There have been days when the indo has given cricket a full page when it is doubtful there is even 0.01 interested in this country. They appear to be giving their readers the sports they want them to be interested rather than reporting the sports they are interested in.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 26/02/2012 11:27:33    1117749

Re The Road In my opinion Brehany was a very good GAA writer before he came to the Indo. Now he only points out the negative side of the Association. When was the last time you read something from him praising the GAA? He also times the negative stuff to coincide with the start of the Championship and indeed now his latest campaign on payments to managers comes just as the League is starting. He gives me the impression that he has no enthusiasm for Gaelic games. Perhaps it is the policy of the paper or it could be the man himself. The only Gaelic games reporter I enjoy is Vincent Hogan although I was disappointed to see him wheeled out to defend the link between sport and alcohol and we all know why that might be the position of the Indo. In other sports I think Neil Francis on Rugby is excellent. Why is there no game analysis by indo reporters no analysis of tactics in GAA games (other than the lazy generalisations e.g. defensive Donegal). I was involved with a club team and even at that level alot of thought goes into that area, some managers can be very creative and I find that side of the game fascinating.
Re Ormanbannerman you were not too eager for openness when it came to a certain gouging incident.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 26/02/2012 21:07:25    1118037

never mind the rugby lover ormond...yeah i think the coverage of gaa is just badly done..them rankings earlier in the year were awful

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 26/02/2012 21:56:23    1118085

ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 243

1118085 never mind the rugby lover ormond...yeah i think the coverage of gaa is just badly done..them rankings earlier in the year were awful
Yeah I notice that he is on GAA siteS commenting only on rugby. I would find it strange if I went on a rugby website and only spoke of football and hurling. I am sure I would be told where to go.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 27/02/2012 10:16:25    1118165

26/02/2012 21:56:23
ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 243

1118085 never mind the rugby lover ormond...yeah i think the coverage of gaa is just badly done..them rankings earlier in the year were awful
27/02/2012 10:16:25
Real Kerry Fan
County: All
Posts: 2584

1118165 ffgg
County: Longford
Posts: 243

1118085 never mind the rugby lover ormond...yeah i think the coverage of gaa is just badly done..them rankings earlier in the year were awful
Yeah I notice that he is on GAA siteS commenting only on rugby. I would find it strange if I went on a rugby website and only spoke of football and hurling. I am sure I would be told where to go.

If you look at my posts i comment on GAA related issues
Not that you would take that into account to have a go at me or rugby.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/02/2012 10:44:13    1118188

Just commenting on another website mainly.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 27/02/2012 11:44:04    1118223

Mod,Breheny has always struck me as a man who is concerned with the direction that the Gaa is taking,rather than being anti Gaa.He merely points out the associations flaws and offers solutions,and has often spoken out against the shortening of the inter county season as in his own words it would give other sports more time to hog the headlines.I think that he just wants to see the Gaa sort out its problems.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 27/02/2012 11:51:43    1118231

I know he likes to give that impression but I have seen him criticise the GAA over indiscipline and then criticise it again saying the sanctions are draconian. I also remember him giving out about the scheduling of a GAA match at the same time as a Heineken Cup quarter final (could have been a semi final) The clash would have arose had Leinster/Munster qualified which they subsequently failed to do. Talk about looking for negative comment!! Finally all of his observation/commentary is negative. If he is a GAA writer why does he not show some of the joy and excitement which is a big part of GAA. I don't want the sychopantic stuff a la the rugby writer Hugh Farrelly but surely he can find reasons to be positive and show some insight (tactics etc) about the games he reports on.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 29/02/2012 11:18:40    1119523

Looks like the Gaa top brass agree with many of the sentiments expressed on this thread.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 14/03/2012 17:36:29    1129469

Sling yer hook ormandbannerman!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 14/03/2012 18:52:55    1129555

14/03/2012 18:52:55
TheGateKeeper
County: Tyrone
Posts: 245

1129555 Sling yer hook ormandbannerman!

Aye Aye Captain

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/03/2012 19:08:49    1129569

If the GAA heirarchy agrees with these sentiments why then do they say "how high?" when the Dublin media says "jump"? Why does Croke Park allow the Southern media to set the agenda especially in relation to disciplinary matters; it's no good protesting if you are effectively a poodle to the same elements.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9818 - 14/03/2012 19:12:08    1129571

Paraic Duffy was 100% correct in what he said about the media.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 14/03/2012 19:59:06    1129613

He highlighted the media coverage of events in the AIB GAA Football All-Ireland Junior Club Championship semi-final as an example of this, writing that while "no-one in authority in the GAA will seek to minimise what occurred... the gap between what actually occurred and the presentation of what occurred was conspicuous."

