Maybe if the GAA were to write such a letter it would have a greater impact. I am glad they realise what is going on in the media but judging on the elements of the DGs report the media choose to highlight nothing has changed. Watching RTE news last night they reported that the GAA are looking at possible giving the Rugby toe tap instead of a free tap a trial in our games. So from everything the DG had to say they thought the most important was a piece relating to rugby.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 15/03/2012 11:27:03    1129906

15/03/2012 11:27:03
Louth Gael
County: Louth
Posts: 829

1129906 Maybe if the GAA were to write such a letter it would have a greater impact. I am glad they realise what is going on in the media but judging on the elements of the DGs report the media choose to highlight nothing has changed. Watching RTE news last night they reported that the GAA are looking at possible giving the Rugby toe tap instead of a free tap a trial in our games. So from everything the DG had to say they thought the most important was a piece relating to rugby.

To be fair, the tap that they were talking about is the exact same thing.
In rugby a free kick is done the same way as a gaelic footballer toe taps the ball
In both sports they will be free taps where the ball carrier can tap the ball off to restart the game after foul play etc

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/03/2012 11:58:07    1129926

Louth Gael get off the stage will ya? It wasn't the only thing highlighted and Mr Duffy said he was fearful that football was becoming less attractive by the year, due to the negative tactics being employed by a lot of teams. This is the biggest discussion point in GAA for the last few years so I think it is a massive deal if such a rule was brought in.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 15/03/2012 12:06:09    1129942

Johny51 I think you need to take a closer look at what is going on. Louth Gael is correct look at RTE player!!! The 6.1 news ignored the message of media bias and took the opportunity of showing the dust up in portlaiose again plus the Diarmuid Connolly sending off. They are continually on "RTE" message which is Rugby = good GAA = bad. Even when commentating on a proposed change we got a rugby clip. It is ok for the papers to have some bias they are privately owned but RTE is funded by you and me to cover all sports in a fair manner and not behave like the PR dept of the IRFU. I don't like that particular presenter in any case I remember when the 3 game saga between Limerick and Tipp was creating a bit of a stir he wasn't able to give the result of the final match although it had finished 20 min previously and had been televised on RTE2.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 15/03/2012 12:29:21    1129967

The DG thinks that football is not an attractive game to watch and has proposed a possible, groundbreaking rule change, I am simply stating that in my opinion that was probably the highlight of the report.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 15/03/2012 12:43:39    1129978

Thank you mod, I wasn't complaining about the DG making the comment about the toe tap I was talking about how RTE decided this was one of the higlights of the report while ignoring the part about media bias and once again showing us the Junior semi final fight. Why don't RTE just keep repeating the footage of that fight with the words "PLAY RUGBY" running across the screen, that is what they really want to do.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 15/03/2012 14:30:00    1130080

ormond..why would i waste my time writing a letter i am not some old woman..this bias towards rugby and anti-gaa element will always exist with those newspapers...

shermaninator (USA) - Posts: 285 - 15/03/2012 14:41:56    1130092

15/03/2012 14:41:56
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County: USA
Posts: 54

1130092 ormond..why would i waste my time writing a letter i am not some old woman..this bias towards rugby and anti-gaa element will always exist with those newspapers...

There is no bias, there was quite a while ago but there isnt any bias shown these days and why not complain if you feel they are biased as if you give good enough arguments as to why you feel they are baised(which you are not doing at the moment) the newspaper in question may look to how they may improve as to please a concerned reader

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/03/2012 18:32:25    1130345

15/03/2012 12:29:21
mod
County: Mayo
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1129967 Johny51 I think you need to take a closer look at what is going on. Louth Gael is correct look at RTE player!!! The 6.1 news ignored the message of media bias and took the opportunity of showing the dust up in portlaiose again plus the Diarmuid Connolly sending off. They are continually on "RTE" message which is Rugby = good GAA = bad. Even when commentating on a proposed change we got a rugby clip. It is ok for the papers to have some bias they are privately owned but RTE is funded by you and me to cover all sports in a fair manner and not behave like the PR dept of the IRFU. I don't like that particular presenter in any case I remember when the 3 game saga between Limerick and Tipp was creating a bit of a stir he wasn't able to give the result of the final match although it had finished 20 min previously and had been televised on RTE2.

If you think RTE has the belier that Rugby= good and GAA= bad, id love to have some of what you are smoking as id be put off this planet.
If RTE behaved "like the PR dept of the IRFU" wouldnt club rugby games get more coverage and provincial A games get more coverage.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/03/2012 18:35:23    1130348

The article about the Kerry hurlers being dropped is a classic example of a story being spun to present a negative image of the GAA.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 15/03/2012 18:52:25    1130362

Ormond: "There is no dublin based media thing against the GAA, do you ever see anti GAA articles as biased as some of the anti rugby tom humphries articles." come on give us a break will you.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 15/03/2012 19:13:32    1130378

15/03/2012 19:13:32
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County: Dublin
Posts: 636

1130378 Ormond: "There is no dublin based media thing against the GAA, do you ever see anti GAA articles as biased as some of the anti rugby tom humphries articles." come on give us a break will you.

Heres part of a tom humphries article that was printed in the week after ireland won the grand slam. Now thats what you call bitter and is anti rugby much more than any recent article, if any, have been anti GAA

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_union/article59 46900.ece
Ireland grand-slam bid fails to unite nation
For older generations, the prospect of victory in Cardiff today will do little to stir the sporting soul
If you are Irish and you like rugby, you will be loving this entire grand-slam business. The old boys of 1948 getting dusted down and wheeled out. The big claims for rugby's centrality to Irish culture. The sense that a grand slam may be one last, grand blowout before the country throws itself down the economic garbage chute.

