Do u think Cork men should prioritise hurling over football culchie?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8167 - 02/10/2012 15:31:10    1276519

I would certainly prefer it if they prioritised hurling over football Liam. But whether they should or shouldn't, I can't really say. That's a matter for themselves. They should do whatever keeps them happy.

Culchie (Cork) - Posts: 799 - 02/10/2012 15:47:40    1276549

Cant ask for fairer than that culchie
Appreciate the honesty
Fair play

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8167 - 02/10/2012 16:06:48    1276572

if_in_doubt
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if he preferred rugby for sporting reasons fine but i seriously doubt if he wasnt offered money to play it he would still be playing for cork and his club

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/10/2012 17:39:20    1276660

ffgg
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hill wants all pro sports banned in ireland it seems...if you play them your a sell out

no i want to see the gaa hold onto its best young players and i want to see guys play sport for which they prefer not which offers you money is that unreasonable

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/10/2012 17:40:34    1276662

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yes but my problem is all this back slapping from guys involved with gaa and media and pundits alike saying fair play to them its great for them to go its like they think the gaa is below these sports and should know its place as a second rate sport and can only have athletes not good enough to play sports you get paid to play and this attitude is wrong in my book

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/10/2012 17:43:37    1276666

hill16no1man
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if he preferred rugby for sporting reasons fine but i seriously doubt if he wasnt offered money to play it he would still be playing for cork and his club

What exactly are you basing this on?

What makes you doubt the fact that if he wasn't offered money he would still be playing hurling?

Aside from your contempt at a young lad choosing another sport over the GAA, what evidence do you have to suggest that Sweetnam and Kilkenny are only motivated by money?

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 02/10/2012 17:46:50    1276672

Dont care what he chooses but I find it interesting these rugby announcements always seem to be released just after the All Ireland series is completed. There was Brian Cullen last year and now this Cork lad.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 02/10/2012 18:39:53    1276733

no i want to see the gaa hold onto its best young players and i want to see guys play sport for which they prefer not which offers you money is that unreasonable

Not unreasonable at all Hill, however the only way this is possible is if the GAA offers money to players. Would this be something you support? you certainly wouldn't be alone if you did. You have mentioned these gifted young sportsmen could get a job through the GAA and still play around their jobs. But surely playing sport as your job is far more appealing to them than this. Professional rugby is still in its infancy in Ireland , as it continues to grow the GAA will see the elite young sportsmen choosing rugby (and AFL)

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4655 - 02/10/2012 18:58:16    1276747

but how do you know they are picking those sports for money?....you cant make the judgement unless you know them personally so you are being very unreasonable yes due to the sheer contempt of these people you are showing

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 02/10/2012 19:13:50    1276759

Fairplay to young Sweetnam, he's doing something now which could potentially put food on the table, something that playing hurling will never do. I love our national games but no rational person can honestly slate any young man or woman for trying to make a decent living for themselves and if that means moving on from the Gaa then so be it, we should respect their decision.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 02/10/2012 19:15:02    1276762

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no i want to see the gaa hold onto its best young players and i want to see guys play sport for which they prefer not which offers you money is that unreasonable

Not unreasonable at all Hill, however the only way this is possible is if the GAA offers money to players. Would this be something you support? you certainly wouldn't be alone if you did. You have mentioned these gifted young sportsmen could get a job through the GAA and still play around their jobs. But surely playing sport as your job is far more appealing to them than this. Professional rugby is still in its infancy in Ireland , as it continues to grow the GAA will see the elite young sportsmen choosing rugby (and AFL)

i wouldnt support paying players just for playing however what i would suggest is that a good idea would be to give them full time coaching jobs in clubs and schools,this would be a win win all round as they would be working within the gaa and have as much time to train inter county wise which would almost be very simliar to a professional sport except it would keep the same ethos that exists of not having players transferring to other countys for bigger money or having an open transfer system which i feel would come in if the gaa went with directly paying players like other sports

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/10/2012 20:51:14    1276847

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Fairplay to young Sweetnam, he's doing something now which could potentially put food on the table, something that playing hurling will never do. I love our national games but no rational person can honestly slate any young man or woman for trying to make a decent living for themselves and if that means moving on from the Gaa then so be it, we should respect their decision.

so the gaa is something you belong to if your not good enough to play another sport ?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/10/2012 20:54:43    1276850

i dont know how you make that out for htaems comment?..seems hes just saying you cant make a living playing gaa which you can in professional sport?..where is the part about not being good enough?

