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28/01/2012 17:16:25
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1101813 speaking as a GAA/soccer fan in England the GAA going pro would be a disaster
you have only got to look at how soccer has become all about money, the players only care about money and the top counties in gaa would completely dominate financially just like the big clubs do in soccer
the GAA is a unique and brilliant organisation that brings untold social and community benefits which would defiantly be lost in it went pro
I dont see how the community benefits would disappear if some of the best players in the country got rewarded financially for all the sacrifices they put on or everyones enjoyment and pleasure. They all play for the honour of the jersey and pride of their area, county, parish etc but the top players, coaches are prob putting in 100 hour weeks between all the training, matches on top of work college so deserve some form of financial reward
Comparing to english soccer is a nul point as if players, coaches were paid theres no chance in hell of anyone involved in the GAA getting anyway near that kind of money
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/01/2012 17:56:41
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Also,even though the gelic games are firmly rooted at the top of the table (for me) in terms of sport I follow,I dont think its fair to say that soccer players only care about money.Many of them are very driven and dedicated to succeed with the clubs they play for,even if they may be happy to move on when a better offer arrives.
I also think that while many Gaa players love representing the clubs/counties they play for,Im sure they too enjoy the personal glory involved with being part of an all ireland winning team (the adulation,hero worship etc.).
TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 28/01/2012 19:15:27
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The Great man speaks out:
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Brian Cody described the prospect of payments to managers as "a disaster", warning it would only serve to reopen the debate on professionalism amongst players.
The Kilkenny boss is critical of suggestions managers or players should be rewarded financially for their efforts outside of expenses, arguing vehemently there is no sacrifice involved in playing for or managing your county.
"No way should managers be paid at all," said Cody last night. "In the GAA? Absolutely not. It would be a disaster.
"A few years ago we had big discussions about players being paid. The GPA tested the waters and it was looked upon as a massive threat to the association. The people who were hoping for it to happen realised and accept now that it just can't happen. That it's impossible to have professionalism in our association. It couldn't be sustained.
"For whatever reason now, and I don't understand it, suddenly (the GAA's director-general, Páraic Duffy is) talking about paying managers as if this is the correct way to do the thing. If that were to happen, all that would happen is it would resurrect again the potential for players and everyone else being paid.
Speaking during an RTÉ interview at the Dunamaise Arts Centre in Portlaoise, organised to help raise funds for Laois club Rosenallis, Cody continued.
"I choose to do this. It's not a sacrifice. It's a choice I made. It's not even remotely a sacrifice. It's the same with players. I read often about the savage commitment and sacrifices inter-county players make. They feel sorry for them.
"I don't feel sorry for inter-county players. I envy inter-county players. Because I know in Kilkenny, they're beating down the door to get into the dressing room. They would crawl to training if they thought they could get onto the county panel.
"No way should we be paid."
Cody acknowledged it was likely some managers were being paid but cannot see the logic in legitimising the practice.
"I've yet to meet a man who has said to me 'I'm cleaning up in this job' or anything. But if some managers are getting paid, is the cure to pay all managers?"
Meanwhile, Cody believes that the time is ripe for a change in the format of the hurling championships, with the provincial competitions being jettisoned for a round-robin league structure.
"I would do that. The argument always is that the Munster championship is special. It's always thrown out there. I'm not sure.
"It's scant reward for a team if you were beaten in the All-Ireland and won a Munster championship, or a Leinster. They won't feel they've achieved.
"I would change it because I think the whole backdoor system has diluted the interest in the provincial championships and the fact that if you lose it's not the end of the world.
"The time to do it is when things are going well. You can't leave it go until the crowds are no longer coming. Go out there and change it, and make it exciting."
"If Kilkenny were going down to play Cork in the first game of the championship, or Tipperary were going to play Wexford, or Laois to play Dublin, it would create an excitement, there'd be a newness about it."
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13846 - 03/02/2012 17:07:43
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27/01/2012 17:16:28
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County: Kerry
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1101462 30 Players per team
7 Manager & Team
1k a week
37k a week
X2 football & Hurling
74k a week
74K x 52 WEEKS = 3.8 MILLION
X 33 Counties = 126 Million
Probably the biggest straw-man argument of all time, and you're obviously just using it to be sensationalist. 52000 euro a year for Kilkenny footballers?! I dunno, maybe you do think you're some kind of mathematical genius for figuring it all out.
A much more likely scenario would be each player in the county squad getting a percentage of the gate spread between them, say 20% for arguments sake. No weekly guaranteed payments (is anyone really for this idea?), just a bit of a reward for putting on a show for paying customers. Every year 80,000 people pay €75 each for the All-Ireland final, and then the people who we all go and see perform don't get paid a cent out of this? That doesn't seem fair to me.
Transfers still wouldn't be allowed, so everyone's still playing for thier own county (I know that we're seeing some "transfers" but that's really something seperate). Only problem with it would be a gap opened up between county and club footballers, but with the sheer amount of dedication that county footballers put in could you really begrudge it? No-ones asking for Premiership or even League 2 pay packets, just a little compensation for so much hard work that we all pay to see the fruits of.
As an aside, would anyone know of any books or websites that cover the GAA's finances? i.e. where the hell all the cash from the big Croke Park days goes. Would be interesting to see
DownInDublin (Down) - Posts: 63 - 07/02/2012 16:34:53
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