And what an arse it is!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 01/06/2012 19:30:06    1185463

Ah yes where would we be without the dry northern wit? .... in a 26 county republic ... thank god

booboo (Cork) - Posts: 1382 - 02/06/2012 15:06:29    1185707

So says the poster from the royal borough of Corkshire.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 02/06/2012 18:30:45    1185815

So Booboo let me get this straight: as far as you're concerned any bar should be free to discriminate because they're privately owned? No GAA jerseys, blacks, whites, browns, gay, straight, Catholic, Jewish, Protestant, Muslim, etc. etc. etc.? You labour under the misunderstanding that privately owned somehow entitles someone to publicly espouse racist, bigoted etc. values..

Incidentally, though privately owned the premises, as a bar, is publicly licensed to sell alcohol to the general public so the very basis of your argument is fundamentally flawed. It's the same logic that prevents bars in Ireland from discriminating against Travelers for no reason other than their being members of that community.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3148 - 02/06/2012 18:59:12    1185835

brendtheredhand: one mustn't forget that the so-called Rebel County got it's title from the inhabitants of that regions' refusal to join on the side of the Earls during the Nine Year War which ended with the calamitous loss at Kinsale. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the War of Independence which is a common misconception. (In the interests of fairness, and as a mark of respect to the likes of Corkcelt and his ilk that grace these boards, I feel compelled to state that Cork has acquitted itself as well as any other in more recent times, and has more than it's fair share of honourable men and women)

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3148 - 02/06/2012 19:28:29    1185846

Very well articulated, festinog

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3028 - 02/06/2012 19:33:42    1185850

festinog
County: Galway
Posts: 1202

1185835 So Booboo let me get this straight: as far as you're concerned any bar should be free to discriminate because they're privately owned? No GAA jerseys, blacks, whites, browns, gay, straight, Catholic, Jewish, Protestant, Muslim, etc. etc. etc.? You labour under the misunderstanding that privately owned somehow entitles someone to publicly espouse racist, bigoted etc. values..

Facepalm....

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 02/06/2012 19:43:27    1185857

s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 1414

1184474
I wouldn't wear a Cavan jersey in Kells.


I am even braver. Sure I married a Monaghan woman !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 03/06/2012 11:39:05    1185987

Todays Irish News reports that a South Belfast Tesco manager asked two 14 year olds who were bag packing for charity to remove their GAA jerseys. Another customer said, they shouldnt be supporting anything Irish. Tesco's have now apologised for the incident after one of the 14 year old's father reported it. This is one of the main reasons why the GAA only thrives in the west of the city. Its not that there are no Catholics in other parts, there are plenty but even in a 'mixed suburb' you will get narrow minded bigots who intimidate kids carrying gear bags or practicing in their local park. I grew up with it and thought that those days might be passed us but once again we get a clear reminder of how it really is....STILL!

Topa_the_left (Antrim) - Posts: 250 - 04/06/2012 17:14:51    1186763

Cavan_Slasher
County: Cavan
Posts: 9093

1185987
s goldrick
County: Cavan
Posts: 1414

1184474
I wouldn't wear a Cavan jersey in Kells.


I am even braver. Sure I married a Monaghan woman !!


Slash you should count yourself lucky she had ya going by the old guff you give on here.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 04/06/2012 17:47:12    1186800

Bar in question is a joke in my opinion, after running in marathon i and a few friends went there after, i was wearing a uuj tracksuit, those at the door questioned it but they clearly have not got a clue i just told them it was a university top! but i could tell they were looking at me and it did feel intimidating and not welcoming at all. one rule for some and another for others, bigotry still runs rife!!

