Rubbish pplocal.You have to weigh passes in hurlin too,otherwise the sliotar wont fined its target (you might hit it a mile over the intended recipients head).Posts may be 6.5 metres wide but a lot of points are hit from acute angles,where they would narrow from the attackers viewpoint.
Also,in golf and snooker you can take a minute or two to relax and compose yourself before taking a shot.In hurling you have to think and hit within a timeframe of about a half a second.
Many of the great hurling players can think a few moves ahead of their opponent.When you have the ball and there are three defenders converging on you you have to think pretty quickly.Do you think the great hurling players just leather the ball?No way.They know well what theyre doing with the sliotar.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 05/03/2012 15:28:24    1123090

Ah that old chestnut, the reason Hurling isn't popular is because it's too difficult to play. Complete rubbish of course. Give anyone a Hurl, a sliotar and a couple of weeks and they'd be able to whack it with the best of them. But if that gives you some crumbs of comfort as Hurling's irreversible decline gathers momentum then who am I to judge

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 05/03/2012 15:30:05    1123093

Not sure why everyone is biting with this guys silly comments!
Gaelic football played well is a grand game, when played the way it is now by most teams id prefer the premiership and thats saying something!
Hurling is the one game that says we are Irish and is unique to this fine land, not a hybrid game between basketball and rugby otherwise known as gaelic football

bigtomsbreeks (Down) - Posts: 130 - 05/03/2012 15:35:41    1123100

Offaly, Galway, Tipp, even Clare and Waterford are counties to be truly admired, small enough populations/budgets but can still compete at both codes at some decent level

No offence tickman but I'd rather be very successful at one sport than decent and win nothing in both. Not saying that about Kildare but in general.

Footballforever (UK) - Posts: 92 - 05/03/2012 15:45:29    1123106

05/03/2012 13:09:48
lasttoknow
County: Tyrone
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1122932 ormondbannerman
County: Clare
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05/03/2012 12:51:15
pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 4788

1122914 The sport involves hitting a ball as hard as you can with a stick, I'm sure it's good craic to play but let's not pretend it's in any way skillful. Gaelic football is and that's why it's so much more popular. Counties like KK, Waterford, Tipp realised the would never be good enough to win Sam Maguire's so settled for a sport only about 5 counties actually care about. Their Hurling All-Ireland's are worthless I'm afraid to say

Hehehehehe
Football more skillful than hurling..... feeling ok pp? hurling is the much more skillful(please god you are messing and taking the p*ss)

Don't worry too much about him, he only seems to raise his head where he has a chance to be negative in any way whatsoever to Hurling (for someone who has little interest in it might I add). Comments from such a person really lack any praise, he might have his own opinion, but many of little fact.

I do have an interest in hurling, quite a big one actually, and i much prefer hurling to gaelic football as hurling is a much more skillful sport

fwiw most of my posts are full of fact.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/03/2012 15:50:18    1123112

Give anyone a Hurl, a sliotar and a couple of weeks and they'd be able to whack it with the best of them

I've just noticed this thread now. Who is pplocal and does he know what hurling actually is. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the comment above. A couple of weeks to be as good as Kelly, Canning, Shefflin who have trained their whole life since they started school? Must be a WUM and a very bad one at that.

Outsider222 (UK) - Posts: 95 - 05/03/2012 15:52:27    1123114

Coming from a County who are actually half decent at both, if Kilkenny want to play hurling and not play football then leave them be. If they started to win both people who be on here complaining that they don't take camogie and ladies football seriously.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 05/03/2012 16:06:18    1123129

Its an old chestnut,but a valid one pplocal.In a secondary school you can introduce rugby,soccer ,gaelic or basket ball to a group of first years and theyll get the hang of it after a few sessions.Introduce them to hurling and i guarantee itll be about three years before they can play it to a proper level.Thats why hurling is finding it difficult to cope.Not many kids will have the patience to keep at it.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 05/03/2012 16:16:33    1123139

pplocal
County: Tyrone

Catch a grip fella..