He described certain articles which appeared after the game in sections of the non-GAA media as "disgraceful." He posited that sometimes this type of coverage may be driven by a perception of the GAA as not being 'fashionable' enough in certain circles.

"Might it be that the lack of an international and professional dimension has created a form of condescension towards Gaelic Games, or that there is a metropolitan attitude in Dublin-based media towards games with a strong - although not at all uniquely - rural following?" he considers.
http://gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1403121515-report-of-the-ard-stiurthoir-2011/

There is no dublin based media thing against the GAA, do you ever see anti GAA articles as biased as some of the anti rugby tom humphries articles.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/03/2012 20:08:33    1129629

what about the article written by the o'connor fella which brolly slammed a few weeks ago ormond?

shermaninator (USA) - Posts: 285 - 14/03/2012 21:07:23    1129703

14/03/2012 21:07:23
shermaninator
County: USA
Posts: 30

1129703 what about the article written by the o'connor fella which brolly slammed a few weeks ago ormond?

And what about tom humphries articles on rugby. There is no sport favoured over the others by the media in this country. Hurling is not favoured, Gaelic Football is not favoured, Rugby is not favoured, Soccer is not favoured.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/03/2012 21:15:39    1129723

rugby is favoured by the irish times largely ormond...the leinster schools cup gets crazy coverage while a league game gets a little bracket in the paper and also most championship matches outside of the big ones receive very little coverage..rugby is always on the front page..i dont no how you can possibly say rugby does not receive preferential treatment..humphries articles largely gave out about the snobbery he encountered

shermaninator (USA) - Posts: 285 - 14/03/2012 21:26:32    1129736

14/03/2012 21:26:32
shermaninator
County: USA
Posts: 34

1129736 rugby is favoured by the irish times largely ormond...the leinster schools cup gets crazy coverage while a league game gets a little bracket in the paper and also most championship matches outside of the big ones receive very little coverage..rugby is always on the front page..i dont no how you can possibly say rugby does not receive preferential treatment..humphries articles largely gave out about the snobbery he encountered

Yes, the schools cups gets a lot of coverage but clearly the times that feels a good part of their readership wants to read a lot on schools cups games otherwise they wouldnt give as much space as they do every february/march
Rugby is not always on the front page
The pro teams get some coverage as does the national team but the GAA gets plenty of coverage as much as rugby in thier peak periods of their seasons

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/03/2012 21:34:01    1129750

rugby has always gotten huge coverage and press in the times even in the days when rugby had very few internationals a year...the coverage the schools cup gets isn't justified...gaa and gaelic football should largely receive the most coverage by the media as it is by far the largest sport in this country...it is ignorant to even suggest rugby is on its level and that no bias towards rugby exists in dublin when it evidently does..i am not anti-rugby i quite enjoy the sport i just dont like the preferential treatment and excessive coverage it gets in ireland for a sport which is the 3rd or fourth largest in this country behind football soccer and hurling

shermaninator (USA) - Posts: 285 - 14/03/2012 21:43:35    1129761

14/03/2012 21:43:35
shermaninator
County: USA
Posts: 39

1129761 rugby has always gotten huge coverage and press in the times even in the days when rugby had very few internationals a year...the coverage the schools cup gets isn't justified...gaa and gaelic football should largely receive the most coverage by the media as it is by far the largest sport in this country...it is ignorant to even suggest rugby is on its level and that no bias towards rugby exists in dublin when it evidently does..i am not anti-rugby i quite enjoy the sport i just dont like the preferential treatment and excessive coverage it gets in ireland for a sport which is the 3rd or fourth largest in this country behind football soccer and hurling

Yes in the past rugby got some coverage due to the role of media based in dublin but times are now different. In the past when there was only a few internationals a year, rugby only really got big press for the 5 nations, the finals of the schools cups and clubs senior cups and when international teams were in the country on tour. Gaelic Football is the biggest sport in the country but its up to the GAA to promote it and ensure it gets more coverage if the GAA believes rugby gets preferential treatment

If you feel the irish times or irish indo concentrate too much on rugby over GAA then write to them and ask why. Im sure theyll reply quickly and with a good long response

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/03/2012 21:57:12    1129777