32 agree completely

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 22/09/2012 12:48:49    1270623

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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pidge

how can you measure the differance in a skill in one sport to the skill in another sport,every sport has neccesary skills in order to play it so i cannot see how people say one sport is more skillfull like does this mean the handpass in hurling is more skillfull then the handpass in football ? is it harder to kick a point from 40 yards with the boot or take a point from 40 yards with a hurl how do you compare these things?

true...but what im really trying to say is this...lets take someone like leo messi...we kick a ball straight at him what does he do...he will catch it 7 to 10 times out of 10..
we give the great man himself a hurley and hit a sliotar straight at him and i bet he will struggle to control it once...that to me is the beauty of hurling,first touch
thats what im really trying to say i suppose..
and your dead right, both sports are different and its basically like comparing the skills of golf to darts...you just cant

pidge (Cork) - Posts: 543 - 22/09/2012 12:59:09    1270627

Ok,have been reading discussions on this topic for the last few minutes.as someone who plays both codes at minor level and who supports both codes and will attend as much matches in each code as possible,here is my views.firstly,i much prefer hurling to watch and play but i still love football.reasons for this are due to physicality and skill.first touch,soaring up to get a ball in the air,superb flicks etc...beautiful to watch.football has many assets also but we just dont see enough high fielding,intricate moves kick passing and long distance score taking and too much fouling.now the argument that really annoys,hurlers lamp the ball down the pitch.unlike football,hurling is usually man to man and it is up to each player to win 50 :50 balls.therefore,you expect your forward to win a good percentage of balls.but if a hurler gets any time they will play a diagonal ball in to a forward making a run which should favour him although he will still have a battle.the times when an aimless ball is played is due to the unreal pressure put on someone.in hurling if a marker gets a chance,you will be hit a shoulder followed by hurl in and its very hard to get away from that unlike football where it is easier to skip away.the reason short passing etc is not prevalent in hurling is because if you dilly dally for one second you are likely to lose the ball,therefore you must let the ball go!hurling is far more ferocious to play in and i lovee it.you have to be fitter for football but everything else for hurling.i still love football.football has a far better competition and i pray in a few years we will have half as competitive hurling championship as football.now for some structured responses please :)

dubs4eva (Dublin) - Posts: 484 - 22/09/2012 13:15:21    1270629

royaldunne
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Of course hurling is better, it's played by more,it gets more through the gates, the TV audiences are always more for hurling, kids up and down country want to play it, i mean it's not like the gaa are saying we could have sold a quarter of million tickets for this Sunday,
Oh wait!!!!!


Says it all. Football is better. End of

square_ball_69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 826 - 22/09/2012 13:28:33    1270635

Nick

Totally disagree, football far better game in my opinion - no mindless whacking of balls up the field for a start. Don't know how u think hurling more physical than football, ask any duel player and they'll tell u.. A lot more body hits in footy.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 22/09/2012 13:30:19    1270636

pidge
County: Cork
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true...but what im really trying to say is this...lets take someone like leo messi...we kick a ball straight at him what does he do...he will catch it 7 to 10 times out of 10..
we give the great man himself a hurley and hit a sliotar straight at him and i bet he will struggle to control it once...that to me is the beauty of hurling,first touch
thats what im really trying to say i suppose..
and your dead right, both sports are different and its basically like comparing the skills of golf to darts...you just cant


pidge,
do you not think messi is familiar with a round ball and not with a hurl and sliothar, on that basis you could make the point ice hockey is more skillful, messi would catch a football but put him on an ice rink and he would struggle.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 22/09/2012 13:56:59    1270651

Only 12 teams are in the All Ireland Series....

Very few upsets.

Munster Championship is celebrated as FANTASTIC....yet most years the winners get annihilated against the Cats.

Predictable and boring

Dont know how people think its a better product than football

The argument is that football is similar-------- full compliment of teams playing in the AI series.....except KK....

Westmeath, Sligo, Laois, Roscommon etc have all broke through to win provencial titles unexpectedly. More unfancied teams have made those finals. Drama....

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 22/09/2012 15:50:02    1270692

22/09/2012 13:56:59
AthCliath
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1270651 pidge
County: Cork
Posts: 457

true...but what im really trying to say is this...lets take someone like leo messi...we kick a ball straight at him what does he do...he will catch it 7 to 10 times out of 10..
we give the great man himself a hurley and hit a sliotar straight at him and i bet he will struggle to control it once...that to me is the beauty of hurling,first touch
thats what im really trying to say i suppose..
and your dead right, both sports are different and its basically like comparing the skills of golf to darts...you just cant


pidge,
do you not think messi is familiar with a round ball and not with a hurl and sliothar, on that basis you could make the point ice hockey is more skillful, messi would catch a football but put him on an ice rink and he would struggle.

What a ridiculous statement. How could you possibly think Messi, all 5'7 of him, could sudddenly possess handling skills that take years to perfect?

square_ball_69 (Westmeath) - Posts: 826 - 22/09/2012 17:09:02    1270733

I've watched and played a lot of different sports down through the years. Hurling was the game that I played most as a young lad but purely from a spectator's point of view football is a bigger draw for me and when you consider viewing figures and participation levels the same must be true for most people.

