Can't believe some of the criticism being levelled at the Dublin supporters. They were as brilliant as always on Sunday. Even the at the league games down in mayo you can have a good laugh with them. Nothing in the gaa rivals the roar of the hill and that was a real test for Cillian O'Connor who showed great bottle for such a young lad.

Dublin will be back next year hungry as ever. Mdma and Flynn were brilliant yesterday and a joy to watch. B Brogan had a slight off day but he would make any county team in the country. I'm not sure if any county manager would ever risk taking him off because he has the ability to really turn a game. 6 points even from frees is a good return. But his goal chance, sure he could have put it away but the save from clarke was special. And nothing should ever take that away from Clarke either.


Neither mayo or Dublin fans can be critical of the ref yesterday. Personally I'm not a fan of the cynical fouling as we've had to utilise it in 2 games now that we really should have won out without it. I know what it's like from the other side as Tyrone did it to us in 2008. But as Tony Davis said, you've gotta do what's good for the team.


Anyway hard luck to the dubs, it was a truly brilliant fight back.
Up Mayo.

TylerDurden (Mayo) - Posts: 155 - 04/09/2012 19:21:43    1259349

Tyler , Nice post

I think GAA fans are brilliant for the most part anyway. The rivalry is there for 70 minutes but after the game and before the game we can all drink in the same bars , sing each others songs (For example Dubs singing the green and red of mayo and Mayo singing Dublin in the rare oul times and Molly Malone) , Its what its all about , On All Ireland final day Mayo and Donegal fans will get on no matter what the outcome .. thats great and its what these games are special for .. the people involved , Like that two ye get gobsh*tes from everywhere but sure you cant let the minority outshine the majority, Thats not right.

Looking through the posts from so many of my own over the last two days make me proud , Nobody is making any kind of a big deal over the whole Mayo subs thing. Yeh sure its debateable, but 90% of Dubs here are just letting it go and making no big deal of it , Just getting on with it knowing the better team are in the final and deservedly so , On the other side of that coin the Mayo fellas haven't been kicking us when we where down. Its great to see , I remember after the Mayo game in 06 there was murder on here between everyone .. likewise in 09 people where dying to kick dublin when they wer down after the Kerry game , It just shows me that peoples opinions on us have changed. Its nice to see now that not all Dubs are tarred with the same brush , Well not after the Mayo game anyway

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13655 - 04/09/2012 21:09:33    1259429

Good article by darach O'Se in the Times today
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0905/1224323612500.html


- reflects what i thought, that McQuillan gave Mayo almost everything going and let them away with murder on the time wasting. You can bet your house that Maurice Deegan will not fall for the same tricks in the final.

fingalman (Dublin) - Posts: 233 - 05/09/2012 08:57:33    1259503

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1259503 Good article by darach O'Se in the Times today
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0905/1224323612500.html


- reflects what i thought, that McQuillan gave Mayo almost everything going and let them away with murder on the time wasting. You can bet your house that Maurice Deegan will not fall for the same tricks in the final.


Pity yourself and clondalkindud don't move on. You'r still drying your eyes why the other fella is pretending not to care while really being sick as a parrott. Don't feel a bit sorry for the likes of ye. Its only the genuine Dubs that derserve credit for acting dignified in defeat.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 05/09/2012 09:17:11    1259512

Couldn't understand how Dublin were made so hot favourites last Sunday ! Based on what did the Dublin(national) media hype up their team. Dublin were lucky to win the A.I. last year. A fading Kerry team were far better all over the field until the last few minutes. And what has Dublin done since ? Anybody looking objectively at the Dublin team knows that taking the Brogan Bros out, the rest is a very ordinary bunch. So how could they have been made such hot favourites against Mayo ? And even our three "experts" on RTE swallowed the hype ! To me it looks more like prejudice against the west. All that's missing now is Galway to beat Kilkenny (again!) and maybe then we might get some respect !!!!

nevergivein (Roscommon) - Posts: 115 - 05/09/2012 09:56:40    1259535

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County: Roscommon
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1259535
Couldn't understand how Dublin were made so hot favourites last Sunday ! Based on what did the Dublin(national) media hype up their team. Dublin were lucky to win the A.I. last year. A fading Kerry team were far better all over the field until the last few minutes. And what has Dublin done since ? Anybody looking objectively at the Dublin team knows that taking the Brogan Bros out, the rest is a very ordinary bunch. So how could they have been made such hot favourites against Mayo ? And even our three "experts" on RTE swallowed the hype ! To me it looks more like prejudice against the west. All that's missing now is Galway to beat Kilkenny (again!) and maybe then we might get some respect !!!!

