51longago
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hill16no1man
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avonali
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If you count up all the time it takes Ross Munnelly to complete his ridiculous squatting routine before each kick and then multiply that by the number of frees he takes you'll find that his time wasting far exceeds Cluxton's.

good point that one he takes forever and he is mostly just standing haha at least charlie redmond had a few steps back a lick of the fingers lick of the fingers a second time a few steps to the side and run up haha free takers have been taken ages for years if we think about it


Number one.......nobody is moaning about the time that is wasted as long as its reasonably added on at the end.

Number two.......most free kick takers did not have to run from their own goals to take them

God damn it can't ye just hold your hands up for once and tell the truth , it was farcical in the Dublin /Laois game the amount of time that was added on, should of been at least 3/4 min.

It would NOT of been one min if Dublin were trailing that is for sure.



Ahh, 51,51, 51, you're an awful man altogether. Listen, you're real name is not Jim Corr is it, by any chance? I reckon you're thick that the Dubs won because you know you're going to get a hiding in September :-)

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 12:49:36    1242855

Can you not just address the post instead of insulting the poster?

Most forums only allow posters to attack the post not the poster.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 10/08/2012 12:59:39    1242862

1longago
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Can you not just address the post instead of insulting the poster?

Most forums only allow posters to attack the post not the poster.

Most Sports forums don't allow posters to implicitly espouse violence on the football pitch, nor do they allow people to express the wish to "slap people on the jaws". My you've become very sensitive all of a sudden. OK then, what are you saying?? Come right out with it!!! Are you alleging that the referee in the Dublin Laois game was acting corruptly, that he deliberately cut extra time to benefit the Dubs because this ultimately fills the GAA coffers??? Is that what you are saying. By the way, you insult Dublin folk in this forum on a regular basis. Why the hell would you choose to live here if you hold us in such contempt???

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 13:14:45    1242874

51longago
County: Mayo
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but it didnt matter where the free taker had to come from beside the ball or a goal the other end of the pitch as cluxton had to actualy wait for two substitutions to be made one from dublin and one from laois so it wasnt because of him the game was stopped

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/08/2012 15:24:37    1242937

Ahh would you ever give over.

Simple question should there of been more than one minute stoppage time?

I believe there should of been four and one minute was absolutely ridiculous.

Dublin get the rub of the green in Croker, everybody knows that bar the Dublin faithful, only Kerry don't complain much there would of been an outcry about many decisions in last years final.

Of course you're going to counter all this with blinded bias toward your own but it is the truth, as i have stated numerous times , it's all down to home advantage, the most ridiculous advantage i have ever known in any sport, not Soccer/rugby/basketball/cricket you name it, it's beyond ridiculous to hand such a massive advantage to a team.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 10/08/2012 15:37:55    1242943

Home advantage? for who? Everybody knows Croke park is like the Vatican - it aint Rome buddy! and as for Kerry not complaining? are you having a laugh? they've been unbearable all year and about half as bad as you 51!

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 10/08/2012 15:43:20    1242946

51longago
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Ahh would you ever give over.

Simple question should there of been more than one minute stoppage time?

I believe there should of been four and one minute was absolutely ridiculous.

Dublin get the rub of the green in Croker, everybody knows that bar the Dublin faithful, only Kerry don't complain much there would of been an outcry about many decisions in last years final.

Of course you're going to counter all this with blinded bias toward your own but it is the truth, as i have stated numerous times , it's all down to home advantage, the most ridiculous advantage i have ever known in any sport, not Soccer/rugby/basketball/cricket you name it, it's beyond ridiculous to hand such a massive advantage to a team.

Parnell Park is Dublin's home ground. Croke Park is Headquarters. Will you protest if say Mayo beat Dublin and go on to play Cork or Donegal in Croke Parkl?? No? But if Dublin beat Mayo are you proposing that the All-Ireland Final be played in a neutral venue like Pairc Ui Caoimh - god bless us and save us - which has much more limited capacity than Croker?? Will Man Utd protest if the FA Cup final is played in Wembley stadium when they are facing Chelsea???
Also, I note your reluctance to answer my question: are you accusing the referee in the Dublin v Laois match of corruption?? It's an easy question, but have you the courage of your convictions and are you willing to come out and make a potentially defamatory allegation???????

