county man
County: Limerick
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Sorry Hurlingdub, Goldrick is right. The correct name is "Ireland" which our passports say as well. Also our soccer logo (until recently anyways) had "Eire" on it which also means Ireland, not the Republic of Ireland.

I'm not sure where the reference to the Republic of Ireland came from, maybe it was to distinguish the team from Northern Ireland in soccer terms, but in legal terms it doesn't exist.

the refrence came from the brits as they decided they were getting confused with the two teams and as usual like most things here we followed their idea

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/06/2012 17:04:47    1189113

hurlingdub
County: Dublin
Posts: 3984

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Perhaps you have a point Master. Although I think there is more of a connection between a club team and their community. Anyway, as I said I don't resent them or the support although some of the media stuff is painful. Actually that gives me an insight into what non Dubs think of the Dubs :-)

but the differance is when dublin play good and win they get that over the top media reaction like ireland but when we play bad or lose we also get the way over the top criticism unlike the irish soccer team

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/06/2012 17:06:53    1189118

gigoer
County: Wexford
Posts: 1716

Hillman, your points about the Leagues & origins are off. The League of Ireland is streets behind the Premiership and other European leagues, good players have to join good teams in order to be exposed and as another poster has demonstrated, plenty of players have started out in the LOI. And you'd swear Ireland is the only soccer nation on earth that has players originally from other countries but qualifies through relatives, that rule is not exclusive to us, do some research on the subject & no doubt, you'll find plenty of that happening on a global scale.

nobody is saying it is as good as the premiership but if thats your opinion then why dont all the leitrim club players go to armagh to play for clubs up there as the armagh club scene is way ahead of leitrim club scene and they would get far more exposure,simple they go over to britain because they get paid more money.
if your a good player your a good player it does not matter if you play in ireland england wales or azerbaijan thats my point the IRISH MANAGEMENT TEAM WILL NOT LOOK AT PLAYERS UNLESS THEY PLAY OUTSIDE OF IRELAND.until this changes the irish league will never keep players

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/06/2012 17:14:37    1189128

nobody is saying it is as good as the premiership but if thats your opinion then why dont all the leitrim club players go to armagh to play for clubs up there as the armagh club scene is way ahead of leitrim club scene and they would get far more exposure,simple they go over to britain because they get paid more money.


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Slight problem there, (SJ aside) being that you can't just change clubs willy-nilly in the GAA.

OgraAnDun (Down) - Posts: 406 - 07/06/2012 17:20:41    1189135

OgraAnDun
County: Down
Posts: 54

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nobody is saying it is as good as the premiership but if thats your opinion then why dont all the leitrim club players go to armagh to play for clubs up there as the armagh club scene is way ahead of leitrim club scene and they would get far more exposure,simple they go over to britain because they get paid more money.


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Slight problem there, (SJ aside) being that you can't just change clubs willy-nilly in the GAA.

exactly and you should not be allowed change countrys willy nilly in international soccer

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/06/2012 17:23:35    1189141

exactly and you should not be allowed change countrys willy nilly in international soccer


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GAA is based upon playing for parish and community whereas soccer is not. Hence the rule differences.

OgraAnDun (Down) - Posts: 406 - 07/06/2012 17:27:47    1189151

hurlingdub
Perhaps you have a point Master. Although I think there is more of a connection between a club team and their community. Anyway, as I said I don't resent them or the support although some of the media stuff is painful. Actually that gives me an insight into what non Dubs think of the Dubs :-)

No, it would be more like if your papers were writing about an over-rated opponent, like if the herald wrote solely about england at the euros.


hill16no1man
but the differance is when dublin play good and win they get that over the top media reaction like ireland but when we play bad or lose we also get the way over the top criticism unlike the irish soccer team

The mind boggles! 'Bernard brogan, perhaps the finest, sorry no perhaps about it, the finest footballer to ever kick a football, rivalled only by alan brogan and mark vaughan.' And that is only the problem pages...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 07/06/2012 17:37:36    1189169

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 1771

nobody is saying it is as good as the premiership but if thats your opinion then why dont all the leitrim club players go to armagh to play for clubs up there as the armagh club scene is way ahead of leitrim club scene and they would get far more exposure,simple they go over to britain because they get paid more money.


And why the hell shouldn't they? It is a professional sport, they have every right to make a living out of it.

if your a good player your a good player it does not matter if you play in ireland england wales or azerbaijan thats my point the IRISH MANAGEMENT TEAM WILL NOT LOOK AT PLAYERS UNLESS THEY PLAY OUTSIDE OF IRELAND.until this changes the irish league will never keep players

The GAA may be about where you're from but soccer is not.