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 02/10/2012 20:58:24    1276855

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i dont know how you make that out for htaems comment?..seems hes just saying you cant make a living playing gaa which you can in professional sport?..where is the part about not being good enough?

your becoming like gigoer following me from thread to thread and reliying to any of my posts looking to argue!!
i got it becuase i feel he thinks gaa is just a past time and nobody with real talent would be playing gaa ahead of other sports becuase they get paid to play other sports.
as for your last comment its obvious kilkenny went for money simply becuase he never played aussie rules he grew up playing gaa and worked his way up to make it onto the dublin senior team so why would he suddenly change his mind and go play a completly new sport ?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/10/2012 21:10:34    1276866

02/10/2012 21:10:34
hill16no1man
your becoming like gigoer following me from thread to thread and reliying to any of my posts looking to argue!!
i got it becuase i feel he thinks gaa is just a past time and nobody with real talent would be playing gaa ahead of other sports becuase they get paid to play other sports.
as for your last comment its obvious kilkenny went for money simply becuase he never played aussie rules he grew up playing gaa and worked his way up to make it onto the dublin senior team so why would he suddenly change his mind and go play a completly new sport ?

Hill no need for the silly first sentence
How is it obvious that kilkenny went for money???
Kilkenny went to play a sport that shares many caracteristics with his original sport. He may have went to go play a different sport so he could try out the professional environment where the sport and training and playing is the main aim and how he doesnt have to go to college/work for 7-8 hours a day and then train.
Your 2nd sentence(gaa is a pasttime..nobody with real talent etc) is ridiculous and cant really be used in relation to any player unless you know them personally and know their personal view on the issue at hand

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 02/10/2012 21:36:15    1276884

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02/10/2012 21:10:34
hill16no1man
your becoming like gigoer following me from thread to thread and reliying to any of my posts looking to argue!!
i got it becuase i feel he thinks gaa is just a past time and nobody with real talent would be playing gaa ahead of other sports becuase they get paid to play other sports.
as for your last comment its obvious kilkenny went for money simply becuase he never played aussie rules he grew up playing gaa and worked his way up to make it onto the dublin senior team so why would he suddenly change his mind and go play a completly new sport ?

Hill no need for the silly first sentence
How is it obvious that kilkenny went for money???
Kilkenny went to play a sport that shares many caracteristics with his original sport. He may have went to go play a different sport so he could try out the professional environment where the sport and training and playing is the main aim and how he doesnt have to go to college/work for 7-8 hours a day and then train.
Your 2nd sentence(gaa is a pasttime..nobody with real talent etc) is ridiculous and cant really be used in relation to any player unless you know them personally and know their personal view on the issue at hand

dublin are as fit as any pro sport team in ireland or britain so using this pro ennviornment malarky dont cut it.
sport is not about money and the whole argument of so he doesnt have to work is lame the gaa has been going for over 125 years now and everybody who plays the game knows you dont get paid and you go out and work we have had many talented players with dublin who were not lured by other sports they chose to play it so its not like its only a new thing.sport is not about money and should be played becuase you enjoy playing it.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/10/2012 21:50:23    1276900

ormond

there is every need for my first sentence as every time i post on a thread he responds to my original post with an arguement

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/10/2012 21:52:09    1276902

hill16no1man
ormond
there is every need for my first sentence as every time i post on a thread he responds to my original post with an arguement
There still isnt a need for the first sentence as it implys you are backseat modding and there is nothing wrong with continuing the discussion

hill16no1man
dublin are as fit as any pro sport team in ireland or britain so using this pro ennviornment malarky dont cut it.
sport is not about money and the whole argument of so he doesnt have to work is lame the gaa has been going for over 125 years now and everybody who plays the game knows you dont get paid and you go out and work we have had many talented players with dublin who were not lured by other sports they chose to play it so its not like its only a new thing.sport is not about money and should be played becuase you enjoy playing it.
Sport isnt about money and while dublin may be very fit they are not as fit as any pro sport team
Yes you are right that sport should be played to be enjoyed but if you can get paid to play and train and totally enjoy a sport and not have to worry about fitting in your training in between a work shift should you not be happy for them

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 02/10/2012 22:01:40    1276910

I see as part of his contract he is banned from playing hurling. The only association that continues a ban for playing other sports.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 03/10/2012 09:29:41    1276939