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Very interesting read from Martin Breheny today in the Independent about the sectarian abuse given to players from the Rebublic of Ireland from their counterparts in the North. Indeed there is a lot more stories coming about about the behaviour of Northern Irish GAA players and supporters on there trips to the South. It just exposes the utter hypocrisy of the Armagh GAA county board, but what an embarrassing comedown for them since they released the stadium.
During the Troubles, players from the south regularly told stories of being dubbed 'Fenians' (often more colourfully put) during games by a minority of their counterparts from the Six Counties.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/racism-storm-puts-gaa-in-a-quandary-3058010.html
paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 23/03/2012 10:59:49
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we all know it was said, croke park dont want anymore negative press. FACT
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During the Troubles, players from the south regularly told stories of being dubbed 'Fenians' (often more colourfully put) during games by a minority of their counterparts from the Six Counties. __________________________ ha ha ha, thats got to be a wind up, its got to be, please tell me it is!!!!!!!
brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 23/03/2012 11:15:54
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goalpost County: Armagh Posts: 162
1135374 we all know it was said, croke park dont want anymore negative press. FACT
Look its a stunt that has backfired. Nothing more nothing less.
paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 23/03/2012 11:22:00
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Now now Goalpost. Facts need evidence, otherwise there not facts.
georgelee (Louth) - Posts: 523 - 23/03/2012 11:23:42
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brendtheredhand County: Tyrone Posts: 4922
We we would not be as sensitive as the Northern Irish, but there would be a lot more comments like Freestate, Mexican etc etc with a few curse words to spice it up. But sure what about.
paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 23/03/2012 11:30:14
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Strange that the only papers reporting on this are from the North i wonder why that is?
moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 23/03/2012 11:32:51
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Paddyogall
During the Troubles, players from the south regularly told stories of being dubbed 'Fenians' (often more colourfully put) during games by a minority of their counterparts from the Six Counties.
In Ravenhill maybe?
Anyone from the 26 who claims a northern nationalist called him a fenian either derogatory or otherwise is delusional, imaginative and about as truthful as your own PFlynn. Some people need to go back to school and listen in History class this time around.
rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 23/03/2012 11:34:33
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moomoo County: Kerry Posts: 1374
1135400 Strange that the only papers reporting on this are from the North i wonder why that is? ------------------------ Yes indeed moomoo, why is that?
brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 23/03/2012 11:37:40
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rath_togh County: Meath Posts: 159
If you put a F before it or a B after it, it would be quite derogatory. After all given the good friday agreement and the inclusiveness of the GAA, would'nt some GAA players from Northern Ireland appreciate being called British and a warm rendition of God save the Queen?. It how you saying something thats makes it deragatory.
P Flynn is from Meath stock by the way
paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 23/03/2012 11:41:40
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brendtheredhand County: Tyrone Posts: 4924
1135406 moomoo County: Kerry Posts: 1374
1135400 Strange that the only papers reporting on this are from the North i wonder why that is? ------------------------ Yes indeed moomoo, why is that?
There hardly going to be bias anyway....
moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 23/03/2012 11:43:33
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Enlighten me so good man. Why would one nationalist call another a fenian? Under what circumstances? When you get into verbals with a fellow Mayo man do you call him a Mayo b*****d, a Galway man a West of Ireland b*****d, a Roscommon b*****d? Am I a typical male b*****d?
P Flynn is from Meath stock by the way It was the people of Mayo voted him in, he's yours and you're welcome to him
rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 23/03/2012 11:54:13
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paddyogall County: Mayo Posts: 4688
1135372 Very interesting read from Martin Breheny today in the Independent about the sectarian abuse given to players from the Rebublic of Ireland from their counterparts in the North. Indeed there is a lot more stories coming about about the behaviour of Northern Irish GAA players and supporters on there trips to the South. It just exposes the utter hypocrisy of the Armagh GAA county board, but what an embarrassing comedown for them since they released the stadium.
