Have we all been duped into believing that Dublin hurling is better than it actually is? So far their league results this year have been poor. A poor Cork team could have beaten them by a lot more on the weekend.

With the miilions that was pumped into the structures in the county for the last 10 years they should be turning that into championship silverware at senior level. I for one don't think they are capable of it and they don't have the players either. It's only a fad. Give it 5 or 10 years and Wexford and Offaly will replace them as the second team in Leinster again.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 15/03/2012 09:11:25    1129812

daytona11
County: Kildare
Posts: 1851

1129812
Have we all been duped into believing that Dublin hurling is better than it actually is? So far their league results this year have been poor. A poor Cork team could have beaten them by a lot more on the weekend.

With the miilions that was pumped into the structures in the county for the last 10 years they should be turning that into championship silverware at senior level. I for one don't think they are capable of it and they don't have the players either. It's only a fad. Give it 5 or 10 years and Wexford and Offaly will replace them as the second team in Leinster again.

you obviously know your stuff about hurling daytona.
National league champions.
within a whisker of an AI final appearance without two of their most influential players.
probably the most consistent underage county after galway and KK. conveyor belt stuff, look at danny suttcliffe last weekend?!
leinster champs elect only for being unfortunate to be coming good at the same time as the greatest team of all time are hurling.
A host of players who would grace any county jersey, most of whom are still only kids.

I think they'll win the senior AI within the next three years. I hope they do, their supporters are salt of the earth.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 15/03/2012 11:20:52    1129901

Funny thing about the opening post here is that if you replace the words 'Dublin hurling' with 'kildare football' the mesg reads the exact same!!!

Uncanny isnt it!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael

Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 15/03/2012 11:25:16    1129905

Thanks for the compliments hurlinspuds!


Daytona, Dublin were sluggish against Galway but were sharper against Cork and just lost what was an excellent and exciting game. There's no panic this end I can assure you and I'm confident that we'll still be hurling at least in August.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 15/03/2012 11:36:18    1129912

What an outrageous and stupid post. Hurling takes 10-15 years to get to the level of KK/Tipp when starting from where Dublin were, Dublin have done remarkably well and they would have beaten Tipp last year had Keaney and Brady being fit.
As we are now finding in Wexford, when your standards slip it takes years to get back to that level. The work has being going on in Wexford since 2003 when the first development squads were created and only now are we starting to see signs of improvement, even if 3 years under Colm Bonner didnt help matters.
What Dublin have done deserves great credit and should be used as an example for where you must start in any such project.
And dont forget, it's only March and teams are all experimenting. Your also forgetting that Division 1A is so competitive that it is going to be difficult to stay in it.
I hope your right though about Wexford replacing them though!!

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/03/2012 11:38:13    1129913

He's wuming don't mind him.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 15/03/2012 11:47:56    1129917

sad and very stupid post by the op,thread should be closed.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 15/03/2012 11:59:19    1129930

No matter what I say, I don't think I can better what any of the previous posters have said in response to this pretty daft thread (which appears to be based on only a couple of league results) but I'll give it a go

Dublin hurling is no myth. 10 years ago, they were nowhere. But after all the time, money and resources put in, look at them now - one of the best teams in the country and the only team that almost bridged a gap in last year's championship. No one came close to KK/Tipp as Dublin did. And as already stated, they're the current league champions. But for a opportunistic goal in the semi, they could have contested the AI final last year.

So not only have they risen through the ranks, they have shown any number of other counties what time and commitment can do in bringing hurling to the fore. And for that reason, I actually hope they win a Leinster and/or All Ireland in the very near future - just as long as they don't meet Wexford along the way of course :-) - because they deserve it for all the work they've done, not to mention the message it would send to the rest of us

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 15/03/2012 12:05:40    1129941

I wouldn't call Dublin's progress over the last few years a myth. Their progress has been tangible. They have the ability to win an All-Ireland over the next few years. I hope that they can at least win Leinster this year.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3027 - 15/03/2012 12:08:55    1129945

OP is clearly not a hurling man/woman.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 15/03/2012 12:21:58    1129959

Once Dublin stay up and use the League to have a look at a number of new players then the National League will have served it's purpose for Daly. They won the League last year and while it was great for their development at the time winning it again this year shouldn't be a priority.

