Sorry, Mayo will continue to blame everyone but themselves*

ClassApart (Meath) - Posts: 1200 - 27/08/2012 17:25:01    1253330

Thanks again to the genuine mayo fans for their good wishes and as for those from other counties I hope the holidays are going well it makes it even sweeter.
Come on the royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/08/2012 18:14:39    1253394

Ok lets put it this way. Meath should have had the game won at half time but didn't. Mayo should have closed out the game when they went seven points up but didn't. Meath got the benefit of a few dodgy decisions, which usually go against them. Meath always accept these decisions which yesterday went for them. Next day they will probably have to accept decisions which go against them as they will be playing either Dublin or Kerry who usually get these dodgy decisions. Now I'm in trouble with the Dubs and the Kingdom but who cares. Guarantee you Andy Mac or the Meath team aren't loosing any sleep. We are in another final and that, regardless of the result, can only have a beneficial effect on Meath football, which God knows needs all the help it can get these days. If this results in a Meath team which can compete for Senior All Ireland glory in a few years won't the whole country be happy. Meath because they will be back where they should be and the "Anybody but Meath Brigade" will have something to further moan about, and this will make their day/year. Everyone are potential winners after this appalling decision. I think the Ref should be made a national hero.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 27/08/2012 18:27:18    1253402

TheMaster
Cunty: Mayo
That is the thing though, another day doesnt matter, yesterday is the only day that matters, and yesterday meath missed those chances

But here is the thing from that dodgy line ball decision we gave it back to you and then you gifted us with possession. Only yourselves to blame for even letting us near your goal. there is nothing you can do, we won, it's prob best to just forget about it and focus on your semi final.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 27/08/2012 20:23:46    1253527

Sometimes a "fighter" will beat a "boxer",and to some extent that is what happened in this game . Mayo played the better football in the latter part of first half and the first ten minutes if second half,and went SEVEN points up! Im sure all watching thought it was game over at that stage except for the young lads on the field!! and thats all you need to know about why this game turned out as it did. A fighter doesnt necessarily have to be able to box well but a good boxer must be able to fight when necessary. The pundits call it "HEART" and Meath just had more of it yesterday . Mayo are a decent team and played some lovely stuff but this is not figure skating and all that counts is the scoreboard at the end of time. Mayo sat back and waited for the win , but Meath didnt see it the same way , they never put their heads down and were rewarded at the end ..Maybe Lady luck likes a fighter more on some occasions, this maybe was one of those occasions. Perhaps it will be a reminder to the seniors not to let the same happen next Sunday. I wish Mayo luck and victory on Sunday

nemlodoak (Meath) - Posts: 170 - 27/08/2012 21:01:30    1253572

An Mhí were by far the better team on the day. They should have been well up at half time and in the second half Maigh Eo, after building up a big league, didn't score for about 20 minutes. Stop blaming the ref. Blame yourselves. The better team won on the day.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 28/08/2012 09:09:21    1253688

Culann
An Mhí were by far the better team on the day. They should have been well up at half time and in the second half Maigh Eo, after building up a big league, didn't score for about 20 minutes. Stop blaming the ref. Blame yourselves. The better team won on the day.

Nobody said they werent. People seem to think that the only reason anyone is finding fault is because they are sore about losing. This isnt the case. Can people not see that if it happened to mayo this week, and it is not acted upon, it could happen to themselves next week? It is not just a few 50-50 calls here. We are talking about a lack of basic understanding of the rules in the footblock incident, and total incompetence in the push incident. If we 'forget about it and move on' then it will happen again. Also Culann, there are as many neutrals on here saying they were cheated as there are mayo people, so 'blaming themselves' isnt really an option. The reality is it doesnt matter how deserving a team was or who was better. These are not acceptable reasons for the rules to be broken and that is the bottom line.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 28/08/2012 11:14:31    1253791

Culann
County: Dublin
Posts: 648

1253688 An Mhí were by far the better team on the day. They should have been well up at half time and in the second half Maigh Eo, after building up a big league, didn't score for about 20 minutes. Stop blaming the ref. Blame yourselves. The better team won on the day


Ridicilous post. It seems its ok for a ref to mess up when the better team win is it? Even if Mayo had have held out the ref still messed up.

Like how is that so difficult to comprehend?

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 28/08/2012 12:27:06    1253859

Ridicilous post. It seems its ok for a ref to mess up when the better team win is it? Even if Mayo had have held out the ref still messed up.

Like how is that so difficult to comprehend?
sedico , 28/08/2012 at 12:27

The referee made a few dodgy mistakes. Yes. But Mayo bottled it. Meath deserved their win regardless of refereeing mistakes. Your point is easy enough to comprehend and I agree its not ok for referees to mess up games but it happens and will always happen. Human error. The reason Mayo lost is because they didn't score for most of the second half. They bottled it. Nothing ridiculous about that.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 28/08/2012 12:41:15    1253872

it's simple . If it hadn't been for the ref and linesman Mayo would have won (regardless of who was the best team).
some of the most bizzare refereeing decisions I have ever seen in those last 5 minutes. (It was almost as if the officials wanted Meath to win).. it really was that blatant. The push over the sideline was 100% obvious right in front of the linesman and the ref. the footblock was frankly ridiculous and the ref should be taken to task over it as he obviously doesn't know the rules of the game. also in the build-up to the last goal there was a foul hand-pass and a touch on the ground.
but what can you expect sure aren't meath allowed to throw the ball into the net too.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 28/08/2012 13:00:31    1253897

sunday game - ciaran whelan really went to town on these 3 points, push, footblock & handpass.
and then went on to bring up the game again tyrone as one where meath got advantage near the end.
Great to see he hates the sight of meath...