get over yourself pal,nobody made dublin hot favs and you say the national media is dublin just look at what countys the guys are from who write columns in these papers hardly any from dublin you will find.had kerry won i guarantee you they wouldnt have been classed fading they would have been praised as one of the best teams ,how were we bet all over the field we were on top for the majority of the final we were ahead at half time and full time.
again lazy analysis take the brogans out and dublin are no good well it wasnt either of them that led the fightback on sunday mccauley and flynn were clearly the ones to the fore it was only when alan went off and mcmannoman and o gara added the firepower,also it was mcmannoman and cluxton got the vital scores to win the all ireland last year.yes everybody hates the west for what reason? get back in your box

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/09/2012 10:03:45    1259540

nevergivein, are Roscommon, Leitrim and Sligo gonna do an Ulster on it now and start claiming potential victories for Galway and Mayo as victories for the entire province :)
Gas!!!
Only a few weeks ago we have lots of your neighbours in here telling us what a horrible shower Roscommon fans are remember!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 05/09/2012 10:05:36    1259542

Aye great post Tyler...Mayo are cynical because Tyrone taught them how to do it in 2008. Big bad tronies,...enjoy your win don't start pointing the finger at Tyrone 2008. Mayo won on Sunday because they were te better side, Tyrone won the AI in 2008 because they were the best team in the country at that time.
If we are going to start pointing the finger at cynical play inflicted on Tyrone there will be a litany.

As for Sunday great game, thought for a while I was watching an Ulster championship game with the cheek by jowl, no quarter given, in your face intensity...and the proliferation of nasty mean spirited off the ball incidents of course.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 05/09/2012 10:16:51    1259548

Sadico I've moved on pal. Every Mayo poster will back me on that . I've said the better team won and am supporting them in the final and I would love to see them win it out they deserve it more than any other county. Show me one post where I haven't moved on please??

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 05/09/2012 10:17:23    1259550

Course I'm sick, I said that in my very first post after the match . Every Dublin supporter is sick but I'm very genuine in my praise to Mayo and I wish them all the luck. If Kildare bet us I would be the exact same way. I always congratulate a team when they beat Dublin. I play Gaelic football for round towers clondalkin I'm a gaa man everything I say wether you agree with it or not is what I think.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 05/09/2012 10:36:58    1259578

My voice has only returned today so I thought my keyboard fingers might aswell too. I'm sick as a dog of course that we lost after going so long in the All Ireland without tasting the bitter pill of defeat going down my throat like a sod of turf. Have no complaints we got what we deserved nothing for the way we played this year but the future is bright and foundations have been set solid in Dublin underage.

The hype, cynical fouling, Gilroy, Mayo's Fighting Spirit none of these factors matter bar the main one the scoreboard we were beat. The one thing I don't like in the aftermath of the defeat is people pointing fingers; fans in the pub, former Dublin players in column inches and a very few on here for example the critism at Pat he is human afterall, the man has worked hard for Dublin Gaa and should be commended. Bernard is but one man and many a day he has won games for us on his own and then some people are lambasting afew sponsorship deals he has on the go for distracting him utter rubbish.

The one thing in the years to come I'll remember Gilroy for is the touch of class he brought back to the Dublin senior team, he got rid of the sideshows and cockyness and this in turn has infected most of Dublin's fans who deal with defeat alot better than days of previous Dublin management these people serve as role models to grown men and women aswell as kids and the lads have done a great job. Good luck to all in the final.

Bluewave (Dublin) - Posts: 552 - 05/09/2012 11:20:35    1259636

Very well said Bluewave..take a bow

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 05/09/2012 11:26:42    1259643

bluewave

while gilroy has done great it doesnt mean he is abject to criticism at the same time,in reviewing the game its fair to say he made the wrong calls.
the warning signs had been there all summer that 3 midfielders wasnt working and he persisted with it until we went 10 points down and brought mccauley into centre field changed from defence to attack by bringing o gara and kev mac in to the forward line and we in turn outscored them 9v2 for the remainder of the match.
so while he has done a great job in landing an all ireland and 3 leinster titles i do believe he got his gameplan wrong last sunday

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/09/2012 11:37:26    1259659

Sedica

Of course I am sick and disappointed but that doesn't change the facts that McQuillan did us no favours at all last Sunday. I do not blame Mayo one bit for the cynical time wasting tactics they employed - i blame McQuillan for not taking any action.
I wish Mayo all the best in the final but i think Donegal will win (and would have predicted the same if Dublin had managed to stumble to the final).

Anyway I think Dublin, Mayo, Cork, Kerry, Donegal and maybe Tyrone will be the main contenders for SAM over the next couple of years.
With little or no chance of your boys getting near the top table - you will be doing well to hold on to your Div 1 status next year.

fingalman (Dublin) - Posts: 233 - 05/09/2012 12:28:19    1259716

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Don't get me wrong here I was not criticising Tyrone. They won the all-ireland that year because they were the best team in the country is an undisputed fact. I am a big fan of Tyrone football and delighted that they and Armagh came on in leaps and bounds to break tradition.

