Was reading about the Eoin Collins who lost his sight in December playing rugby after someone gouged him!!

If this was a GAA match it would have hit every major newspaper like wild fire, with all the usual fire and brimstone about the GAA discipline . This is the difference in treatment.

That been said, wish him all the best and hope he can recover.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 09/01/2012 17:00:26    1090849

Witnof I am not trying to be a smart ass but how often does an eye gouging incident take place in a GAA match. Never??? Not sure what your point is.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 09/01/2012 17:21:30    1090868

09/01/2012 17:00:26
witnof
County: Dublin
Posts: 254

1090849 Was reading about the Eoin Collins who lost his sight in December playing rugby after someone gouged him!!

If this was a GAA match it would have hit every major newspaper like wild fire, with all the usual fire and brimstone about the GAA discipline . This is the difference in treatment.

That been said, wish him all the best and hope he can recover.

Wish him the best in his recovery, Cannot understand one bit the mentality of a player who knowingly gouges another or stamps on a head, anything like that is just off the chart mental, the game is a physical game already, it doesnt need violence of that kind in any form at all

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/01/2012 17:28:43    1090877

jonny1951 i think withnof is just pointing out if a gaa player done damage of this magnitude to another player their would be no end to the stories.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 09/01/2012 18:07:48    1090907

Good point Witnof.
It never ceases to amaze me how violent incidents in rugby are almost completely ignored whereas violent incidents in the GAA are almost front page news.
Eoin Collins is blind in one eye as a result of this cowardly act and there isn't a peep out of the rugby media.
I've been in my share of scrapes on the football field but I can't fathom the mindset whereby someone would deliberately attack another players eye area.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 09/01/2012 18:54:55    1090943

Dead right. I thought the same thing when I heard about it witnof.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 09/01/2012 20:37:14    1091010

The guy has been cited.
There has been no examination of the incident by the IRFU as of yet.
Therefore the facts have still to be determined.
If the player is guilty then let the punishment be severe. But until then he's innocent and not deserving of any ill-conceived comments being posted here.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/01/2012 20:49:47    1091019

How many reporters are against the GAA, and how many are for the GAA?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 09/01/2012 21:01:06    1091030

Maybe the rugby incident isn't being highlighted enough but it's all a lot of ifs and buts. Don't know why rugby is being compared. I don't agree with the point raised anyway.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 09/01/2012 21:05:14    1091034

09/01/2012 21:01:06
dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9020

1091030 How many reporters are against the GAA, and how many are for the GAA?

5 million for and 2 against ;-)

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/01/2012 21:07:37    1091036

That Rugby episode was in November and its now January and it has not been investigated. Yet no Journo screaming about delays. What a surprise !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KELF (Kildare) - Posts: 775 - 09/01/2012 21:08:12    1091038

RTE seem to like to portray GAA as a violent sport. Hence the 2 scenes of fights from GAA matches from the six-one news on a report dealing with a trial change in the laws . No mention of the eye gouging of course or the numerous free for all you see at Rugby matches. Hoganstand is such a valuable forum for GAA supporters as it acts as a counterweight to of the bias in the other media.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 09/01/2012 21:53:40    1091077

09/01/2012 21:53:40
mod
County: Mayo
Posts: 405

1091077 RTE seem to like to portray GAA as a violent sport. Hence the 2 scenes of fights from GAA matches from the six-one news on a report dealing with a trial change in the laws . No mention of the eye gouging of course or the numerous free for all you see at Rugby matches. Hoganstand is such a valuable forum for GAA supporters as it acts as a counterweight to of the bias in the other media.

Rubbish, how does the state broadcaster of ireland protray irelands national games as violent???
Dont be paranoid there is as much anti rugby media as anti gaa amongst the top media(name 1 reporter/analyst with anti gaa storys in the recent past)

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/01/2012 09:58:35    1091101

I think there's a difference here in using the term 'anti-gaa' and making an observation that in general journalists (and the public) tend to hold the GAA to a different set of standards than they do with other sports. A brawl or an unsavoury incident like the one getting discussed above doesn't make the same headlines or get the same reaction on say liveline as it would were it in a GAA match.

Does that make reporters anti-GAA? I don't think so. I do however think that some sports writers particularly some of those detailed to cover rugby are far too cosy and gushing when writing about it and wouldn't know where to start in taking on a negative story like this.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 10/01/2012 10:29:42    1091111

10/01/2012 10:29:42
doublehop
County: Kildare
Posts: 1468

1091111 I think there's a difference here in using the term 'anti-gaa' and making an observation that in general journalists (and the public) tend to hold the GAA to a different set of standards than they do with other sports. A brawl or an unsavoury incident like the one getting discussed above doesn't make the same headlines or get the same reaction on say liveline as it would were it in a GAA match.

Does that make reporters anti-GAA? I don't think so. I do however think that some sports writers particularly some of those detailed to cover rugby are far too cosy and gushing when writing about it and wouldn't know where to start in taking on a negative story like this.

These would be in the main the biggest problems with the various top rugby writers;
Thornley: excellant except is a bit too cosy with some of the top players through a link of some kind(which he uses to get many of the big stories first) so rarely does negative stories
Ward: good except when he discusses schools rugby when all he does is make you want to throw up,
Cummiskey: same as ward but without the high profile ward has.
Toland: best writer in irish newspapers in terms of rugby at the moment though alan quinlan has started off very well

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/01/2012 10:48:00    1091119

Re Ormanbannerman "Rubbish, how does the state broadcaster of ireland protray irelands national games as violent???
Dont be paranoid there is as much anti rugby media as anti gaa amongst the top media(name 1 reporter/analyst with anti gaa storys in the recent past)"
I'm afraid you are looking at our national broadcaster with oval shaped rose tinted glasses.
When showing highlights of ANY GAA match where there has been a sending off bad tackle etc the negative incident is never omitted (unlike many of the scores) This is very seldom the case for a rugby game.
There are also numerous examples of negative high profile rugby incidents being unreported by RTE you will be aware of a particularly horrific drunk driving incident in your neck of the woods that was hushed up and another very very high profile rugby manager who left the scene after an incident with a Sunday Times reporter, an incident which was published on succesive weeks in the Sunday Times but not mentioned by our national broadcaster. We all know how RTE would have treated the story had a high profile GAA manager been involved.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 11/01/2012 20:42:12    1092213

RTE seem to like to portray GAA as a violent sport. Hence the 2 scenes of fights from GAA matches from the six-one news on a report dealing with a trial change in the laws . No mention of the eye gouging of course or the numerous free for all you see at Rugby matches. Hoganstand is such a valuable forum for GAA supporters as it acts as a counterweight to of the bias in the other media

Tomsmith here, Mod from Mayo I fully agree with you.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4044 - 13/01/2012 18:56:48    1093293

How many reporters are actually against the GAA, an approximate figure would do?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 13/01/2012 19:22:57    1093317

Re dHorse How many Sports Reporters are there in RTE?

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 13/01/2012 21:31:12    1093440

mod
County: Mayo
Posts: 407

1093440 Re dHorse How many Sports Reporters are there in RTE?

I would guess 20 to 30.

i would also guess that you reckon they are all against the GAA.

It may be a persecution complex

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 13/01/2012 21:58:23    1093465