Culann
County: Dublin
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You think that the GAA is bigger today than it was in the past? You think so what if crowds/support is down this year on other years? You don't think the European Championships is going to have any sort effect on crowds/support this year?

It is certainly bigger in regard to facilities , grounds etc, maybe not in participation but I wouldn't be sure. But then again so what, There are a lot of people playing, supporting and more importantly volunteering, there are also a lot more things for people to do and places to go than years ago.
Yes, so what if crowds are down a bit this year, The show will carry on, the payments to Suits, managers and players expenses might have to be reduced.The European championships certainly will have some bearing on attendances , mine certainly, But there will still be a Junior B cup to be drunk out of in every corner of Ireland next Autumn.
Enticing 16 year olds into croke park while the rest of us endure jedward wont make any difference in the long run unless the games are being played, or whether the GAA is the biggest or 5th largest organisation in the country. If they are not interested by then well good luck to them and I would they are interested in some form of social activity sporting or otherwise. That's what it's all about isn't it?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/04/2012 16:06:59    1160605

Culann
County: Dublin
Posts: 182

I take it that its RTÉ that are not allowing it.

Not the case..
just wondering how you came that conclusion when TG4, BBC or TV 3 are broadcasting a game?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/04/2012 16:09:30    1160613

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9801

There is nothing whatsoever wrong with them, they are however not really relevant, there are cheap tickets available to people of school going age even some fairy hair 3rd level students.

My recommendation is that there should be more so.

The publications you mention would seem to be of a bygone era to say the least. However I suggest you run it by a publisher and see whathey think

The publication I mentioned was an example thats why I said 'the likes of'. In any case, if you think that publication belongs to bygone era thats fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion. Regarding the running it by a publisher bit I am suggesting that the GAA run it by a publisher.

Whats with all the negativity? Why do you have to try and ridicule peoples ideas like you did above?

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 26/04/2012 16:10:14    1160616

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9803

Maybe, but if it comes down to just a exercise in putting more bums on seats or improving the games I would go for improving the games.

it's a bit like bread really, do you want to produce a load of popular rubbish with mass appeal or a high quality product

Read my original post whch started the thread. You will find getting bums on seats is mainly what its about. That should be clear enough. Could I be bold enough to suggest you start a thread on what people would prefer - getting bums on seats or improving the games - if thats what you want to talk about?

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 26/04/2012 16:22:24    1160629

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9804

1160613 Culann
County: Dublin
Posts: 182

I take it that its RTÉ that are not allowing it.

Not the case..

Thanks for verifying that. What is the reason for it by the way?

just wondering how you came that conclusion when TG4, BBC or TV 3 are broadcasting a game?

To be honest I didn't think of those other stations...but would you mind enlightening me with why RTÉ, TG4, BBC or TV3 don't broadcast the games on the internet.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 26/04/2012 16:28:29    1160642

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9804

1160605 Culann
County: Dublin
Posts: 182

You think that the GAA is bigger today than it was in the past? You think so what if crowds/support is down this year on other years? You don't think the European Championships is going to have any sort effect on crowds/support this year?

It is certainly bigger in regard to facilities , grounds etc, maybe not in participation but I wouldn't be sure. But then again so what, There are a lot of people playing, supporting and more importantly volunteering, there are also a lot more things for people to do and places to go than years ago.
Yes, so what if crowds are down a bit this year, The show will carry on, the payments to Suits, managers and players expenses might have to be reduced.The European championships certainly will have some bearing on attendances , mine certainly, But there will still be a Junior B cup to be drunk out of in every corner of Ireland next Autumn.
Enticing 16 year olds into croke park while the rest of us endure jedward wont make any difference in the long run unless the games are being played, or whether the GAA is the biggest or 5th largest organisation in the country. If they are not interested by then well good luck to them and I would they are interested in some form of social activity sporting or otherwise. That's what it's all about isn't it?

Basically and to summarise what you are saying here, if I can, my understanding is that you basically couldn't care less one way or another if the attendances are up or down, or if people do or do not support the GAAs games. Thats fair enough but why feel the need to come on to the thread to express that opinion - i ask that question assuming I am correct in my summery.