What i was referring to was that I have seen first hand how 'tactical' fouling closed out a game against us. And now for once (well twice technically) I have seen what it's like from the other side. Mayo have always been labelled as too nice and now they seem to want to get rid of that tag.
However it doesn't mean I'm fan of it and that is not a criticism just labelled at big bad tyronies - the Tyrone game was just an example I used and not about pointing the finger at a specific team.

TylerDurden (Mayo) - Posts: 155 - 05/09/2012 12:34:24    1259724

fingalman
County: Dublin
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Sedica

Of course I am sick and disappointed but that doesn't change the facts that McQuillan did us no favours at all last Sunday. I do not blame Mayo one bit for the cynical time wasting tactics they employed - i blame McQuillan for not taking any action.
I wish Mayo all the best in the final but i think Donegal will win (and would have predicted the same if Dublin had managed to stumble to the final).

Anyway I think Dublin, Mayo, Cork, Kerry, Donegal and maybe Tyrone will be the main contenders for SAM over the next couple of years.
With little or no chance of your boys getting near the top table - you will be doing well to hold on to your Div 1 status next year.

Why would, or indeed why should McQuillan have done Dublin any favours on Sunday.

He's a ref, he's meant to be impartial, all he can do is apply the rules as he sees fit.

Mayo did what they needed to win, any team in a similar situation would have done the same. People have criticised teams like Mayo in the past for being too nice and not being cute enough to win, but now when they stop being nice and foul players they are accused of cheating. Even looking back at when we played Limerick in Portlaois earlier this Summer some of the analysts were saying afterwards that the Limerick players should been smarter and fouled Kildare players further out the field instead of letting them work the ball up.

It's a no win situation for a team to be in, foul and you'll be accused of cheating, don't foul and people will say you're too nice and tell you you should have fouled.

Yes he could have been a bit stricter towards the end of the game with Mayo players going down timewasting (think he booked their keeper for this over a kickout?), but he could just as easily have given Mayo one or two other decisions over the course the game, O'Carroll could and possibly should have been sent off, and lets be honest one of those 45's that Cluxton kicked late on should initially have been given as a wide (no sign of a replay on the big screen was there?).

If the ref is bad, he's bad for both teams, simple as.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 05/09/2012 12:44:22    1259736

fingalman
County: Dublin
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1259716 Sedica

Of course I am sick and disappointed but that doesn't change the facts that McQuillan did us no favours at all last Sunday. I do not blame Mayo one bit for the cynical time wasting tactics they employed - i blame McQuillan for not taking any action.
I wish Mayo all the best in the final but i think Donegal will win (and would have predicted the same if Dublin had managed to stumble to the final).

Anyway I think Dublin, Mayo, Cork, Kerry, Donegal and maybe Tyrone will be the main contenders for SAM over the next couple of years.
With little or no chance of your boys getting near the top table - you will be doing well to hold on to your Div 1 status next year.


So you prefer to have a whinge at the ref than address where your teams faults? Yea very magnanimous of you.

And lets be honest now. You threw in the last paragraph simply to have a cut off us just because I happen to be from Kildare. Kildare have nothing at all to do with the title of the thread.

Very mature altogether. You'll have to learn to take your beating and not throw your toys out of the pram because someone dare put it up to the Dubs.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 05/09/2012 13:02:00    1259764

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you forgot to mention that he missed a very clear doublehop that mayo kicked a point from and a kickout that fennell won and was tripped he gave afree the other way which they scored from

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/09/2012 13:03:35    1259769

Agree with that Tyler - we used to get the same thrown at us particlaurly from '95/'96.
If Mayo make the break through and become winners you're going to get used to all sorts getting lobbed at you..football fans are the most miopic when they look at their team and are first in the queue for condemning others when they lose.

Good luck with your ticket search these two counties probably more than most have an enormous diaspora who will all want to be there with real confidence they could be there for a win. I'm expecting the maddest of years to try to land tickets.

Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 05/09/2012 13:09:27    1259779

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you forgot to mention that he missed a very clear doublehop that mayo kicked a point from and a kickout that fennell won and was tripped he gave afree the other way which they scored from

Sorry didn't think I had to mention every mistake or incidence in play he missed.

Can't remember the Fennell one offhand but for the double hop didn't he have his back turned on play? I'd say that's more of a sign of a bad ref, than it is a ref trying to favour one team over another, no ref should have his back to the ball at any stage of a game.

Dublin could well have been 6 points and a man down early in the second half, I'm sure Mayo would feel aggrieved about that and rightly so.

Like I said he got decisions wrong for both teams.

He could have done more for Dublin but just as easily he could have favoured Mayo if he so wished.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 05/09/2012 13:12:24    1259781