Why is the suspension only for outside of tyrone? Can these people continue to abuse the gaa, so long as it is in tyrone? The 5 years is nonsense too, the first is a write off, and chances are the second too (teams usually survive one year at least). Lets say they get relegated for year 3 and then win it again, they will have another year in intermediate! The truth is it is unlikely this ban will hinder them more than once, if at all. It is a real cop out. If the gaa are going to punish them, do it right, if they are not then dont. They should have been fined and thrown out of this years competition, and that would have been that.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 09/02/2012 21:30:51    1108834

Why can't the GAA have fixed bans for each likely scenario so when the hearing comes up everyone is aware of the likely penalties before a decision is made. But the way it is done is not transparent and has always had too much leniency in the past towards acts of thuggery. Now I've seen worse scenes at games but I really don't want to see any. I have some sympathy ofr Derrytresk but only a small bit as what they did is wrong and both teams acted in a mob element, not the actions of a sporting team.

bananapublican (Leitrim) - Posts: 878 - 09/02/2012 21:42:23    1108841

well said bananapublican

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 10/02/2012 08:43:11    1108867

I know the GAA are making an example but it seems to me again its more about the media interest than application of the rules. Personally I think its very harsh for Derrytresk.

kerrykerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1779 - 10/02/2012 09:14:41    1108873

RHD you didnt tell the other people from other counties to keep out so therefore my opinion is valid, And I know ladies is another organisation but it is just an example of the thuggery that exists in Tyrone football in all senior codes. Dont worry RHD I dont need cups to make me happy. As long as I see the club doing ok I'm grand. Club Before county.


Orlaith I'm not going to waste much more time on you as I know you have half term holidays coming up but your comment is not valid as its a cheap dig made out of jealousy directly at tyrone. Derry is rife with the problem as well its just not as publicised as your county doesn't come on to anybody radar. As for your club before county statement spoken like a gaa fan from a county that will never win anything again. Bradleys last year and then your done, Gd luck!

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 10/02/2012 09:20:58    1108876

This latest incident is only the tip of the iceberg for TYrone clubs and their supporters, we read of violence at club matches in Tyrone on a regular basis, eg. their League Final, the incidents at the Ladies match, The Ulster Club match in Casement Park in 2005, ( Ref Assaulted), Carrickmore supporter apprehended and banned from matches for 2 years, was out as usual the following week.
I could go on and on, but I won't this page wouldn't have the space.
When Derrytresk played Eire Og from Armagh in Casement Park in this years Ulster Junior Club C'ship, the Eire Og full forward got a straight RED after 1 minute, we all saw what went on except the Ref and Umpires, they were no angels in the Final either, and they then carried on to Portlaoise where it came to an abrupt end for them. Their supporters in Casement Park and at the Final in Armagh were about the worst I ever heard , so I assume this was the same crowd who descended upon Portlaoise.
I have no sympathy for them whatsoever, they got what they deserved, and the old saying " long runs the Fox" comes to mind. Good luck to Clonbur, and hope that FOOTBALL is the winner on the day, but expect plenty of verbals from the Treskies.

sam02 (Tyrone) - Posts: 643 - 10/02/2012 09:45:29    1108881

Another insight into the mindsets and arrogance of Tyrone people, in the Village of Moy, Half Mile from the Armagh border,people from Armagh living in Moy put up their Armagh flags in 2003, they were promptly ripped down by the Gaels of Moy,( but didn't touch the Union Jacks), and in a local pub, they had an Armagh Jersey as their "doormat" and advised patrons to clean their feet on it before entering the Bar.
These same "gaels" come into bars and pubs in Armagh after matches when Tyrone win ( if they lose we dont see them), and have this "in your face" attitude, not nice people !!!!!!! as the people from Dromid found out.

sam02 (Tyrone) - Posts: 643 - 10/02/2012 09:57:24    1108888

WHY aren't Corofin banned from representing Galway for 5 years??? I'm all for the Derrytresk ban but where is the consistency?

changingtosligo (Mayo) - Posts: 75 - 10/02/2012 10:13:18    1108904

It is a ridiculous blanket ban and it is very very harsh for Derrytresk as a club to have to bear. By all means throw the book at the culprits not the team/club.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 10/02/2012 10:27:40    1108914

@changingtosligo

Because The Corofin game was under the Connacht Council so came under them to punish the club whereas once the teams get out of the province, you'll find that anything that happens will fall under the GAA.

I agree with your point though

MidlandBlowin (Longford) - Posts: 66 - 10/02/2012 10:37:45    1108919

10/02/2012 10:27:40
arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 618

1108914 It is a ridiculous blanket ban and it is very very harsh for Derrytresk as a club to have to bear. By all means throw the book at the culprits not the team/club.

