54:44    1279185

ffgg

have you ever been to limerick?
if you think dublin has rugby promoted you can multiply what you have or havent seen in dublin by 10 if you visit limerick it realy is the rugby capital of ireland.
ormond im sure will tell you that

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/10/2012 17:57:00    1279188

yes iv heard it is awful bad with the rugby country nonsense

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 06/10/2012 17:58:53    1279189

ah the whole south east and areas of the city centre have been done for the heneiken cup...im not disputing playing numbers as soccer and gaa are obviously miles ahead of rugby in that department in dublin...even areas like smithfield are stating to appeal to the heineken cup..i find it hard to believe myself...i will agree with you rugby probably appears non existent in north east dublin its just mainly the posters and that would annoy you as i myself would be annoyed by it from living in dublin as there is no comparison between the coverage the leinster schools cup gets compared to its gaa counterpart

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 06/10/2012 18:00:58    1279190

vodafone have a gaa pull out every tuesday in the herald the same as rugby has on friday and soccer on a monday i think its very evenly spread the schools and colleges coverage.i dont even know a person who goes to rugby matches to support leinster or goes to the pub to watch them in heineken cup,rugby ionly exists in pockets of dublin at the moment

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/10/2012 18:14:28    1279191

limerick pubs are rugby only,munster were playing a match and it was on live in the pub,after the match the world darts championship was on and i asked the barman could he put the darts on one of the 5 tvs in the pub,the barman switched over 10 mins later the pub was filling up with people who had just been at the match and the darts was switched off and a recording of the munster match that had just been on was switched on every single tele.i asked the barman what was the story and he said the manager wanted a re run of the rugby on all the teles.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 06/10/2012 18:19:48    1279194

yeah the herald is a pretty good paper for all sports

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 06/10/2012 18:20:07    1279195

hill16no1man
ormond
not if your not directly involved in the scrum its hardly tough for the other guys who stand watching it
But they have other roles then and the scrum half is heavily and directly involved in the scrum and it depends on position on pitch the scrum is/a teams tactics etc as to the involvement of a sides backline.
ffgg
i have seen numerous pubs on the northside with munster leinster flags etc and irish rugby flags so maybe i havent been in the same areas as you..well its not great to see players leave but it is totally up to the players themselves and you or the gaa have no right to stop them from playing other sports that is just completely backward narrow minded and old fashioned.....as for the media i mean it is treated very poorly due to being the biggest sport in ireland and in dublin yet rugby receives the most coverage in the city by far both in the papers and also with the marketing and other stuff...the evening herald is the exception as it is quite good for gaa coverage.....you again seem to think i am attacking dublin when i am not you cannot deny rugby is openly portrayed as the biggest sport in the city when it is not and there is more to the city than the northside i mean the city as a whole...this does not take place anywhere else in the country to the same extent
The GAA cant complain about marketing as that is very much up to the GAA itself than the media outlets that hurling/football are promoted.
Rugby develops/markets/promotes itself quite well.

06/10/2012 16:47:57
hill16no1man
they must have been bang in the city if you go as far as connolly staion and out the north starnd you wont find any from there out. why not try introduce something to stop other sports bullying the gaa and robbing players its a natural thing to do.
Now dont be ridiculous hill. What sports "bully the gaa"??
The GAA does more robbing or attempts to stop kids from playing rugby than rugby stopping kids from playing GAA.

ffgg
soccer is the main sport in limerick city im told...ah come off it hill your acting very deluded if you dont see the way the papers especially the irish times really big up rugby as the main sport..the amount of coverage the leinster schools cup gets is sick...loads of pubs have them silly heineken cup posters such as the lineout with a big list of pints etc and going to watch heineken cup in the pub has become a huge thing in dublin...you obviously arent on the south side a whole lot if you didnt see how done up the place does be when the heneiken cup comes around....depends what part of dublin the person you are talking to i guess...how are other sports bullying the gaa?..the players are making the decision to play other sports why should that be stopped it is their right?..what part of the city are you from hill northside im guessing where abouts?
Who told you that about limerick?
Thats been mentioned before but it isnt true. I played with a limerick club last season. I play 80% of my games against limerick clubs.
Rugby is the game in Limerick
I agree with you that the coverage of leinster schools rugby is OTT