And where's the up-roar for the struggling weaker hurling counties get hiddings. GAA is a football association

wise_guy (Tyrone) - Posts: 1584 - 05/03/2012 20:21:45    1123364

pplocal
Your one gas man il give you that. You really have brightened up my day reading the total waffle your harping on about. btw my club played a Tyrone club in the All Ireland Junior hurling final 2 years ago and those boys didn't just leather the ball as hard as they could. they done themselves there club and county proud.
As for the original question, Kilkenny don't have anyone else at there level. Its up to the Kilkenny county board weather or not they want to invest in football and get there county team up to a competitive standard. It can be done, Limerick and Waterford would be two examples

Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 752 - 06/03/2012 10:53:39    1123533

like nicky brennan said, clubs have to get more behind it

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 06/03/2012 11:12:53    1123546

Lads pp is on a wind up and he's got most of us hook line and sinker. Calm down.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/03/2012 11:29:04    1123555

I think it's a debate worth having, the question is do you use the carrot or the stick when dealing with counties like Kilkenny. Do you offer financial incentives for better football performances or do you punish the county board for failing to invest in football, perhaps by banning the Hurler's from all competitions for a number of years? I think the GAA is trying to move towards a situation where all 32 counties are competitive at football and this wonderfully unpredictable tournament gets even better. In doing so Hurling will have to phased out, we have already seen ample evidence that it is dying a slow death

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 06/03/2012 12:47:45    1123629

If Cavan withdraw their senior hurling team so as to concentrate on underage development, perhaps Kilkenny should do the same with their senior & U-21 footballers? By the sounds of it there's a lot more football being played in Kilkenny than there is hurling in Cavan, Longford, Leitrim & Fermanagh anyway!

Obviously it comes as a bit of a culture shock to some from football-based counties to see football being treated as a very poor 2nd to hurling. Normally they're quite content when it happens the other way around!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 06/03/2012 13:33:56    1123675

I would like to know why Hoganstand allow pplocal to come on and spout such utter rubbish about hurling on a GAA website?

OK he is a wum but his opinion (and it's obvious support by hoganstand) drives a lot of hurling posters away from this website. Talking of getting rid of hurling.....if that is what Hoganstand wants fine.......but I doubt it very much.

Administrators, I hope you have the courtesy to put this up. You have blocked numerous posts which I have made about pplocal yet let all his through. I've never been rude about him despite his ridiculous wumming re hurling. I'm happy to never to post on here again if you don't want to post this up.

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 06/03/2012 16:40:03    1123902

I think it's a dangerous road for Admin to go down if they start picking sides. This is a place to debate the GAA and their job is to ensure that posts stay on topic and nothing insulting is posted. I've adhered to the rules, clearly expressed my position and welcome debate on the matter. I actually think it's great to get the views from a KK native on the subject. Do you not think more should be done for football in Kilkenny? Does it worry you to see the decline of Hurling? Would you agree that a small county like Kilkenny concentrates on Hurling knowing that they would struggle in a competition with more than 4 or 5 contenders?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 06/03/2012 16:54:03    1123914

Its not like the Kilkenny hurlers looked at football and decided,"a the hurling will be easier" pplocal.Its a cultural thing there.Hurling is just more popular,like rugby in New Zealand or cricket in certain parts of England or rugby in the south of France.If its so easy to win the hurling how come my county hasnt won one in so long,or Offaly/Antrim/Clare etc.Ill tell you why,because like it or not,this Kilkenny team is awesome.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 06/03/2012 17:08:08    1123931

pplocal,maybe new ezaland only concentrate on rugby because there is less competition,or maybe Rory McIlroy only concentrated on golf because there was too much competition in the local soccer club.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 06/03/2012 17:13:27    1123939

pplocal,
There has been 101 under age club gaelic football matches played in Kilkenny already this year. There is plenty being done at under age level. I bet that is more than the entire Tyrone hurling club fixtures. Plenty is doen to promote football. There are huge crowds at the under age development camps. But as for adults, the interest isn't there. There is more interest in junior soccer at adult level in Kilkenny and even with that we couldn't keep a league of ireland team out of lack of interest.

We play hurling. We live for hurling. It may not be your cup of tea but it is ours. And even if we are left the only county in Ireland playing it (which I doubt) we will still love it. And we will nourish it as long as we live. If football stalwarts have a problem with that so be it. But as long as a Kilkenny person breathes, there will be life in hurling.

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 06/03/2012 17:45:13    1123981

I disagree entirely but I admire your spirit, misplaced as it may be. There's a certain honour in going down the ship

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 06/03/2012 18:16:36    1124024