"The ground of my argument has not shifted at all. But yours most certainly have. I now see that not only have you conceded ground on the issue of biassed refereeing but now you are saying that All-Ireland quarter finals should be played in Croke Park. But what about Dublin's unfair advantage in that case?? I don't mind travelling anywhere to see Dublin playing but many, many teams love having the opportunity to come up and play in Croke Park. I don't think that venue carries any innate advantage for the Dubs. Perhaps its more convenient for the fans but that's about it."


Are you serious?

The unfair advantage? Everyone gets to play from the q/f stage at croker, so the unfair advantage diminishes as Dublin would be entering croke park at the same stage.

Bloody nora, you keep yakin on about how smart you are and how stupid i am, yet you can't even comprehend the basis of my argument.

The unfair home crowd argument only holds water up to q/f stage, it is not Dublins problem that they are the capital city, their advantage is theirs to keep thereafter.

They should not have croke park as their home ground , they should have to go to Mullingar/Longford/navan/Wex etc , on a home/away basis, just like Mayo have to go to Galway/Ross etc every other year.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 10/08/2012 18:15:52    1243035

Laois/Dublin game was one of the best games of this years championship , watched it again and it was a serious game of football , so intense

stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 10/08/2012 18:17:11    1243037

come on mayo (-4 points already) you wont get fair play in croker every honest gaa man outside the metropolitan knows for sure.

QuickMick (Laois) - Posts: 176 - 10/08/2012 18:17:39    1243038

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Certain posters just want Dublin out of Croke Park because it will in their eyes increase the chance of watching Dublin lose.


Bullseye.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 10/08/2012 18:21:00    1243039

So jimbo you admit if the dubs were not in croke park for lets face it all their games they would have more of a chance of losing,see thats what the gaa think too and that cant happen on a regular basis because they need the darlings to put bums on seats or in this case like sardines on the hill.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 10/08/2012 18:26:58    1243042

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come on mayo (-4 points already) you wont get fair play in croker every honest gaa man outside the metropolitan knows for sure.

No Mick. Every paranoid begrudger thinks that.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 21:54:36    1243204

51longo

you still keep away from the point i made
my point once again was did laois and dublin not both make subs before the last 45 was taken by cluxton ?
so if he is standing ating for players to come on an off how can you blame him for time wasting at the end of the match?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/08/2012 10:00:43    1243224

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That's a valid point cara, i don't actually have a problem with cluxton wasting time though as long as it's added on. I see what you're saying though in terms of the subs coming on when he was making his way to the 45, that said the referee still did not add on enough time.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 11/08/2012 12:31:36    1243280

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"The ground of my argument has not shifted at all. But yours most certainly have. I now see that not only have you conceded ground on the issue of biassed refereeing but now you are saying that All-Ireland quarter finals should be played in Croke Park. But what about Dublin's unfair advantage in that case?? I don't mind travelling anywhere to see Dublin playing but many, many teams love having the opportunity to come up and play in Croke Park. I don't think that venue carries any innate advantage for the Dubs. Perhaps its more convenient for the fans but that's about it."


Are you serious?

The unfair advantage? Everyone gets to play from the q/f stage at croker, so the unfair advantage diminishes as Dublin would be entering croke park at the same stage.

Bloody nora, you keep yakin on about how smart you are and how stupid i am, yet you can't even comprehend the basis of my argument.

The unfair home crowd argument only holds water up to q/f stage, it is not Dublins problem that they are the capital city, their advantage is theirs to keep thereafter.

They should not have croke park as their home ground , they should have to go to Mullingar/Longford/navan/Wex etc , on a home/away basis, just like Mayo have to go to Galway/Ross etc every other year.



Firstly, I think if you look back you'll find that I never, ever, said anything about me being smart. End of. I was responding to your continual insults and your frequent calling people stupid if they don't agree with you.
I agree with you regarding early rounds of Leinster Championship. I can see the logic of what you are saying. However, I believe the Leinster final ought to be played in Croke Park, regardless of whether Dublin are in it or not. The next biggest grounds in Leinster are O'Moore or Nowlan"odated, especially when the funds are re-circulated around the organization. aois an
The weakness of your argument is that referees become 'homers' and biassed towards Dublin. There is no evidence for that whatsoever. You agree that the ref was not corrupt. Regarding the extra time - he made an error, pure and simple. Look at the amount of frees he awarded Laois and compare it with Dublin. No evidence of bias there.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 11/08/2012 13:26:39    1243304

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That's a valid point cara, i don't actually have a problem with cluxton wasting time though as long as it's added on. I see what you're saying though in terms of the subs coming on when he was making his way to the 45, that said the referee still did not add on enough time.

yes the ref should have added the time that was taken between the awarding of the 45 and whne the free was taken on which was probably a minute and half i think he added 45 seconds or so

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/08/2012 13:33:36    1243306

Ill stand corrected but im pretty sure there is no rule that states what player in what position must takes frees. Cluxton is a keeper, and is entitled as any other player to take a free. Its naturally going to him longer to get up there. I do think he should be encouraged to run up to the position but i don't agree time should be added on. Yes, if he walks up, add on time, but not if he runs. Its not logical to think a team should be penalised just because their free taker is their keeper.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1663 - 11/08/2012 13:47:21    1243315

by the way did banty getfined for putting on the runners bid to come onto the pitch against laois as i remeber liam dunne did it and the gaa moved to clarify that it wouldnt be allowed again

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/08/2012 16:53:52    1243393