Hurling's very fast and high scoring, yes but so is football and watching championship games is fascinating because there's much more going on in build-up play - how do teams create scores, how do they defend? Jim Gavin made the point recently that from a tactical point of view gaelic football is a fascinating game and he's dead right. We have a very pacey, physical and tactical game of football that's much faster and higher scoring than soccer, rugby union or league, AFL, NFL... any of them.

Ollie99 (Meath) - Posts: 442 - 22/09/2012 17:29:37    1270743

McMaster

At least read what I wrote and what you misquoted:
I said...
This humping it is a bit of cliche really - believe it or not even 12 year olds can hit (on the run) a 40 yard cross field pass, and perish the thought, but so can the fairer sex.
You replied.....
Any 40 yard ball into the air to a marked man who isnt noticeably better in the air than his man is a 50/50, end of story.

This is your embellishement...." to a marked man who isnt noticeably better in the air than his man is a 50/50, end of story." where the hell did I say that? All hurlers - and especially backs don't have the time when closely marked to do much else. I could repeat the above to again but whats the point you've clearly never been to a hurling match.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 22/09/2012 18:24:32    1270768

Hurling is easily the better product. It is aesthetically better, a faster game, more skillful, harder to master.
JayP a lot of what you say is rubbish. There isnt that many upsets but there isnt a huge huge number of upsets in football. Just because more teams play doesnt make football better
Hurling is much harder to master. Tricky for somebody to come to ireland at 16/17 to play at a high level in g football, nigh on impossible to do tha in hurling. Hurling is easily the better product. If you were choosing 1 of the 2 sports to export worldwide you would always choose hurling as its completely different to nearly all other field sports while gaelic football shares many characteristics with a multitude of sports

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 22/09/2012 19:37:46    1270790

Nonsense as usual, imagine if the debate was broadened out to include the (non) sport Rugger. Thanks be to God we dont have shushing or the Fields of Athenry in our games!

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 22/09/2012 19:50:12    1270795

Played both to a pretty decent standard , would have to say hurling is better both to play and to watch. Something beautiful about hurling that football just can not compete with IMO. The sport is so unique and distinctly Irish that I would agree with michael o muircheartaigh that the All-Ireland hurling final should be a national holiday

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 22/09/2012 19:56:07    1270801

22/09/2012 19:50:12
ochonlir
Nonsense as usual, imagine if the debate was broadened out to include the (non) sport Rugger. Thanks be to God we dont have shushing or the Fields of Athenry in our games!

Dont be ignorant. Fair enough for someone not to like some sport but to say its a non sport is arrogant, snobbish and wummery
As for your last sentence what rubbish. Why are you whinging about whats sung at games??

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 22/09/2012 20:18:01    1270817

"Totally disagree, football far better game in my opinion - no mindless whacking of balls up the field for a start. Don't know how u think hurling more physical than football, ask any duel player and they'll tell u.. A lot more body hits in footy."

Funny enough, there was a load of intercounty footballers on Twitter going on about how unbelievable the physicality of this year's Leinster hurling final was.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/09/2012 20:55:03    1270833

It's a pointless discussion really. I'm a real GAA man i.e. I support hurling & football (handball too). Unfortunately in Longford there is an anti-hurling element to Gaelic football people. They will all watch & admire the spectacle that is the All-Ireland hurling final alright but don't you attempt to introduce it into their club. Some sort insecurity or breed of ignorance, I presume.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/09/2012 21:01:01    1270838

1270838 It's a pointless discussion really. I'm a real GAA man i.e. I support hurling & football (handball too). Unfortunately in Longford there is an anti-hurling element to Gaelic football people. They will all watch & admire the spectacle that is the All-Ireland hurling final alright but don't you attempt to introduce it into their club. Some sort insecurity or breed of ignorance, I presume.

Think very good post, why does the answer have to be definitive, depending on who posts , i find myself arguing for both.total ignorance and never having played the game will make someone state that hurling is all about hitting the ball as far as you can and then getting a clap on the back for doing so. someone who is only hurling and dismissing the skills and tactics of football and saying anyone can catch a football and then kick it is also ignorant to the skills and excitement of football.
There is no yes or no answer to the question, but only people who have played both codes or to tell the truth have tried to coach both codes on same kids are in a position to say after seeing the feedback and results, which takes more time to master, which county you are in at the tme will also make a difference. in all honesty there opinion carries the most weight.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 23/09/2012 10:19:50    1270885

They are two completely different sports. I dont like football as much as hurling because I am from a hurling area.

This topic is pointless

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 23/09/2012 10:32:37    1270889

played both but hurling was always my first love by a country mile,you really have to work at hurling,mastering the skills gives huge satisfaction.At least i had the choice and oppottunity to play both codes,not like some countys that deny their youth the opportunity to play our one and only truely native gaelic game , hurling.

eastgael (Limerick) - Posts: 629 - 23/09/2012 16:23:05    1271076

32 4 1 and royal dunne, if your not one and the same, are talking complete manure!! Pathetitic and ignorant comments showing your total lack of knowledge of hurling,theres 8 yr olds in our club that know more than ye two!! And the hurling snobs comment, geta life!! We had 80 plus young lads, u6 to u12, training for hurling only last thurs evening,and they love it,hurling thriving and long may it continue!! Luimneach ABU

eastgael (Limerick) - Posts: 629 - 23/09/2012 16:33:19    1271090