06/10/2012 17:54:44
hill16no1man
playing numbers soccer is but rugby is the most marketed and most supported sport in limerick you said you didnt know anywhere outside dublin that is treated that way and limerick city is rugby only territory.i disagree in pockets of the southside of dublin heineken cup in a pub has grown not across dublin as a whole.
i was and my point is yes in pockets of the southside but the whole of dublin was done up for the championship.north east dublin i am from
Playing numbers it is rugby as well as marketing/support rugby leads

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/10/2012 18:44:24    1279205

06/10/2012 18:14:28
hill16no1man
vodafone have a gaa pull out every tuesday in the herald the same as rugby has on friday and soccer on a monday i think its very evenly spread the schools and colleges coverage.i dont even know a person who goes to rugby matches to support leinster or goes to the pub to watch them in heineken cup,rugby ionly exists in pockets of dublin at the moment
But rugby is increasing in popularity in areas where it did not do well at all in the past which is all it can do and that can only be good

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/10/2012 18:45:13    1279206

Thanks for all the replies about the contract thing. I guess that will never work.

ormondbannerman
Dont think donegal would be far fitter than almost any pro rugby team. (dont take much offence)Your argument about backs not touching the ball and the bits that follow show a complete lack of knowledge about the sport of rugby

name a club rugby team who's players would beat donegal in a long distance race? they run further in less time than rugby players do.

on my knowledge of the game i bet it's pretty much on par with you. i'm up to date with all the latest news, follow a team closely, played for 20 years and no all the rules. just because half of your posts on here are about rugby doesn't make you more knowledgeable than me.

your saying that because of what i said, well i played a match before where not a single back excluding the outhalf and scrum half touched the ball. we won the game handy too. and i know for a fact many pro games can go 10 mins with practically just the forwards touching the ball giving the backs a serious breather while they are at it.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 06/10/2012 19:47:53    1279233

just people i know who go to college there and know the area and that..rugby is the popular spectator sport due to having a top quality team whereas there is no interest in limerick soccer team for obvious reasons as its not exactly top quality sport...but to play the actual sport soccer is massive especially in the younger ages im told

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 06/10/2012 19:57:58    1279236

yes ormand but so is hurling and to an extent gaelic football on the southside.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 06/10/2012 20:11:51    1279251

06/10/2012 19:47:53
BettystownRoyal
Thanks for all the replies about the contract thing. I guess that will never work.

ormondbannerman
Dont think donegal would be far fitter than almost any pro rugby team. (dont take much offence)Your argument about backs not touching the ball and the bits that follow show a complete lack of knowledge about the sport of rugby

name a club rugby team who's players would beat donegal in a long distance race? they run further in less time than rugby players do.

on my knowledge of the game i bet it's pretty much on par with you. i'm up to date with all the latest news, follow a team closely, played for 20 years and no all the rules. just because half of your posts on here are about rugby doesn't make you more knowledgeable than me.

your saying that because of what i said, well i played a match before where not a single back excluding the outhalf and scrum half touched the ball. we won the game handy too. and i know for a fact many pro games can go 10 mins with practically just the forwards touching the ball giving the backs a serious breather while they are at it.
Dont get uppity as thats what you seem to be getting. Yes sometimes games can go by where backs rarely touch the ball but those games are usually on days where the weather is bad and it would be stupid to risk 10+ metre passes.
Yes games can go by 10mins or so when the backs rarely touch the ball but in that time theyre normally defending and have other roles.
I doubt that story about a game where not 1 outside back touched the ball is true as no matter what weather conditions were there the backs would get plenty of ball due to ball kicked clear to them, teams backs moves etc
Comparing a club(by club i mean shannon, nenagh, monivea) to an intercounty GAA team is unfair and not a valid comparison as it is the top team of the very best players in a county compared to the top side in 1 club

06/10/2012 19:57:58
ffgg
just people i know who go to college there and know the area and that..rugby is the popular spectator sport due to having a top quality team whereas there is no interest in limerick soccer team for obvious reasons as its not exactly top quality sport...but to play the actual sport soccer is massive especially in the younger ages im told
Soccer is big enough esp at u8-u12 but rugby is still bigger. the amount of clubs and numbers playing rugby is v big in limerick and well bigger than soccer.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/10/2012 20:26:36    1279262

06/10/2012 20:11:51
BettystownRoyal
yes ormand but so is hurling and to an extent gaelic football on the southside.

1. its ormond
2. rugby is increasing overall across the country much more

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/10/2012 20:28:23    1279263