I look forward to your reply and will read it but I think I will be leaving the last word to you on this one. I'd be more interested in responding to other people who have something positive to offer on the topic.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 26/04/2012 16:47:56    1160669

Culann
County: Dublin
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1160629 dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9803

Maybe, but if it comes down to just a exercise in putting more bums on seats or improving the games I would go for improving the games.

it's a bit like bread really, do you want to produce a load of popular rubbish with mass appeal or a high quality product

Read my original post whch started the thread. You will find getting bums on seats is mainly what its about.

It seems to be, but it should be more about participation, but as proffessionalism takes over it has become more abouty business

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/04/2012 17:10:43    1160692

The publication I mentioned was an example thats why I said 'the likes of'. In any case, if you think that publication belongs to bygone era thats fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion. Regarding the running it by a publisher bit I am suggesting that the GAA run it by a publisher.


I WOULD GUESS THEY HAVE, aN app OR SOME SUCH MIGHT BE MORE RELEVANT NOWADAYS

Whats with all the negativity? Why do you have to try and ridicule peoples ideas like you did above?

YOU MAY BE GETTING NEGATIVITY AND REALITY MIXED UP.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/04/2012 17:15:03    1160695

Culann
County: Dublin
Posts: 186

1160669 dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9804

1160605 Culann
County: Dublin
Posts: 182

You think that the GAA is bigger today than it was in the past? You think so what if crowds/support is down this year on other years? You don't think the European Championships is going to have any sort effect on crowds/support this year?

It is certainly bigger in regard to facilities , grounds etc, maybe not in participation but I wouldn't be sure. But then again so what, There are a lot of people playing, supporting and more importantly volunteering, there are also a lot more things for people to do and places to go than years ago.
Yes, so what if crowds are down a bit this year, The show will carry on, the payments to Suits, managers and players expenses might have to be reduced.The European championships certainly will have some bearing on attendances , mine certainly, But there will still be a Junior B cup to be drunk out of in every corner of Ireland next Autumn.
Enticing 16 year olds into croke park while the rest of us endure jedward wont make any difference in the long run unless the games are being played, or whether the GAA is the biggest or 5th largest organisation in the country. If they are not interested by then well good luck to them and I would they are interested in some form of social activity sporting or otherwise. That's what it's all about isn't it?

Basically and to summarise what you are saying here, if I can, my understanding is that you basically couldn't care less one way or another if the attendances are up or down, or if people do or do not support the GAAs games. Thats fair enough but why feel the need to come on to the thread to express that opinion - i ask that question assuming I am correct in my summery.

YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS ONLY MIDDLING

I WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE SUPORTING THE GAMES MORE THAN ATTENDANCE FIGURES

I look forward to your reply and will read it but I think I will be leaving the last word to you on this one. I'd be more interested in responding to other people who have something positive to offer on the topic.


THANKS BE TO ALLAH FOR THAT, YOU ARE STARTING TO CLOG UP THE CLOUD PLATFORM..

THE GAA IS A FINE ORGANISATION, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO TO GAMES THIS YEAR, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PLAY THE GAMES THIS YEAR AND FOR YEARS TO COME, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PROMOTING THE GAMES WHERE IT COUNTS AT GRASROOTS LEVEL. THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT, DESPITE THE SUITS. HOWS THAT FOR POSITIVITY. HUGZZ

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/04/2012 17:22:56    1160707

I'm amazed so many posters are suggesting cut price tickets for school kids.

They have been available for at least 20 years, although nowadays teachers seldom bring kids to games so its up to the clubs.

We had many a visit from a Kerry club and others on week-ends of League Finals & All Irleland Semis. The Adults with them get in cutprice as well.

Saw a b us load of kids from a club arrive at a National League game in Tullamore this year & all went in free !!!!

Some good suggestion, especially Double Headers. As well as boasting the crowd these might compress the championship and free days for clubs & give a decent interva between games ( having one game per week-end in Ulster stretched things out a lot )

Bit of entertainment . like in London but not the Terrible Rwins, would also help at venues. The Marquees (?) as In London and Rugby games (saw one in Portarlingtom for the Towns Cup Final) would be another good idea but would most likely het opposition from some so-called Anti Drink ( really Anti GAA) heads.

