From Ulster & All Ireland competition, according to TV3 news.

I didn't comment much on the other thread about this but I did agree with those who felt it should be dealt with by appropriate punishment

But 5 years seems very extreme, a dark day for the club's supporters.

Is a ban of this length normal? Has there been such severe bans before?

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 08/02/2012 21:49:12    1108243

Very harsh, handbags in my opinion

Crawley_JuniorD (Meath) - Posts: 211 - 08/02/2012 21:56:46    1108253

It wont matter alot because Derrytresk will be moving out of Junio football next year and will be unlikely to win the Tyrone Championship never mind any ulster

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 09/02/2012 08:40:53    1108276

I agree they should have been punished but this is extreme and against the promotion of gaelic games. The people involved in fighting should be banned for appropriate lengths of time and that's it, the community and club of Derrytresk (or Dromid) should not be punished for the actions of a few. Absolutely scandalous decision.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 09/02/2012 08:52:49    1108280

Its a ban that is harsh enough, but should be a big warning to clubs that they cant overreact in any way to what happens on the pitch be it a fight, a refs decision or whatever and if they do they will be punished severely

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/02/2012 09:02:05    1108283

This is not a ban - they will have been promoted to Inter so realistically have zero chance of competing outside of Tyrone for 5 years, the equivalent of banning Norwich from competing in the Champions League for 5 years

Another case of the GAA pretending to tackle a serious problem, really doing so would be far too much effort

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 09/02/2012 09:14:00    1108286

As they won junior this year they'll move up to the Intermediate Tyrone championship I presume so unlikely they'll be back in Ulster or the All-Ireland series in the next couple of years anyhow.

spyboy (Antrim) - Posts: 343 - 09/02/2012 09:19:22    1108289

It seems extreme and is unfair on those members of the club who didnt act out of order but the GAA are using this case as an example that the behaviour seen that day is out of order and cannot in any way be seen to happen ever again

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/02/2012 09:38:40    1108298

This will matter alot as they will most likely get relegated in next year or 2 as a small club. Its the principle anyway this is a disgrace

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 09/02/2012 11:06:57    1108342

Go n-eiri an t-adh leat. Derrytresk

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 09/02/2012 11:33:59    1108367

bad.monkey
County: USA
Posts: 2940

1108286 This is not a ban - they will have been promoted to Inter so realistically have zero chance of competing outside of Tyrone for 5 years, the equivalent of banning Norwich from competing in the Champions League for 5 years

Another case of the GAA pretending to tackle a serious problem, really doing so would be far too much effort

You make quite a lot of assumptions there. You assume that Derrytresk will not win the Intermediate championship in Tyrone, despite I suspect knowing very little about Tyrone club football. Although it is unlikely, it is still a possibility. The greater likelihood however is that they will find it tough next year and get relegated thereby returning to junior ranks with players having had a years experience playing at a higher level and very likely to go close in winning the junior championship. Therefore your analogy with Norwich is so far off the mark it is completely irrelevant. The decision itself is I feel quite harsh but I gather it was a trade off in relation to other matters.

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 09/02/2012 12:01:25    1108393

disguating pandering to the kingdom and of course pat more than likely stuck his oar in someway along the line . derrytresk abu .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 09/02/2012 12:17:09    1108413

It was the right call in my opinion, scenes like this are no good for promoting the gaa, it only makes it seem like a backward sport. There should be heavier punishments in my opinion as well for striking another player, players should not have to worry about being assaulted when playing a match. Don't know how people can defend these sort of actions, I want to see football played, not a royal rumble. Well done the gaa!

as_ky (Kerry) - Posts: 535 - 09/02/2012 12:21:00    1108416

Its gas - lads spend all year whinin about the poor discipline in the games, then when the gaa try to take a hard line everyone is up in arms.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 09/02/2012 12:33:00    1108424

as bad as the punishments are and they are pretty severe at this stage i think everyone would agree that the real problem is consistancy, it doesnt exist within the gaa, they just pick out certain teams and players and they get the whole coverage and punishments, look at connolly a few weeks back, how he never got a suspension il never know. very harsh on derrytresk, i think the gaa are making an example of them but i expected them to allow more players to return, usually they fold in those situations, but with a late appeal still to be had, could happen!

LiosTuathail (Kerry) - Posts: 216 - 09/02/2012 12:35:13    1108426

as_ky
County: Kerry
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1108416 It was the right call in my opinion, scenes like this are no good for promoting the gaa, it only makes it seem like a backward sport. There should be heavier punishments in my opinion as well for striking another player, players should not have to worry about being assaulted when playing a match. Don't know how people can defend these sort of actions, I want to see football played, not a royal rumble. Well done the gaa!

Would four weeks not be enough for Declan.

Sparrowhawk (Tyrone) - Posts: 107 - 09/02/2012 12:40:39    1108431

The fact that Derrytresk will be moving from junior to Inter or whatever that apparently reduces the effectiveness of this ban cuts no ice with me, personally.

This one team's transition is not the only issue here, but also the length & severity of this ban. What if a similar incident occurs at a AI championship match - what then? Do we ban an entire county from championship football for 5 years? Can you imagine what a scandal that would be?

I have no doubt in mind that appropriate punishment should have been laid down, perhaps a year but 5 years seems crazy and is only inviting a troublesome can of worms, in my view

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 09/02/2012 12:48:16    1108438

omaghredhand
County: Tyrone
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1108393
bad.monkey
County: USA
Posts: 2940

1108286 This is not a ban - they will have been promoted to Inter so realistically have zero chance of competing outside of Tyrone for 5 years, the equivalent of banning Norwich from competing in the Champions League for 5 years

Another case of the GAA pretending to tackle a serious problem, really doing so would be far too much effort

You make quite a lot of assumptions there. You assume that Derrytresk will not win the Intermediate championship in Tyrone, despite I suspect knowing very little about Tyrone club football. Although it is unlikely, it is still a possibility. The greater likelihood however is that they will find it tough next year and get relegated thereby returning to junior ranks with players having had a years experience playing at a higher level and very likely to go close in winning the junior championship. Therefore your analogy with Norwich is so far off the mark it is completely irrelevant. The decision itself is I feel quite harsh but I gather it was a trade off in relation to other matters.

If it was the other way around would you be saying the same thing?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 09/02/2012 12:51:20    1108440

Well when the ladies finals end in bother, The mens finals end in bother and then the All Ireland semi finals end in bother its becoming more and more popular in Tyrone club games., I think it was about time that the GAA acted. If people commit the crime they will just have to serve the time. No point crying now about it. Should have thought about all this when they were dishing out the punches etc.

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 09/02/2012 12:59:58    1108446

gigoer
County: Wexford
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1108438

Excellent point. If this sanction can not apply over all levels and codes then it is flawed. If say Kerry, in a championship match, were adjudged to misbehave to the same degree, would it be fair to exclude them from all the major competitions for five years. Not even moomoo would be in favour of that. Therefore it needs revisiting before the precedent is set.

Sparrowhawk (Tyrone) - Posts: 107 - 09/02/2012 13:01:24    1108450