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 15:53:33    1242952

Jesus fookin wept.

Ar u stupid?


Dublin are down for home games in the leinster championship, they don't play them in parnell park, Dublin even play their home league games in croke park ffs, tart it up anyway you want with nonsensical arguments about the cup final across the water.

If Man united are down to play Chelsea away in the cup , it's played at stamford bridge, if Dublin are down for an away fixture in the leinster championship they play it at home in croke park.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 10/08/2012 16:01:32    1242955

Jesus, for a self-confessed troll who then complains about people making insulting remarks and then has the temerity to revert to type and start insulting people again
you have some neck. Firstly, this is the third time I have asked you this and you will not respond. Your full of oul' blather but when push comes to shove you lack conviction . Are you accusing the referee in the Dublin Laois game of acting corruptly?? Go on and be a man and answer the question. Dublin play their share of away
their league fixtures. I imagine the GAA schedules many of its Leinster championship matches in Croker to maximise revenue. I for one love traveling to away fixtures and wish there were more of them.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 16:13:41    1242961

only in the gaa would a county get away with saying that croke park is a neutral venue when the dog on the street knows its a home venue. your completely right there 51.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 10/08/2012 16:20:37    1242970

And there lies the problem 'maximising revenue' takes the priority over fairness in the gaa where is that oh yeah famous word 'ETHOS' that the gaa was built on not relevant when it comes to 'maximising revenue'.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 10/08/2012 16:27:38    1242974

51longago
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Jesus fookin wept.

Ar u stupid?


Regarding being stupid: you struggle to form a basic English sentence and you are continually using words out of context. Before you start slinging insults like that around try to behave with a bit of intelligence and try to write proper English like a good man. e.g. 'sentimental" as opposed to "sensitive" etc. THe admin will probably block this post which I find incredible when you consider the thrash you're allowed write in here.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 16:29:34    1242976

No, i do not accuse any referee of corruption.

It's not hard to understand, we will have to go down the soccer example again, you seem to half grasp this. Do teams get a fair crack at the whip all the time at old trafford when playing united? They don't do they, it would take a very brave ref to award a penalty if united were one up in the dying minutes.

It is the same in croker and more besides.

Now it is my opinion Dublin should not get to use croker as a home venue till the q/f , i think that is fair and fairly clear, you obviously disagree.

I will not stop moaning about it till i'm in my grave , you are certainly not going to change my mind on it.

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 10/08/2012 16:30:14    1242978

The Dubs are the big show of the GAA

All games like this at the business end of the championship that involve Dublin should, without question... be played in Croke Park.

And guess what...

Thats exactly what happens... every bloody year.

Get used to it fella's. Its not our fault we're not small change...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 10/08/2012 16:31:57    1242979

And where do you think the money comes from to fund training camps for kids all around the country. Where would the funds come to insure players and provide them with some kind of support? It's in everybody's interest the the GAA has access to funds to promote our games. I don't see any of the county boards around the country refusing funding for improving grounds and training facilities??

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 16:35:12    1242980

51longago
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No, i do not accuse any referee of corruption.

It's not hard to understand, we will have to go down the soccer example again, you seem to half grasp this. Do teams get a fair crack at the whip all the time at old trafford when playing united? They don't do they, it would take a very brave ref to award a penalty if united were one up in the dying minutes.

It is the same in croker and more besides.

Now it is my opinion Dublin should not get to use croker as a home venue till the q/f , i think that is fair and fairly clear, you obviously disagree.

I will not stop moaning about it till i'm in my grave , you are certainly not going to change my mind on it.