Its harsh on those that didnt do anything but the GAA were bound sometime to go very harsh on some club to try get the message accross that behaviour like that displayed by some derrytresk club members is unacceptable and will be severely punished if it occurs. Hopefully we dont see any more scenes like we did that day

Hopefully by punishing the club the members of the club that didnt do anything wrong can turn on those that did nad try get them to change their ways

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/02/2012 10:42:02    1108925

moomoo
County: Kerry
Posts: 1199

1108440 omaghredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3411

1108393
bad.monkey
County: USA
Posts: 2940

1108286 This is not a ban - they will have been promoted to Inter so realistically have zero chance of competing outside of Tyrone for 5 years, the equivalent of banning Norwich from competing in the Champions League for 5 years

Another case of the GAA pretending to tackle a serious problem, really doing so would be far too much effort

You make quite a lot of assumptions there. You assume that Derrytresk will not win the Intermediate championship in Tyrone, despite I suspect knowing very little about Tyrone club football. Although it is unlikely, it is still a possibility. The greater likelihood however is that they will find it tough next year and get relegated thereby returning to junior ranks with players having had a years experience playing at a higher level and very likely to go close in winning the junior championship. Therefore your analogy with Norwich is so far off the mark it is completely irrelevant. The decision itself is I feel quite harsh but I gather it was a trade off in relation to other matters.

If it was the other way around would you be saying the same thing?

Yes!!

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 10/02/2012 10:54:08    1108933

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 941

Its harsh on those that didnt do anything but the GAA were bound sometime to go very harsh on some club to try get the message accross that behaviour like that displayed by some derrytresk club members is unacceptable and will be severely punished if it occurs. Hopefully we dont see any more scenes like we did that day

Hopefully by punishing the club the members of the club that didnt do anything wrong can turn on those that did nad try get them to change their ways

So you believe that scapegoating is the correct way of dealing with this.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 10/02/2012 11:06:10    1108942

While it's unlikely Derrytresk will win the Tyrone Intermediate Championship next year, a club not a million miles away from them managed back-to-back titles not that long ago, so it's not unheard of. I imagine they will appeal this decision and probably get it reduced by a couple of years at least.

EnolaGay (Tyrone) - Posts: 653 - 10/02/2012 11:36:00    1108961

Orlaith
County: Derry
Posts: 4226

1108446 Well when the ladies finals end in bother, The mens finals end in bother and then the All Ireland semi finals end in bother its becoming more and more popular in Tyrone club games., I think it was about time that the GAA acted

Sin an túlán ag tabhairt tóin dubh ar an phota!!

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 10/02/2012 12:20:18    1108989

sam02
County: Armagh
Posts: 641

1108888 Another insight into the mindsets and arrogance of Tyrone people, in the Village of Moy, Half Mile from the Armagh border,people from Armagh living in Moy put up their Armagh flags in 2003, they were promptly ripped down by the Gaels of Moy,( but didn't touch the Union Jacks),

it's all about respect

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 10/02/2012 16:29:02    1109214

10/02/2012 12:20:18
omaghredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3415

1108989
Orlaith
County: Derry
Posts: 4226

1108446 Well when the ladies finals end in bother, The mens finals end in bother and then the All Ireland semi finals end in bother its becoming more and more popular in Tyrone club games., I think it was about time that the GAA acted


Sin an túlán ag tabhairt tóin dubh ar an phota!!
Bhuel conas a rinne siad a fháil ar aréir? Ádh mór sna anyways deiridh, Tá brón orm go raibh mé díreach tar éis a fhoirceannadh tyronies tú suas, is breá liom é. Níl mé go olc hehe

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 10/02/2012 16:53:34    1109236

10/02/2012 11:06:10
Tom1916
County: Armagh
Posts: 1255

1108942 ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 941

Its harsh on those that didnt do anything but the GAA were bound sometime to go very harsh on some club to try get the message accross that behaviour like that displayed by some derrytresk club members is unacceptable and will be severely punished if it occurs. Hopefully we dont see any more scenes like we did that day

Hopefully by punishing the club the members of the club that didnt do anything wrong can turn on those that did nad try get them to change their ways

So you believe that scapegoating is the correct way of dealing with this.

Yes, it it leads to less cases like this in the future

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/02/2012 17:12:47    1109243

A kangaroo court in the best North Korean style and no wonder Derrytresk are so angry. They have been stitched up like a turkey big time and a very easy target for those within the GAA and Southern media with their own narrow, bitter agenda; they should walk away from the competition. It is also quite shamefully obvious that they have been hung out to dry and take the rap for every team that has been involved in trouble by some within their own county and the Ulster Council. Shame on some Ulster GAA people for burying their heads and letting Derrytresk be the county and provincial scapegoat.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9818 - 10/02/2012 19:22:30    1109305