If youre Irish and indifferent to the rugger hullabaloo, well, you won't be short of company, either

This has been an interesting month for Irish sport. For a few days at Cheltenham we masqueraded as the racing Irish, a loveable, all-drinking, all-wagering tribe of codgers pretending that they still had some money left. Here we come clutching a form guide and rosary beads in one hand and a creamy pint in the other. The sport of kings. It's in our blood, see.


Tuesday was St Patrick's Day and Croke Park hosted the All-Ireland club hurling and football finals. If there is a unit of Irish sport that feels itself securely tied to the soul of the nation, it is the GAA.


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And then this weekend the stage is boisterously commandeered by the rugby people - big, bluff practitioners of a sport that a rabid RTE commentator asserted a couple of years ago to be the "heartbeat of our nation". It was a claim that set many of us sniggering into our skinny cappuccinos. You either love rugby or loathe rugby, but in Ireland it is also possible to ignore it, even in a week such as this.


Rugby is slowly changing its demographic and the success of Munster, in particular, has provided a sort of gateway drug for those who wish to explore matters farther. For many of us, however, it is too late. We grew up in a time when rugby in Dublin and in Ulster was the preserve and the sporting means of self-expression for the privileged classes.


Even in other regions the game was, as the great Irish writer Breandán ÓhEithir put it, "distinguished from other popular sports by the fact that it was played by Protestants and by the sons of the small-town businessmen who had been sent to the rugby- playing academies of Blackrock, Castleknock and Clongowes Wood, to ensure that they were kept a cut above the buttermilk that surrounded them at home and to make useful business connections".


Irish rugby remains a sport from which generations of us have felt excluded and disenfranchised. Whatever happens in Wales today, it will be a private function. A large swath of us will be at home watching something else or doing something else, not out of ill will but just because rugby does not concern us or stir us. The game does not still the nation in the way that Ireland football matches in World Cup finals do, clearing those streets that have previously been festooned with flags and bunting. And rugby does not stir that deep, atavistic pride inside us like an All-Ireland hurling final


If the link above doesnt work the article is http://www.munsterfans.com/threads/17589-Clownish-article-by-Tom-Humphries

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/03/2012 19:43:26    1130409

you are in denial ormond...complete denial to even suggest rugby warrants the coverage it gets compared to gaa hence showing a bias towards it..

shermaninator (USA) - Posts: 285 - 15/03/2012 20:08:46    1130436

15/03/2012 20:08:46
shermaninator
County: USA
Posts: 58

1130436 you are in denial ormond...complete denial to even suggest rugby warrants the coverage it gets compared to gaa hence showing a bias towards it..

How am i in denial?? Rugby has 4 pro club sides and a pro national side. 2 of which are in the top top echelon in europe with another building its way to that level and the coverage the provinces get reflects that.
These sides have been very successful in recent years and that is why rugby gets so much coverage
The club game in ireland gets decent coverage not as much as it should though.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/03/2012 20:26:38    1130456

yes they are successful but gaa gets very little coverage and hype from newspapers despite being the most popular sport in ireland by a distance...soccer is 2nd while rugby is 3rd yet rugby seems to get the most coverage...there is nothing positive said about the gaa during this period..all the stuff is about meaningless handbags and fights at games and manager payments...nothing about hyping up new players or college games or even u21 games..nothing positive

shermaninator (USA) - Posts: 285 - 15/03/2012 21:15:17    1130487

the club game in ireland in rugby deserves no coverage

shermaninator (USA) - Posts: 285 - 15/03/2012 21:15:50    1130488

just 1 comment,on Wed 14th the Independent gave a full 2 columns to the Leinster JUNIOR schools cup SEMIFINAL,last Sundays Indo didnt even give the result of of the senior colleges AI hurling QF,it that speaks forr itself

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 538 - 15/03/2012 21:35:04    1130506

15/03/2012 21:15:17
shermaninator
County: USA
Posts: 60

1130487 yes they are successful but gaa gets very little coverage and hype from newspapers despite being the most popular sport in ireland by a distance...soccer is 2nd while rugby is 3rd yet rugby seems to get the most coverage...there is nothing positive said about the gaa during this period..all the stuff is about meaningless handbags and fights at games and manager payments...nothing about hyping up new players or college games or even u21 games..nothing positive
15/03/2012 21:15:50
shermaninator
County: USA
Posts: 60

1130488 the club game in ireland in rugby deserves no coverage

Your 2nd post in relation to club rugby is a disgraceful comment.No need for it at all
Soccer gets lots of coverage but most of it is coverage of english clubs and very very few irish players at least with rugby the vast majority of players are irish and represent irish clubs and the irish national team
Im fine with people having a go a rugby if they use proper argument and points but dont act childishly saying "club rugby deserves no coverage" as thats as arrogant as the people you slag for being posh, snobbish rugby followers

There is lots of positive media coverage of the GAA, that i would love rugby to get. The GAA prides itself on the power of the club, the community and that is always given accross in media highlighting the best of the GAA

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/03/2012 21:41:00    1130515

Maybe after last nights RTE Prime Time investigates on the Croke Park Handball centre maybe the GAA/PACT deserve all the bad press they get.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 16/03/2012 13:02:34    1130752

Why?
Explain that further.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 16/03/2012 13:10:30    1130756