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51 yet again you fail to see the bigger picture, you would prefer to live in we were robbed world than the real world. 27 minutes without scoring was your fault not refs. Like 96 and 09 the better team won,mostly due to a inability on mayos part to take the opportunities that came their way. And until mayo start to look at that rather than looking to blame officials or opposing team this will continue, mayo lost yesterday cause they did not score for nearly half a hour,nothing to do with ref. Furthermore your assumption that their should have been a malee is to be honest disgusting these are all under 18a KIDS and you want them to beat the heads off each other. I am sure many if not most of your county men and women would find that point distasteful. Your comments are a embarrassment to your county

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/08/2012 14:11:40    1253034

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mayo going 27 minutes without scoring has nothing to do with the fact meath got some game changing decisions (all of which were wrong) from the referee.............the bottom line is meath won this game as a result of very poor refereeing decisions made against mayo ..............whether they were the better team or not is irrelevant..............all any team asked for is for a referee to be fair to them............one wrong call you'd put up with but when there are a number it's certainly fair i believe to raise the question about the referees impartiality...............mayo didn't need to score........they were ahead.........it was meath who need to score to get back into the game................so mayo not scoring for 27 minutes should not be used to take away from the fact that meath only got themselves back into the game as a result of some favourable calls from the match referee.............from what i seen i feel if mayo had equalised late on then the referee may well have found some other way of getting meath the win...........

Gammy_Knee (USA) - Posts: 1482 - 27/08/2012 14:40:37    1253077

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51longago

Quite pathetic and certainly not representative of the Mayo People I know.

The Master. Look, I agree with alot of what you say. Indeed Mayo don't seem to have much luck with refereeing decisions particularly on the big stage. However there's not one county or club who don't have a similar gripe with refereeing decisions that go against them. Certainly Meath have had their share of big decisions going against them and in fairness we have our fair share of whingers too when it happens. However successful players will always say that you make your own luck and although you dismiss my point about not scoring for 27 minutes I think it is crucial. The fact is that one or two more points at any-time in the second half would have killed off this game and Meath would probably have wilted as they did against Dublin, despite all the hype about never say die attitude. If the ref had given the free then Meath would not have gotten a penalty. If they haven't scored the penalty they probably wouldn't have made the attack that resulted in the second goal. These things are a given. However it's not the first time you or I saw wrong decisions happen in either club or county games which had a crucial impact on the game, and it won't be the last. While I'm not trying to dismiss your disappointment, I none-the-less would say that it's the morning after and the World is still moving round the Sun as it always has and always will. Well in our time anyway. If Mayo had won yesterday I would have been supporting them in the final. I hope Mayo win next Sunday but will be genuinely neutral in the final if that happens because it will be a marvellous thing for football if we could see Mayo against Donegal in a final.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 27/08/2012 14:44:13    1253084

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gammy it's made my day that this result has sickened you. we all know your from a county that is jealous of meath even when were not winning. have a good day and enjoy seeing us lose in the minor final. we are in bonus territory.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 27/08/2012 14:50:29    1253096

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When you get a referee at that level, who doesn't know the difference between a 'footblock', and a lad blocking a ball with his foot or leg, then you are potentially going to be in serious trouble. That penalty was a disgraceful decision, and it cost Mayo the game, which is a very unfortunate scenario for any team.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4321 - 27/08/2012 14:52:14    1253101

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The ref was very poor yesterday. You have to feel for the Mayo lads. A hard way to loose. Mayo will feel hard done buy yet again. But you can't blame Meath this time so fair play to them, all the best in the final.

Why wasn't this match played next week with the Mayo Senior team playing Dublin. Seemed strange that the 2 teams were not put together for the Semis. Very unfair on the Mayo fans IMO….

Mancirish (UK) - Posts: 2200 - 27/08/2012 15:10:28    1253129

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1253101 When you get a referee at that level, who doesn't know the difference between a 'footblock', and a lad blocking a ball with his foot or leg, then you are potentially going to be in serious trouble. That penalty was a disgraceful decision, and it cost Mayo the game, which is a very unfortunate scenario for any team.

Agreed. And fans of that team are entitled to make their protestations known without being called whingers. I often seen games where the better team lost so thats not an argument. Mayo were shafted by the ref - pure and simple.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 27/08/2012 15:13:20    1253130

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Why wasn't this match played next week with the Mayo Senior team playing Dublin. Seemed strange that the 2 teams were not put together for the Semis. Very unfair on the Mayo fans IMO….


Dublin minors playing next week.

Both Dublin seniors and minors won the Leinster Championship, that's why they're on the same day.

If the Mayo minors had won the Connacht Championship (and their subsequent Quarter-Final) then they would of been playing before their senior team next Sunday.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 27/08/2012 15:31:06    1253154

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Some ridiculous points being made here.

51longago How were you robbed in 09? Regardless of that sideline Meath were the better team and would have gone on to win anyway whether it was allowed or not.


TheMaster If Donegal were the better team in final and lost by 2 controversial goals aye? You see that has no relevance because Mayo were simply not the better team yesterday. Meath were the better more determined team and after 5 minutes of the second half , absolutely ate the Mayo midfield and forward line and even alot of their back line alive for the rest of the game. True it came down to refereeing decisions and they were both incorrect decisions... however the better team did win. So many times the better team has lost because of decisions (louth 2010) and ok fair enough but can you not see the better team yesterday were Meath Mayo just reverted into a shell and were utterly dominated second half. Ref cost Mayo but the better side is ultimately in the final.