KELF (Kildare) - Posts: 775 - 26/04/2012 17:41:06    1160737

Bit of entertainment . like in London but not the Terrible Rwins, would also help at venues. The Marquees (?) as In London and Rugby games (saw one in Portarlingtom for the Towns Cup Final) would be another good idea but would most likely het opposition from some so-called Anti Drink ( really Anti GAA) heads.

Now thats a marketing strategy. If only it was going to promote GAA instead of the drinks industry. Do we really need banwagon supporters as in rugby?

I love a sup of Ale myself but I doubt lack of drink is stopping people going to matches.

Would the Publicans in Newbridge or Portlaoise be happy with such a move? especially when they are being asked to sponsor and support club teams

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/04/2012 19:18:01    1160820

26/04/2012 19:18:01
dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9817
Do we really need banwagon supporters as in rugby?

Rugby has increased in popularity in the past few years. not due to a bandwagon as so many of you think. Yes the success of munster over the past 12 years or so and leinster over the past 6 years or so has increased support in the sport but other factors have helped increase the popularity of the sport.

And whats totally wrong with bandwagon supporters. They may have came to a sport later than a few but if they follow the team passionately, buy merchandise, attend games, follow and respect their teams and the opposition teams traditions.
No need for a go at rugby

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 26/04/2012 19:42:07    1160857

Yer right ormondbannerman, bandwagon supporters are supporter's nonetheless,
its the same with merceneraries from abroad, they are still players and integral parts
of the teams they play for.

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 26/04/2012 19:58:44    1160884

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 1660

1160857 26/04/2012 19:18:01
dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9817
Do we really need banwagon supporters as in rugby?

Rugby has increased in popularity in the past few years. not due to a bandwagon as so many of you think. Yes the success of munster over the past 12 years or so and leinster over the past 6 years or so has increased support in the sport but other factors have helped increase the popularity of the sport.

And whats totally wrong with bandwagon supporters. They may have came to a sport later than a few but if they follow the team passionately, buy merchandise, attend games, follow and respect their teams and the opposition teams traditions.
No need for a go at rugby

I have nothing against bandwagon supporters myself, but I did notice a particular dislike for them by staunch GAA fans (the taliban) on another thread recently.http://hoganstand.com/OtherSports/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=73271.
my friend from KK holds some particularly juvenile prejudices
I would encourage people to support and partake in each and every sport according to their personal preference.
As you say it's the bandwagon fans that keep the business end of things afloat. The GAA is at a crossroads right now, is it a business or an amateur sports organisation, it's trying to be both

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/04/2012 20:53:11    1160925

of course ormond jumps in with the mention of rugby

shermaninator (USA) - Posts: 285 - 26/04/2012 21:16:57    1160954

Liam O' Neill's idea for May 11th sounds great and should be done every year. I hope they get the schools on board. I forsee a lot of people out supporting their heroes in the bigger counties especially. Fair play to O' Neill. Tús maith.

Culann (Dublin) - Posts: 2306 - 27/04/2012 11:55:20    1161174

26/04/2012 21:16:57
shermaninator
County: USA
Posts: 253

1160954 of course ormond jumps in with the mention of rugby

But i stayed on topic that was being discussed unlike you

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/04/2012 12:09:43    1161194

Culann
County: Dublin
Posts: 188

You will find getting bums on seats is mainly what its about. That should be clear enough. Could I be bold enough to suggest you start a thread on what people would prefer - getting bums on seats or improving the games - if thats what you want to talk about?

My opinion is that they are not mutually exclusive.
There are some dire matches these days. Anyone who went to the Laois Longford champo last year can testify to that.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 27/04/2012 12:19:56    1161202

Culann
County: Dublin
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1161174 Liam O' Neill's idea for May 11th sounds great and should be done every year. I hope they get the schools on board. I forsee a lot of people out supporting their heroes in the bigger counties especially. Fair play to O' Neill. Tús maith


Looks like derrytresk know how to do it

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 27/04/2012 15:37:21    1161454

i work in a sports and the amount tourist that ask me, where can they watch a football game or a coutny team training is unreal.

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 27/04/2012 18:00:44    1161584