doublehop
County: Kildare
Posts: 2058

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Fair play gaelsarebest, but do you not think the Cavan county board could have stopped this transfer at any time? Also I think you're painiting SJ in a bit of a overly naive light there. He's a lovely wee innocent fella who just fell in with the wrong crowd, is it? Hardly.. Kildare have made serious lapses in judgement throughout this thing for sure but the Cavan CB didn't even object to the transfer and like it or not Seanie has been the main driver behind it. Hate us all you want, I probably would if I was in your position but I'd take off the rose-tinted glasses when looking a bit closer to home too.

Inaccuracies, lies, propaganda, yawn.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 03/07/2012 13:36:40    1208355

Fair play to you Sedico you're not afraid to stick to your convictions. All this talk about ethos of the GAA and then turn on one county like dogs after blood, is that the true ethos of the GAA ?? It's being fuelled big time at the moment but especially by noted stalwart icons of GAA now involved in punditry and reporting.

Let them on !!

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1728 - 03/07/2012 13:47:48    1208373

sedico
County: Kildare
Posts: 630
I'm sure you're well aware that people cheered against Meath last year did they not? Joe Sheridan was booed by opposition fans after that game

Actually the Kildare fans were the only fans post 2010 to boo joe sheridan. you are becoming more and more like the dubs. and your boo boys were out in force for the meath game again! On the transfer, I am against the others but admit I didn't know about them at the time as the media didn't pick up on them. double standards by the media yes, but the seanie thing is completely wrong and you'd swear kildare were a premier league team the way your fans have been going on this year.

sure why not call yourselves the Lilly Spurs.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 03/07/2012 13:50:22    1208378

Howya Horse. Good to see this circus has clowns!

I'd say Billy Sheehan must be laughing at all the attention Seanie is getting.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 03/07/2012 14:05:53    1208412

s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 1470

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did anyone hear Val andrews on that radio programme on Sunday evening. I think its called take you point.. it was quite interesting.He was probed time and again by the interviewer about why he dropped Seanie and what took place but he refused to discuss an amateur player's misgivings on national media and said as much. it was interesting as much for what he didn't say as did say if you know what I mean. but Val has alot of dignity. but clearly there was an issue not related to football which was hinted at but not spoken about.

Heard the programe ,Andrews only addmitted he dropped Seanie for non footballing reasons , and Andrews seemed to get quite annoyed when the interviewer O Reilly pressed him on the subject.

richiej (UK) - Posts: 1430 - 03/07/2012 14:06:03    1208413

Anyone in Kildare willing to call a spade a spade on this and tell us the real reasons for the transfer as if I didn't already know. Thomas walshs' transfer at the beginning of '07 was the very same by the way but because it was between two bald men fighting over a comb nobody cared. That transfer did huge damage to our hopes of progress at the time and did irreparable damage to Wicklow's reputation and the relationship between the counties. Kildare have a long association of imports don't they? They lost Shay Fahy and Tompkins of course but got more than their fair share in under you know who?
Comparing this sort of back room underhanded move with distasteful acts on the field of play is not a reasonable comparison. This, as was the Walsh transfer, a premeditated act with many levels complicit in it's execution. It's just sneaky.
I'm only dying to debate this anyone willing to try and defend this carry on so have at it gentlemen. C'mon Cavan.
Incidentally, if it's all above board and there's nothing to be ashamed of then why wouldn't Johnston represent the Kildare select against Cavan? Surely he'll be available for selection? If not why not? Sure we're all looking for value in a recession? Get it?

Bosco (Carlow) - Posts: 664 - 03/07/2012 14:19:39    1208428

BettystownRoyal
County: Meath
Posts: 2393

1208378 sedico
County: Kildare
Posts: 630
I'm sure you're well aware that people cheered against Meath last year did they not? Joe Sheridan was booed by opposition fans after that game

Actually the Kildare fans were the only fans post 2010 to boo joe sheridan. you are becoming more and more like the dubs. and your boo boys were out in force for the meath game again! On the transfer, I am against the others but admit I didn't know about them at the time as the media didn't pick up on them. double standards by the media yes, but the seanie thing is completely wrong and you'd swear kildare were a premier league team the way your fans have been going on this year.

sure why not call yourselves the Lilly Spurs.


Kildare fans were the only ones to boo Joe Sheridan? Ah here. I give up.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 03/07/2012 14:20:56    1208431

Yep only fans to boo Sheridan was kildares , even in cavan there wasn't that many boos for joe as there was from the kildare lads and that was against louth. And again on sunday every free that meath got the boo boys were out. Joe Sheridan tried his best to get a goal and win his county a provincial title, it should not have stood a error by ref and umpires allowed it to happen , it had nothing to do with joe , every other forward in country would have done what he did. What happened after is entirely different thing and was not anything to do with joe,. I personally cannot see any comparisons.
He did not try to poach a player, he did not stick two fingers up to gaa and take up a hurl.

I am not a fan of kildare football , never have been, but I actually felt sorry for the genuine fans of kildare on sunday, they appeared embarrassed, and ashamed by what was done in there county , by kcb, supporters club, and mcgeeney, its obvious that majority don't want this transfer despite what maybe said by some on this site. But its also obvious they are afraid to stand up to it for a fear that geezer will head back to armagh, especially now that p o'r is gone. They fear another decade in the doldrums. I say this to kildare fans, not out of a love for kildare but out of respect for a game I adore, yous can do better, a trip down to longford along the m4 is not that far of journey. If you want to poach someone poach one of your own, who is doing a fine job with not a tenth of the resources. Imagine what he would do in kildare? With all that founding.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/07/2012 14:31:59    1208447

sedico
County: Kildare
Posts: 631

Kildare fans were the only ones to boo Joe Sheridan? Ah here. I give up.