Tara_Kings (Meath) - Posts: 128 - 28/08/2012 13:03:03    1253906

s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 1550


but what can you expect sure aren't meath allowed to throw the ball into the net too.

Small hint of begrudgery there I'm assuming. Its hard to disagree that the referee was absolutely horrendous and had the shoe been on the other foot, you'd probably be reading a lot of Meath people harping on about the same thing so it is understandable for the Mayo supporters. But in fairness it looked inevitable that Meath were going to score a couple of goals at some stage as the pressure Meath were piling on was going to tell. I know you can't excuse the footblock and the push etc. but as someone else said, you only have to look at the fact that Mayo failed to score for 25 minutes in the second half.

Anyway it seems that people aren't trying to make the point that Meath didn't deserve to win but that these refereeing decisions shouldn't be tolerated as these types of decisions are costing teams at senior level too. Human error seems to be the common trend of excuses for referees but ridiculous decisions are happening far too often in our modern game and consistency needs to be improved

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 790 - 28/08/2012 13:38:22    1253935

The game is over and no amount of giving out will change the result. The standard of refs across the country needs to be looked at. It isnt the refs fault, its croke park. Thinking they will get high quality refs without paying for it. Look at all the training all teams put in every year, they give up everything and still each year we have at least one team getting robbed on big days because of the standards of refs.

ballaghmen (Mayo) - Posts: 318 - 28/08/2012 13:38:49    1253936

It's simple if the ref had not made mistake meath still would have won. They were the team pushing and the chances would have came simple i love the way so many people go on about meath getting calls and ignore the hundreds that go against them ie geraghty goal v Kildare in Croke park,the the penalty that wasn't v Kildare In navan the taking out of keoghan v laois this year and i could go on all day with others. Facts are this is football and refs make mistakes from where i was on the day i and most of the Donegal people around me thought the penalty was a good call, with the benefit of TV replays and different angles slow motion etc it is obvious it was not. But the ref does not have such luxuries and must make a snap decision

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/08/2012 13:44:07    1253946

Culann
The referee made a few dodgy mistakes. Yes. But Mayo bottled it. Meath deserved their win regardless of refereeing mistakes. Your point is easy enough to comprehend and I agree its not ok for referees to mess up games but it happens and will always happen. Human error. The reason Mayo lost is because they didn't score for most of the second half. They bottled it. Nothing ridiculous about that.

Within the rule mayo didnt need to score in the second half because meath werent good enough to put their chances away. Poetic justice is not an excuse to break the rules.

Also royaldunne, meath couldnt buy a goal over the entire coarse of the game up to that point. Also the chances they did have in that last few minutes should have been a sideline ball and a free out. Where were they going to get the time to get two goals fairly?

As I have said from the start, I dont begrudge meath the win. The issue I have is with A) the officials not being brought to task over this for the good of the game B) People saying it was the mayo teams fault that they lost, when actually, poor as they were, they still done enough to win if the game had been officiated correctly

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 28/08/2012 16:05:20    1254102

royaldunne your absolutely right. Yes the afore mentioned decisions were wrong and on Sunday went against Mayo. Whether or not Meath would have won the game without them is open for debate, personally I think not. However we have lost many games because of decisions that went against us. Apart from the the taking out of Keoghan he was subsequently fouled which ultimately led to Gallagher's mess up and the penalty. After that Meath were chasing a lost cause. So what that game, same as Sunday's, is now part of the lore that is football history. Things go against you in a match and if you are good enough you will overcome them. Meath were not good enough on the day and Laois went through. Another day it might have been different.

I find that some of the Mayo posters are genuinely upset with this and other decisions going against them and I don't have a problem with that. However many of the other posters are being critical just because it is Meath who got the advantage out of these decisions, not because they have any great love for Mayo or indeed the rules of football. Maybe some of these posters would be better employed examining why their counties have done so poorly in their own Providential championships in the last forty, fifty or more years. Seriously hoping that Mayo will win on Sunday and set up the type of All Ireland that would be great for the game not that I wish the Dubs any ill luck. It they get to the final maybe we can rely on some support against either Dublin or Kerry in our final.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 28/08/2012 16:19:42    1254117

Master no matter what officials did or did not do it would have been a travesty if Meath had not won. We all say it time again , may the best team win. And that's exactly what happened, penalty aside we got another goal too.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/08/2012 16:24:21    1254125

I think this debate has been played out.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 28/08/2012 17:20:01    1254189

Ard ri I agree

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/08/2012 17:30:46    1254203

royaldunne
Master no matter what officials did or did not do it would have been a travesty if Meath had not won. We all say it time again , may the best team win. And that's exactly what happened, penalty aside we got another goal too.

Travesty maybe. But there is no rule against travesties in the GAA. There is rules against pushing, touching the ball on the ground and illegal handpasses however. I say again, poetic justice is not an excuse to break the rules.
Yes we do say may the best team win. We also say rules are rules. The rules state meath need scores to win the game, not near misses. Mayo were the best team in 96 (not that it is about this, it is just a relevent example for all involved), who won that game?
Finally, the other goal was touched on the ground and had an illegal handpass. Neither goal should have stood.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 28/08/2012 17:40:26    1254210