Lockjaw

We've all been called free-state _______'s by some idiot at some stage but that's not the point. The point is the player in question should have been reported for what he said. If you are from Donegal as your username suggests the man was at least 50% correct

rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 21/03/2012 10:33:58    1133750

EXTRACT FROM JOE KERNAN'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY


One of the few times as Armagh manager I really lost my temper as manager was in a league game against Laois in Portlaoise.

A bit of a scuffle broke out near the sideline with players and officials becoming involved. It wasn't anything too serious and ended fairly quickly, but not before one Laois man, who was part of the official party, had a right go at us.

He squared up to John Rafferty and called us 'orange b*****ds'. Now, on a league table of stupidity that would take some beating and, while I should have laughed at it, I was infuriated. I felt like laying him out with a punch, but managed to restrain myself.
In fairness to Liam Kearns, who was managing Laois at the time, he came to me afterwards and apologised. He didn't have to, because he hadn't done or said anything wrong and could hardly be blamed for someone else's stupidity.
It was an isolated incident, but it showed that even in a new century there are still people who have no real grasp of the relationship between North and South.
- Joe Kernan

laois have form for this and whatever player it was should be given a lengthty ban.

flourman (None) - Posts: 104 - 21/03/2012 10:34:02    1133751

Looking forward to Joe Duffy's radio show about it!!!

I am not surprised at all about this after all the same thing happened to Kieran Kelly from Antrim hurlers a few years ago in Galway.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 21/03/2012 10:37:54    1133757

It is bewildering that a fellow Gael would use such venom against a fellow nationalist. Is it the case that such remarks are a way to wind us up in the North or do some players from the south actually believe Northern Nationalists are in fact Unionists in disguise? lol, funny stuff. Whats next, an afgan will also be called a Brit?

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 21/03/2012 10:41:43    1133761

I don't understand this "us and them" mentality, we're all Irishmen playing an Irish sport. It's nothing short of disgraceful to see this carry on, if it is not stamped out it'll drive a wedge between Ulster players and the rest of the country.

But this isn't the first time I've come across a situation like this, and surprise surprise Laois were the culprits the last time as well. Kevin Cassidy playing a league game a few years ago claimed he was called a "British ba****d" by a Laois player. Intelligence how are you?

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 21/03/2012 10:45:56    1133768

The GAA should show a bit of consistency regarding halftime incidents now and take home home advantage out of Maryborough for their next test match.

rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 21/03/2012 10:50:04    1133776

Sergeant, players from lots of counties say stupid stuff to rile opponents. Having said that, this is pretty pathetic and does not say much for the intelligence of the mouth in question. Mind you, it is not as bad as some of the really personal stuff I have heard has been thrown at players, including references to recent family bereavements.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 21/03/2012 10:51:10    1133778

Barrowsider
County: Carlow
Posts: 350

1133720
disgraceful if true, from the county that pi**ed on the powder in 1798

Graiguecullen will always be Laois pal, we will never turn our back on our own. You're lucky we dont march in and take carla town off ye.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 21/03/2012 10:53:07    1133780

laois have done this before, FACT!! Absolute disgrace to the GAA. time to name and shame the culprits here.. and they should never play football again. but in fairness its not the first southern team to resort to this behaviour, if they knew their history they wouldn't be saying it! cant wait to laois travel to armagh some year in the national league!

goalpost (Armagh) - Posts: 215 - 21/03/2012 10:53:52    1133782

Sergeant_Slash
County: Cavan
Posts: 1377

1133768 I don't understand this "us and them" mentality, we're all Irishmen playing an Irish sport.

Exactly how I feel, that's why it amazes me when things like this happen. I'd say if he went to Cullyhanna or Crossmaglen and started repeating his remarks he wouldn't last long before he'd be sent with his tail between his legs.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 21/03/2012 10:54:06    1133784

Is this what has made Laois the great GAA force that they are today?

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 21/03/2012 10:56:32    1133788

Joe Kernan's autobiography talks about this in detail and funnily enough he does single out Laois in his book as being particularly bad for it also. It's hard to imagine that a player who was vice-captain of the last international rules panel would have to listen to this sort of thing though.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 21/03/2012 10:56:57    1133789

excellent post rath_togh ;-)

hurlingdub
County: Dublin
Posts: 3753

Mind you, it is not as bad as some of the really personal stuff I have heard has been thrown at players, including references to recent family bereavements

I cannot believe my eyes hurlingdub, these people need to be removed from our organisation.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 21/03/2012 10:58:21    1133790

Yep. It has happened. I know of a Wexford footballer who was the victim of that a few years ago. Heard it from a close family member of his.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 21/03/2012 11:00:35    1133793

First of all, lets be clear - these allegations are 100% UNsubstantiated and are clearly the remarks of a team who couldnt take their beating fair and square like men. Theyve gone off crying and making up lies to distract from the fact that they waltzed down to Portlaoise thinking they would pick up 2 handy points - and got whipped.

Second of all - the Armagh CB clearly fail to understand basic concepts such as racism and sectarianism as evidenced by their little rant about racial abuse. Frankly im appalled by such poor grasp of vocabulary that they somehow can equate their nonsensical claims with racism. Its an insult to genuine victims of racism.

The sooner the better Armagh can apologise for these lies and we can put this sorry incident behind us.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 21/03/2012 11:01:41    1133794

horse

your comment there was quite laughable, catch a grip.. you know as well as every other person whether they be from armagh or neutral what was said at the weekend.

goalpost (Armagh) - Posts: 215 - 21/03/2012 11:05:45    1133799

Horse
County: Laois
Posts: 921

1133794 First of all, lets be clear - these allegations are 100% UNsubstantiated and are clearly the remarks of a team who couldnt take their beating fair and square like men. Theyve gone off crying and making up lies to distract from the fact that they waltzed down to Portlaoise thinking they would pick up 2 handy points - and got whipped.

Second of all - the Armagh CB clearly fail to understand basic concepts such as racism and sectarianism as evidenced by their little rant about racial abuse. Frankly im appalled by such poor grasp of vocabulary that they somehow can equate their nonsensical claims with racism. Its an insult to genuine victims of racism.

The sooner the better Armagh can apologise for these lies and we can put this sorry incident behind us.

You are saying that these claims are unsubstantiated, therefore they are devoid of fact but yet you state that they are lies. How do you know they are lies if they are unsubstantiated?

I would expect someone who was appalled by people having a poor grasp of vocabulary to be able to construct sentences without simple grammatical mistakes.

I can also assure you that Armagh people are very aware of the concepts of racism and sectarianism as we live with it on a daily basis.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 21/03/2012 11:12:43    1133808

If that's your honest opinion Horse I really feel sorry for you. Either way let's not go all Suarez on it and start complicating this with a footballing issue. I think you might find everyone else including your manager Justin McNulty will see things a little differently.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 21/03/2012 11:14:04    1133810

Horse
County: Laois
Posts: 922

Not everyone is as versed or articulated as well as yourselves in Queen Mary's language and clinging onto the fact that a coach (not the County Board) used the incorrect adjective to describe the remarks used by the terms used by the player is pathetic. What was said was wrong and was said to draw a reaction from McKeever. I don't know why you think Sectarianism has anything to do with the argument either because as far as we know - to date - McKeever's religious persuasion wasn't referred to in the half-time slur.

rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 21/03/2012 11:21:59    1133812

This is the same Laois that were crying like babies about Alan Brogan pointing at a scoreboard a few years back! Remember that!!

Anyways in defence of Laois, if what I heard is true, it was a Laois player, but not a Laois man........if u get me.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 21/03/2012 11:23:05    1133813