There's that thick skin again.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12400 - 03/07/2012 14:36:46    1208458

Ok not the only ones but Louth had a reason to boo him. Kildare have been the only other team to do it and in the All-ire quarter final 2010 it made you look quite silly.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 03/07/2012 14:44:30    1208471

03/07/2012 14:06:03
richiej
County: UK
Posts: 1346

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s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 1470

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did anyone hear Val andrews on that radio programme on Sunday evening. I think its called take you point.. it was quite interesting.He was probed time and again by the interviewer about why he dropped Seanie and what took place but he refused to discuss an amateur player's misgivings on national media and said as much. it was interesting as much for what he didn't say as did say if you know what I mean. but Val has alot of dignity. but clearly there was an issue not related to football which was hinted at but not spoken about.

Heard the programe ,Andrews only addmitted he dropped Seanie for non footballing reasons , and Andrews seemed to get quite annoyed when the interviewer O Reilly pressed him on the subject.

The truth will come out some day. Seanie made himself to be the victim, there is no smoke without fire.

bluedubstar (Dublin) - Posts: 835 - 03/07/2012 14:58:54    1208495

I think this was rigged by Croke Park to give Seanie a sucker punch. This wont go unnoticed by Kildare and will be used to full advantage by their management team. I'd expect Kildare to be very focused and expect a backlash. Kildare at 1/5 with pp is easy intrest on your money. Nobody will want to get them after this and I still think they'll be in Croke Park in Sept. Seanie will see plenty of action this year yet, I can just see it coming.

maroon2gold (Westmeath) - Posts: 551 - 03/07/2012 15:04:30    1208505

Ill tell you one thing sedico. Majority of louth fans never once blamed joe for what went on. Yeah of course you will see the usual guys on hear going on about this that and other, but majority blamed ref for not consulting with umpires, umpires for not letting ref know ball was not kicked into net, and meath co board for not offering the replay that would have been deserved, all those were rightly blamed, now what happened after game by very few louth idiots was a disgrace , I or rather my child was a victim of it too. But do I hold that against majority of louth fans. Not one bit.
I've often responded to the usual few on hear with snide comments but guys like ollie, mr and a fair few others know where I stood on this.
But to compare the two is ridicules, there is no comparison and to be honest it seems like a attempt to distract.
Bite the bullet, admit it is wrong on all levels. Just because similar has happened before not to this extent but still not genuine is a lame excuse. And they lad just wants to play ball is a stupid excuse. And they we didn't go looking for him is another load of bull. And ill await the but he and kcb said he went to them. Please what else are they going to say? We all know that is bull.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/07/2012 15:08:59    1208512

Kilavan v Cavan

Weird.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 03/07/2012 15:23:34    1208537

I could think of a hundred things wrong with the GAA for the media to get their teeth into, all this hullabaloo over a stupid transfer, the media whipping what should have been no more than a storm in teacup into an effing hurricane, and of course Kildare are now the devils of the GAA and everybody wants to see us fall, Kildare lost against Meath and believe it had absolutely nothing to do with Seanie Johnston.

Seanie Johnston? who gives a damn?, he was asked and he had 2 choices "yes or no" and he said yes, now move along please nothing to see here!.

kildarecat22 (Kildare) - Posts: 257 - 03/07/2012 15:47:55    1208567

kildarecat22 You cant expect people to treat this as any normal transfer, because its not. But that being said the transfer went through and whats done is done, the most frustrating part is the mockery made of GAA by whoever is responsible for Seanie Johnston playing 35seconds of a hurling match. What a total farce!!! all that & not to be played on sunday. Interesting to see will he make an appearance against cavan, you can be assured all eyes will be on this game!

Foxyrrr (Wicklow) - Posts: 5 - 03/07/2012 16:03:35    1208597

The game is at 3pm on Sunday 15th giving the likely winners Kildare a 6 day turnaround til the next round on 21st .

richiej (UK) - Posts: 1430 - 03/07/2012 16:18:52    1208613

Foxyrr. Your at least the second Wicklow poster on this thread giving out about the sj transfer.

Bit much coming from Wicklow who acted the very same as Kildare with walshes transfer from Carlow.

Of course when micko does it he's a loveable rogue but when mcgeeney does it the whole gaa world will collapse.

I detest the Johnson transfer but I wonder where all the media and posters were when Carlow was being raided a few years back.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1541 - 03/07/2012 16:42:56    1208652

Howya there doublehop it funny you quote about clowns after the week ye are after having, still to be fair to all the kildare lads in these very hard times it is still great to have something to laugh at keep it up lads

Ger.say (Laois) - Posts: 130 - 03/07/2012 16:46:36    1208659

foxyrrr it turned into a farce mainly because the GAA is full of farcical rules, the gaa not only needs to become more centralised but the archaic rule book needs a thorough overhaul to bring the organisation into the 21st century and rid it of the dinosaur mentality that still has it routes in 1884.

As for the Kildare Cavan game?, after all the media frensy and the bad karma from rival supporters it would be better if Seanie doesn't set foot on the Kildare bus, it will be a major distraction for not only the Kildare players but the Cavan players too and not fair on the player himself, I bet when he elected to try and play for Kildare he never thought it would turn into a circus and he'd be the circuses star clown.

kildarecat22 (Kildare) - Posts: 257 - 03/07/2012 16:57:40    1208676