Staying up will suffice and then build towards a tilt at the Championship which as always is the true measure of a county's standing. Dublin would have probably gained more from running Tipperary close in a tight All-Ireland Semi-Final than winning the League last year. Whether they have enough about them to go one step further this year is debatable but that has to be the target. If not this year, then next year. A couple of League defeats in February and March is neither here nor there in the wider scheme of things.

eviemonkey (Cork) - Posts: 308 - 15/03/2012 12:30:45    1129968

We're here to stay daytona lad. Better get used to the idea.

We may not win an All-Ireland but we'll be competitive at the very least. We won't be going back to the bad old days anytime soon.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 15/03/2012 14:15:48    1130065

Daytona11 even if everything you said about Dublin Hurling was true (and I don't think it is) the Dubs could still say that they've done everything possible to develop hurling within the county. I wouldn't be too eager to criticise them unless I could say the same about my own county.

kickpass (Down) - Posts: 208 - 15/03/2012 14:38:19    1130088

I think Daly has learned from last year. Dublin peaked in the league final against Kilkenny, players getting injured didn't help but this year I'd imagine Daly's plan is to have them peaking around June / July in time to Face Kilkenny.

They'll give Kilkenny a good rattle in the next game, don't think they'll win but if worst comes to worst they will beat Waterford to stay in 1A.

Remember people were writing off Kilkenny last year, foolish people, but they were still written off.

Footballforever (UK) - Posts: 92 - 15/03/2012 14:49:29    1130106

Eviemonkey and Footballforever have it. Objective in league is to prepare for the Summer. Alongside that is the battle (apparently going better than it was) to get the long term injuries sorted out. Next Sunday could be good as it is (hopefully) a rehearsal for the big one in the Summer.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 15/03/2012 14:54:52    1130111

Snufalufagus
County: Dublin
Posts: 4379

1129905 Funny thing about the opening post here is that if you replace the words 'Dublin hurling' with 'kildare football' the mesg reads the exact same!!!

Uncanny isnt it!

Regards,

Snufalufagus....Laochra Gael


Well spotted

Rebel.Og (Cork) - Posts: 519 - 15/03/2012 15:01:53    1130116

My genuine concern for Dublin hurling is that they go on and dominate the next decade. They have consistently beaten KK at underage for the last few years, their club and particularly underage stucture is the envy of all and they have the money, population and dedicated volunteers. The only reason I can see that they mightn't be successful is if the football folk in Dublin start a backlash when more and more kids and players turn to hurling over football.

onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts: 800 - 15/03/2012 15:12:45    1130130

Biggest issue we still have is the number of players out injured. With one going down it looks like we will have to just take Waterford to stay up, and thats all we need to do this year in the League, stay League 1.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 15/03/2012 18:15:14    1130327

What's the dubs best team with everyone fit?

are there any additions to their panel from last years under 21s and minors?? o'conghaile, kilkenny?

1 maguire
2 corcoran
3 kelly
4 Brady(?)
5 Durkan/hiney (depends on what hiney comes back?! when is he due back?) o'brien?
6 Boland
7 mc caffrey(?)
8 rushe
9 sutcliffe (based on last weekend...is he that good all the time??)
10 O'carroll (will he make it?)
11 o'dwyer (his best position easily)
12 keaney (when is he back?)
13 dotsy (?)
14 treacy
15 p ryan

who am i leaving out? who should i leave out?
some panel.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 15/03/2012 21:46:57    1130522

kilkenny would be starting in the hf line if he committed but at the end of the day young kilkenny is a footballer first and foremost

stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 15/03/2012 21:58:08    1130536