Get over it.

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 07/06/2012 18:14:50    1189202

s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 1429

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i don't know why we are allways referred to as "the republic of Ireland" surely it should be "Ireland"

The FAI split from the IFA just before partition. There followed a period of time during the 20s, 30s and 40s where there were two internationl soccer teams, one representing the IFA in Belfast and one representing the FAI in Dublin both calling themselves 'Ireland'.

There was a lot of negotiations going on all the time between the two associations and the newly formed FIFA about the name 'Ireland', international records and even reunification for a brief time during the 30s.

The name issue was finally ended after the declaration of the Republic of Ireland in 1948, and FIFA decreed that the IFA selection should be known as 'Northern Ireland' whereas the FAI selection should be known as the 'Republic of Ireland'.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13819 - 07/06/2012 19:00:11    1189237

clondalkin, the part of dublin i went through anyway i seen more people wearing dub jerseys or tops and not many irish flags at all. there were more irish flags than dub flags but compared to belfast which half the people hate this country there were hardly any flags.

ffgg
when you were saying it would be way bigger to win the euros i made the assumption that you meant it would be bigger for longford than if they won leinster or the all ire so i was saying that that is not the case in any of the counties around me. must have mis interpreted you because when meath were big in the late 80's, 90's and early 00's no soccer competition came close to the hype.

hill16no1man
well said and i never l
thought of that. the media are complete hypocrites. how can they say donegal re ruining the game when the irish soccer team have desroyed the game here. i'll never ever go watch another international after the crap they produced insome of the games i went to. i don't care if they held out for an important 0-0 draw or 1-0 win i'd rather they place nice football which they are capable of doing and never qualify and lets be honest, one major tournament in 1o years doesn't make all the crap football worth while.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 07/06/2012 19:48:05    1189282

Betty I don't know what part of Dublin you where in but in all the working class areas there covered in bunting and irish flags, way more than Dublin had for last years all Ireland. Dublin is buzzing for the euros.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 07/06/2012 20:21:44    1189331

Aye, and it was buzzin for the english queen's visit last year clondalkin,
it seems that dublin is always buzzin! ;)

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 07/06/2012 20:30:50    1189343

Your dead right gatekeeper, good post.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 07/06/2012 20:42:33    1189358

Nooooo comparison between Gaelic football and Soccar, how the hell can you compare a group of Premadonas who get paid MASSIF money for literally using their feet to play to true Sportsmen who do it all for the love of the game, dont get paid a bean and have to be incredible fit and able and athletic, take horrific knocks week after week but still have to face goin into work on a Monday morn, just like the rest of us.....as I say, NO competition, in my opinion.....

Mollymalone (Dublin) - Posts: 1137 - 07/06/2012 21:01:07    1189382

Why I don't follow soccer! Too much hype and this sort if nonsense!
And the end procduct is rubbish, sure you'd need to be scuttered to
watch it1
[url=]www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qykUdp4qRXE#

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 07/06/2012 21:02:59    1189389

Glad to see many of you are free to wave the flag and wear the jersey for the country in the Euros; Catholics in the North are often attacked and murdered for such a simple act of national pride but hey out of sight out of mind.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 07/06/2012 21:07:29    1189395

ha ha ha go to youtube type irish fans v england coach bus absolute classic ;-)

dubbydave. (Dublin) - Posts: 3927 - 07/06/2012 21:31:49    1189419

clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 2095

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Betty I don't know what part of Dublin you where in but in all the working class areas there covered in bunting and irish flags, way more than Dublin had for last years all Ireland. Dublin is buzzing for the euros.

yeah because the working class areas have been given the buntings and flags to be put up by county councils,there not going out and buying them themselves if your given the stuff free there going to go up,you cannot see town was not covered in blue in the build up to the all ireland final last year and there is certain places as soon as the championship begins houses are covered blue and navy,this only ahppens for ireland when they are in the finals the same equivalent of being in the all ireland final not the begining of the championship

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 08/06/2012 09:07:47    1189476

OgraAnDun
County: Down
Posts: 57

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exactly and you should not be allowed change countrys willy nilly in international soccer


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GAA is based upon playing for parish and community whereas soccer is not. Hence the rule differences.

then why bother to have giudelines in the first place if they are not going to be used

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 08/06/2012 09:08:44    1189477

TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 4256


every newspaper ireland has worships england all year around be it x factor,premiership,strictly come dancing,big brother,celebrity get out here, the list goes on to the uk voice which was proven to be worse then the voice of ireland as the young fella out of fair city couldnt get by the second round here but made it to the final there

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 08/06/2012 09:11:45    1189478