(i) Just as I suspected; you don't have the courage of you're convictions. You accuse a ref of bias and imply all sorts of things but when it comes down to it you are too cowardly to follow the logic of your argument.
(ii) You seem very familiar with refereeing patterns in Old Trafford and you're sometimes loutish behavior in here suggests you have suffered too much exposure to the foreign games despite your professed disdain for soccer.
(iii) i don't have any interest in changing your mind mon ami. You are perfect just as you are.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 16:42:29    1242982

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And where do you think the money comes from to fund training camps for kids all around the country. Where would the funds come to insure players and provide them with some kind of support? It's in everybody's interest the the GAA has access to funds to promote our games. I don't see any of the county boards around the country refusing funding for improving grounds and training facilities??

Is this a shifting of the goalposts in your defense of Dublin playing all their games at Croker?

Your argument has changed completely.

You have also said in this exchange Dublins home ground is Parnell park, then went onto say Dublin play their fair share of away games in the league in response to me saying they play their home league games at Croker these days, surely for such an intellectual you pride yourself on, you realize you have now expressed your argument as a self defeating one.

BTW, grammar nazi you are, you're not supposed to start a sentence with "and". (jus sayin der , ya know wat i mean lik)

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 10/08/2012 16:48:32    1242986

Some of the arguments here are nonsense . If revenue and capacity is the issue well that doesn't stack up . Only 50000 attended the Dublin wexford game . Half of them were there to see Meath kildare . Wexford park could have accommodated the other half and given the town a bit of business . I can think of 4 champ games in last twelve months that Dublin would have lost outside croker . And thats conservative . Prob would have lost 1 of wex games , kildare , Donegal , Kerry maybe laois .

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 817 - 10/08/2012 17:29:18    1243009

51longago
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avonali
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And where do you think the money comes from to fund training camps for kids all around the country. Where would the funds come to insure players and provide them with some kind of support? It's in everybody's interest the the GAA has access to funds to promote our games. I don't see any of the county boards around the country refusing funding for improving grounds and training facilities??

Is this a shifting of the goalposts in your defense of Dublin playing all their games at Croker?

Your argument has changed completely.

You have also said in this exchange Dublins home ground is Parnell park, then went onto say Dublin play their fair share of away games in the league in response to me saying they play their home league games at Croker these days, surely for such an intellectual you pride yourself on, you realize you have now expressed your argument as a self defeating one.

BTW, grammar nazi you are, you're not supposed to start a sentence with "and". (jus sayin der , ya know wat i mean ilk)


Well now. Firstly you probably wouldn't know this but it is now deemed acceptable to begin a sentence with a conjunction such as 'and'. Google it. I'm no grammar nazi, but you sir are the one who calls people stupid in this forum. Where did you get your PhD. ? You seem really hung up on what you call "intellectual".Perhaps you've got some kind of complex going on there. Everybody makes typos and grammar mistakes but I note that your posts have no analytical merit at all. YOu are incapable of analyzing a game and discussing what's really going on. You spout your facts and figures and you know just how many titles Mayo have won etc. Sure any parrot could do that!!! You boast about your knowledge in here but I have certainly seen nothing to suggest you're nothing but an jul windbag.

The ground of my argument has not shifted at all. But yours most certainly have. I now see that not only have you conceded ground on the issue of biassed refereeing but now you are saying that All-Ireland quarter finals should be played in Croke Park. But what about Dublin's unfair advantage in that case?? I don't mind travelling anywhere to see Dublin playing but many, many teams love having the opportunity to come up and play in Croke Park. I don't think that venue carries any innate advantage for the Dubs. Perhaps its more convenient for the fans but that's about it.

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avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2010 - 10/08/2012 17:33:37    1243012

Certain posters just want Dublin out of Croke Park because it will in their eyes increase the chance of watching Dublin lose.

The fact that at this time of the year having Dublin in Croker is a huge marketing opportunity for our sports... sponsorship/TV Rights/media coverage... lots of things

Matters not.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 10/08/2012 18:02:02    1243026