What are you on about clondalkin? Your basing this on the opinions of 3 or 4 posters. The vast majority of people in kildare know its not right but what can we do to stop it? By the way Joe Brolly is a disgrace. He attempted to tarnish the good name of kildare gaa people by saying oh it suprises me that alot of kildare gaels are in support of the SJ transfer or something along those lines. What is he talking about?? Who exactly has come out in support of the transfer? Absolute nonsense statement by Brolly. In fairness to O Rourke who i think is the best panelist by a long way pulled Brolly up on the statement and highlighted how unfair it was.

sashman (Kildare) - Posts: 465 - 28/05/2012 15:44:00    1182039

THEN.. rte get ciaran whelan to give he's views which is fair enough except the irony of a dub mentioning 'ethos and the community' he could of mentioned when he was on about ethos my own county are the worst for creating jobs and taking country players off of their small clubs parnells the worst culprit double standards there or what ciaran whelan..

ya have some cheek there brother. When yis get down of that cross that yis are on we will have a better debate about this. But you seem to miss the point here, in the way Kidare and their management have behaved in tapping another counties star player and to 99% of the GAA community its despicable.

bluedubstar (Dublin) - Posts: 835 - 28/05/2012 15:44:21    1182041

So its wrong when an intercounty manager 'taps up' another countys player but its ok for any club to do it? Its only against the ethos when its intercounty.

I'm not comfortable with this transfer at all but how can anyone come on here blowing on about the ethos of the GAA when its happening in every county in Ireland. But see there ok because its not high profile and the media don't care. Will you all wake up for heaven sake.

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 28/05/2012 16:26:39    1182087

I was surprised when the Sunday Game held its own tribunal and poll, don't remember seeing it happen before when it comes to transfers, or maybe I'm wrong. Looks like we're public enemy No.1 this year, would make it all the more sweeter if we succeed no!?

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 28/05/2012 16:34:46    1182093

I didn't see the need for The Sunday Game to do that poll and bring it all up again. This whole transfer saga has been going on way too long and all the anti-Johnston stuff in the media has been too much I think. Fair enough people don't agree with the transfer but at the end of the day he's only a normal fella who gets up and goes to work every morning like the rest of us. To scrutinize him and the whole thing again last night was unnecessary.

If the CCCC drag this out any longer now when it's gone back to them it makes even more of a farce out of the whole thing. He has the paperwork required for a transfer, neither Cavan or Cavan Gaels are trying to stop him. Let him go now and put an end to this whole thing, for everyone's sake!

kefan (Kildare) - Posts: 498 - 28/05/2012 16:42:08    1182098

Fair enough posts from a lot of the Kildare posters here today. Good post Kefan but he didn't help himself by sitting on the bench in the league final, would you agree with that?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 28/05/2012 17:00:37    1182114

Seanie Johnston is a white, is a white, is a white
Seanie Johnston is a white
He hates Laois!

takeyourpoints_ (Kildare) - Posts: 89 - 28/05/2012 17:12:47    1182119

You can defend it all you want Kildare people (sashman, i think you're the first Kildare man Ive heard talk out against it), but it is not Seanie or Kildare which is the problem. It is what was done and how it goes against what the GAA stands for. If you can't see that then it is due to them rose tinted glasses you are wearing.

Speaking for myself, but I think people may agree, I am not annoyed about this for no reason, or for a dig a Kildare, I am annoyed about it because I am a GAA fan and simply dont like it.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 28/05/2012 17:19:03    1182127

haha take your points..the level of scrutiny he is receiving is far to excessive the chap wants to play football.
The constant questioning of his character by the media when they dont know all the facts of the case are unjust.
it is unfair on his family to be listening to that on the sunday game last night colm 'parnells' parkinson running his mouth and saying if he was dropped he would keep the head down and fight for his place back or wait until next year when there's a new manager.
no.1 he doesnt know the full facts of the case to say this.
no.2 you didnt fight for your place back though did ya colm you were barred from playing in a club in laois and parnells in dublin 'tapped ya up'.hypocrite

I would say himself and his family were relieved thursday morning when the cac finally gave the decision however looks set to drag on for longer.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 28/05/2012 17:29:31    1182142

If you look on the Kildare forum page there are plenty of us who have been totally against the SJ transfer and have been from the very beginning. Sick of reading comments by WUM's and lazy posters usually on the main page sitting in judgement of Kildare GAA supporters as if we are all for it and the rest of the country against it. Time for people to start engaging their brains a little more before making judgements.