Juggernaut (USA) - Posts: 110 - 27/08/2012 15:32:08    1253155

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Unfortunate refffing towards the end but the better team by a long way on the day won. Congrats Meath

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 27/08/2012 15:39:25    1253168

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it's simply not good enough at any time to have a referee make such blatant wrong decisions......... but to do so in an all ireland semi final should be of real concern.................the gaa are sitting on their hands........you'll find they'll be the first ones to tell you that referees are human and they make mistakes yet they have the power and the wherewithal to correct these mistakes if and when they happen..... but alas they sit back and do nothing............players, managers and supporters of inter county teams in particular deserve better than they are getting...........the gaa can make changes that would ensure situations like yesterdays are corrected at the time............but they have failed and refused to make those changes.............they're dinosaurs the whole friggen lot of them.

Gammy_Knee (USA) - Posts: 1482 - 27/08/2012 15:40:38    1253170

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people using the point about what if cork had gotten two goals at the end yesterday with help from the ref to win it doesnt make sense at all. donegal dominated the game yesterday and DESERVED to win. meath also dominated the game and had the ball in mayos half of the field for about 20 minutes at the end. anytime mayo seemed to get the ball they were being turned over by a meath player or they would kick it to a meath player. Someone else said no one could say mayo choked yesterday? yeah you actually could say they choked. They were 7 points up at the start of the second half and then they failed to score when they should have been finishing off the game.

I actually like mayo and i dont have a problem with them, i hope they beat dublin and id love to see them win the all ireland but this whinging and saying that even though meath were the better team it doesnt matter? if it was the other way around and mayo had dominated and we won by just them decisions from the ref with the two goals, i would be the first person to say we didnt deserve to win and if mayo had been the better team yesterday i can guarantee EVERYONE would be saying that mayo were better and not saying it doesnt matter who the better team was.

meathalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 27/08/2012 15:40:47    1253171

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"Mod" thanks for a reasonable post. Can understand the disappointment of Mayo fans even if some of their posts are not completely balanced. However some of the comments from posters from other counties smacks of a deep rooted anti Meath bias. I had thought that this nonsense had long since past. However I learn once again that some people will never get over the anti Meath thing. I would hate to go around with such a large chip on my shoulder. The "Anybody but Meath Brigade" are alive and well and if all goes well for them they will have a repeat of the Leinster final. However you just never know.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 27/08/2012 15:49:44    1253184

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if meath were the better team how did they allow mayo to go 7 points clear of them ?.............also why did it take a wrong penalty call and a scrappy foul ridden goal for them to get their noses in front ?..............they'd never have won if it wasn't for the referees help.............the best team don't normally need the referee playing with them for them to win.....

Gammy_Knee (USA) - Posts: 1482 - 27/08/2012 16:04:11    1253209

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because we missed three goal chances that on another day wouldve gone in, we had most of the possession and even the commentators at half time said we shouldve been about 4 points in front at half time. the better team wouldnt just not score for 25 minutes when they were in a very good position to win so mayo were not the better team if thats what your trying to say. i dont know what your problem is with meath but seriously do ya not get tired giving out about meath all the time? whatever county your from( some people say louth i actually think your from mayo) but whichever it is, would you not just focuse on them instead of going on about how meath are such a bad team.

meathalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 27/08/2012 16:25:11    1253232

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Lads, why does the fact meath were the better team excuse awful decisions by the ref? There is no correlation between being the better team and getting lucky with some terrible decisions. Can people not see that it could just as easily have been bad decisions against meath as for them, and hence the better team would be knocked out because of it as opposed to win because of it. It was pure chance that poor decisions were in meath's favour and had nothing to do with their ability or superiority. The reality is it doesnt matter if meath were the better team or not, what matters is scores on the board, and meath, for all their superiority in open play would have lost the game. Now I agree they would have left it behind them, but that does happen from time to time. You see teams dominate and not take their scores, only to be piped at the post. There is nothing wrong with that, and furthermore it doesnt justify a 6 point swing that should never have been given.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 27/08/2012 16:31:37    1253242

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Wow Gammy Knee your hatred of Meath is unbelievable. Mayo will continue to blame everyone but the ref. The sides were level at the 59th minute and a Mayo player gets the ball and balloons it wide from distance instead of working it in closer. That wasn't the refs fault. Have to say though there is always controversy when Meath are involved. But we love the be hated. I'd say the lads would be dying to get another crack at Dublin. There is still a lot for us to work on.

ClassApart (Meath) - Posts: 1200 - 27/08/2012 16:35:23    1253245

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thanks for that mod. best of luck in your senior semi against dublin.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 27/08/2012 16:46:05    1253263

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meathalltheway
because we missed three goal chances that on another day wouldve gone in, we had most of the possession and even the commentators at half time said we shouldve been about 4 points in front at half time.


That is the thing though, another day doesnt matter, yesterday is the only day that matters, and yesterday meath missed those chances. On another day cork might have gotten their tactics right and beat donegal comfortably, on another day declan o'sullivan wouldnt have passed the ball to a dub in last years al ireland final to gift them that goal, but that wasnt the case on the day that mattered. You play the game on the day, and on the day, within the rules, meath threw away a game they should have won, but terribly incompetent officiating let them off the hook. This is the point.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 27/08/2012 16:49:12    1253268

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Meath won the match, time for Mayo fans to get over it. Mayo minors were a poor team this year and would of been beat in the final anyways. The ref was very poor and should never ref a big match again. Not Meath's fault about the ref though. Mayo should of had the game won long before.

ballaghmen (Mayo) - Posts: 318 - 27/08/2012 16:53:50    1253277

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