During the Troubles, players from the south regularly told stories of being dubbed 'Fenians' (often more colourfully put) during games by a minority of their counterparts from the Six Counties.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/racism-storm-puts-gaa-in-a-quandary-3058010.html
One GAA man calling another a fenian; you really have got to be kidding Paddyogall, right?
muffin (Antrim) - Posts: 128 - 23/03/2012 12:00:07
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Well why do they use the partitionist phrases freestaters and Mexicans? its an ingrained sense of bitterness they have. Make no mistake about it, people from Northern Ireland have a severe mistrust/dislike of people from the Republic of Ireland, sure just look at Ulsterwhines posts. Ulster GAA invented trash talking particularly in recent times, and now that the shoe is on the other foot they whinge about it.
paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 23/03/2012 12:01:52
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Some of the southern lads here make me sick. We're all irish. This is a political thread and has no place on the hoganstand.
daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 23/03/2012 12:04:29
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muffin County: Antrim Posts: 55
Well Martin Breheny wrote that, but I think he mixed up the term with freestate B*****d myself. But this still happened and cannot be denied. One wonders from the statement what abuse did the Armagh players give to Laois? the statement quite clearly says that there was abuse from both sides. It must be something equally as bad giving the embarrassing come down.
paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 23/03/2012 12:12:15
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1135180 Being called British is an insult?...its actually preposterous!!!!, laughable!!. If the Ulster teams want to be treated the same in the South,then they need to get over the whole west brit southerner crap that still wafts from northern supporters. Incredible as this may sound, i was among several people who left a pub over barstaff being insulted by "supporters" of a Northern county(after a qualifier match) feeling aggrieved because the bar was supporting Holland in the 2010 World Cup. William of Orange was Dutch you see, and apparently "true" Irish would never be associated with an Orange "*******" like him....grow up, and get over it.
What part of Britain are you from?
OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 23/03/2012 12:26:33
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Paddyogall Did you read the full article from Martin Breheny or just select that part. Breheny's article was fairly balanced he mentioned the sledging used by both.
People with agenda's..for a Northern natonalist to call someone from the 26 Fenian is laughable in the extreme. We get called it ad nausuem from birth. I always considered it a badge of honour certainly not an insult. For what it's worth none of it has any place for me.
Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 23/03/2012 12:40:59
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This a very sad sorry state of affairs and really it is us the GAA community who are are losing out - the rugby community are laughing at us.... 1. Lets face comments are made on all pitches which are unpleasant to wind up an opponent...... 2. But as an antrim gael said when an opponent shouts ridicious comments like that , they don't know the history of the player , if his immediate family, friend work mate was killed in the conflict...... 3. As an armagh gael i don't know yet what i'm more embarressed by, 'the laoise man comments, Croke park's actions or the media leek.... 4. Lets face it the Laois man was wrong, but there are proper channels to go through........... unless they went through them and weren't listened... 5. I would know Paul Duggan the Armagh Co. Chairman, he's a quite, educationed man who thinks first, pauses, thinks again and then acts - this whole eposide appears aknee -jerk reaction but behind the senens there appears more... 6. armagh gaels aren't ant-southern . we take great comfort in that Cork and others stood with us in our condemnation of the Security forces when our pitches, players, school teams were harressed, beaten, shot, blown -up or taken over........
cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1691 - 23/03/2012 12:45:28
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Kickpass Being called British is an insult?
Yes it is. I'm Irish, Im not British and I never will be. My inclusion in an artificial state controlled by the British is was a crime and injustice when it was done under the threat of "immediate and terrible war" and it remains and injustice now. As part of the the peace process we are will to undo that injustice in a peaceful manner. But undo it we will.
Well said Sir delighted to hear a Down man getting passionate about this abomination. I might I add the threat and actual use of violence to deny the democratic rights of the people of Ireland.
Tyronetim (Tyrone) - Posts: 1254 - 23/03/2012 12:47:05
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