Kildare30 (Kildare) - Posts: 603 - 28/05/2012 17:41:18    1182158

i would like to know derrylead did you feel the same about the thomas walsh transfer? same again with fahey and tompkins going to cork? i hope you did! and anyone else for that matter thats against the seanie transfer..funny how they never mentioned ethos then or did any of them transfers set up a dangerous precedent?they didnt and seanie will not open the floodgates!!

Tompkins was flying home regularly to play for Kildare, he fell out with the County Board over reimbursements of flights, that is when Castlehaven and Cork GAA stepped in. Tompkins threw his lot in with Cork because of a falling out, while not the same as SJ, it is still another county approaching a player to play for them. It would like Conor Mortimor been approached by Dublin GAA because Parnells pay him to play football now.
you may say two wrong dont make a right but seanie johnston is been treated completely different than any before..
I also believe if he transfered to a weaker county or kildare pre mc geeney era it wouldnt have a made about coloum in the papers!!

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 28/05/2012 17:43:22    1182160

Poor Seanie Johnston, the soap boxes are out, self-righteous pundits whose sh@# dont stink are having a pop!
Im goin out the front door with Seanie (the cavan one)!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 28/05/2012 17:48:25    1182170

Good man johnny doyle on tv3 news says seanie has his work cut out to get up to intercounty standard again and 'he is a good footballer and sure you can never have enough of them' well the unrest in the camp theory can be thrown out the window!

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 28/05/2012 17:58:52    1182177

dhorse

no i find the irony of all the trouble him and kildare have gone to get him playing for a county he has no afiliation for and then if he went and played a hurling match so he could play with the footballers of kildare and he was then not able to play would be karma
what if the club hurling team waited till the last minute to bring him on and the sliotar didnt go out of play an owl seanie was standing there hurl in hand helmet on and the final whistle blows and they were beaten knocked out would kildare make a round of football champo fixtures

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/05/2012 18:06:57    1182194

Well said Kildare30 some posters only see what they want to see, there are plenty of Kildare posters against the SJ transfer if they would bother looking.

OntheWhiteSide (Kildare) - Posts: 452 - 28/05/2012 18:07:35    1182195

lilywhitemagic what did you expect him to say?

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 28/05/2012 18:10:19    1182199

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 1704

no i find the irony of all the trouble him and kildare have gone to get him playing for a county he has no afiliation for and then if he went and played a hurling match so he could play with the footballers of kildare and he was then not able to play would be karma
what if the club hurling team waited till the last minute to bring him on and the sliotar didnt go out of play an owl seanie was standing there hurl in hand helmet on and the final whistle blows and they were beaten knocked out would kildare make a round of football champo fixtures

There's not a bit of truth behind Seanie hurling for Coill Dubh, it was suggested on the Kildare forum as a bit of a joke and people just ran with it.

If the media want to talk about being a possibility then let them away with it, sure a bit of sensationalism isn't going to have too much of an affect on this saga at this late stage.

The idea that some people thought that the hurling option was or still is possible, is ridiculous, people like that are only believing what they want to believe.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3692 - 28/05/2012 18:17:50    1182215

I never said plenty of kildare supporters weren't against this. I think for instance doublehop has been more outspoken than many from other counties against this.

I'm just tired of this he will half to win his place if he is permitted he will play end of. At cost to native kildare player

Point 2. Seannie was tapped up after fall out with cavan by kildare management all 3 panelists said same last night. If it is not true sue.
So is this the type of management that is good for the game? I was against tompkins and fahy but did billy morgan come looking for them? No.
Hear is difference. Plain and simple.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/05/2012 18:32:38    1182231

If you live in a county and play for a club there, you should be allowed play for that county in my opinion

you should also be allowed play for any club you like no matter where you live

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4656 - 28/05/2012 18:46:42    1182241

There is no more anyone can add to this discussion at this stage. Everyone will just have to move on. Cavan, Cavan Gaels, the Kildare squad and supporters who were or weren't for the transfer. It is what it is but everyone will have to suck it up.

Bring on the actual football.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 28/05/2012 19:05:38    1182249