ohtoohtobe (Antrim) - Posts: 3 - 05/06/2012 11:00:12    1187109

Has anyone within the Equality Commission, Croke Park, Dublin GAA circles or the Irish media challenged this bar yet? We have just had several weeks of right in your face Lizzie Windsor Royal Jubilee stuff in the North and most Nationalists have just looked the other way and let Unionists get on with it. However when the boot is on the other foot many Unionists from all classes and backgrounds are still very intolerant and extremely bigoted against anything to do with Irish culture or the GAA. The Northern Catholic community wouldn't expect anyone from Kerry or Cork to understand this mindset as they haven't lived it. They have been free to wear their GAA tops the length and breadth of the South; they haven't had club members murdered by British death squads; they haven't had guns stuck in their mouths and threatened on their way to matches by the British Army and RUC; they haven't had glass stuck in their pitches and pipe bombs left on the gates of their grounds; they have't been pulled in at the roadside, had their club gear threw in ditches and intimidated at by the British Army and RUC; they haven't been discriminated against by Unionist Councils and denied pitches by these same bigots while soccer pitches and leisure centres are built all over Unionist districts. As I said I wouldn't expect some ignorant people outside Ulster to know!

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9818 - 05/06/2012 21:39:40    1187802

As I said I wouldn't expect some ignorant people outside ULSTER to know!


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*The North East of the country. Seeing as Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan have been pretty exempt from it.

OgraAnDun (Down) - Posts: 406 - 06/06/2012 08:31:52    1187842

Ulsterman, your hatred for unionists is only equalled by your hatred for the south. Calm down a small bit like a good man.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 06/06/2012 08:40:04    1187847

I think it's good that stories like this one should be made more public and even brought further. There are many in the South who think that since the GFA, the new RUC, some british army withdrawal that everything in the North is rosy. It's not and people who live in the North or frequent it (as I do) know it's not. This is only one story of many and there are some posters on here not comparing like for like. I have been in many places in the south too and have witnessed many of the stories on here but It is different in the North and very bigoted, intimidating and should not be tolerated. There are pubs in my wife's hometown in Tyrone that she will not go into and obviously doesn't want me to go into either due to my southern brogue. All in all it is just typical of some of the ignorance on here to just brush it aside. When I give an opinion it's generally something I know about. If I don't know about a subject I won't give an opinion.

DanBreen (Kerry) - Posts: 73 - 06/06/2012 08:53:14    1187857

Dan Breen

Thank god for to hear someone from Kerry to come out and say what you are after stating. The G F A did bring some hope but that has been eroded and we are practically back where we started pre 1969, yeah there has been houses built in Nationalist areas but that practically all, oh the British army are of our streets (mavbe that was the original British original aims for the G F A ) the much heralded P S N I are drifting back to what they always done and woe betide any Nationalist who dares step out of line as there is a two tier structure as far as justice is concerned for any particular offence. Sinn Fein did make an impact for a while but from where I'm standing I see Sinn Fein toning down their language and ideals/ideas as some of the higher echolans of the party have now got tempory jobs in Govt. They drop hints that things will be O K and that things are been worked on and are in the pipeline. It sure is a very long pipe . As for S D L P, well ever since John Hume stepped down, that party has been like a headless chicken.
So the Nationalist people and Nationalist areas are once again, vulnerable . Small wonder that Northern people are very touchy when people whom we regard as Gaels come on Forums such as these and belittles and scoffs at Northern Gaels. It is far harder to be a G A A supporter or participant in the North than in the South. As just for starters District Councils pander to every whim, of Soccer Clubs, Rugby Clubs, or Cricket Clubs by providing faciliites on demand. Driving through Craigavon you will see acres upon acres of Recreation ground taken up by soccer pitches for clubs who didnt have to fork out £1 for either the building of them or for the upkeep . While G A A Clubs have to raise about 80% of the funds to build them and provide 100% of the upkeep

8596 (Armagh) - Posts: 30 - 06/06/2012 14:32:32    1188235

On a recent trip to Dublin a friend invited me to watch a leinster v ulster game at the RDS and we were having a bit of banter in the crowd . Three lads with a Northern Ireland flag wrapped around them in front of me saw a chap with the 9 county ulster flag walking along a row of seats below in front and in their portadown/craigavon/banbridge or wherver in north armagh accent shouted at him to "get rid of that joke flag" Instead of confronting the chaps I just bit my tongue and left the rds immediately. It's well seen the Ulster crowd have warmed nicely to their newly recruited Afrikaans players.

johnjoseph (Derry) - Posts: 158 - 06/06/2012 16:06:40    1188346