dhorse
County: Laois
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You dont 'kick off' a game of Hurling

indeed not,but it's a term that has crept in, it's used by a lot of sports that young lads in particular are familar with. some people still used Hop ball or 50 in GAa but we all know what they mean. Culture is always on the move, if it stands still it dies


Ever heard of the phrase "If its not broke - don't fix it"?

FairShoulder (Armagh) - Posts: 333 - 17/02/2012 20:35:36    1113907

Yesterdays Herald devoted 8 pages for rugby, 6 for Soccer and 2 for GAA. Says it all really.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 18/02/2012 11:49:38    1113989

Louth Gael
County: Louth
Posts: 811

1113989
Yesterdays Herald devoted 8 pages for rugby, 6 for Soccer and 2 for GAA. Says it all really.


It sure does, mainly that we are in the middle of the rugby 6 nations. Similarly during the Championship the GAA gets more coverage and during the World Cup soccer will get more coverage. Shocking bias I know...

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 18/02/2012 13:06:05    1114021

Louth geal,why should the media take the national leagues seriously when so many managers and players dont?I appreciate your sentiment but your man bad.monkey is right.We cant expect full coverage at this time of year.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 18/02/2012 13:42:49    1114039

Actually it's eight pages on Leinster rugby so nothing to do with the six nations and regardless of how the GAA treat the league it is still the most attended sport on the island at the moment and so should have the most coverage. There could be 10'000 at a league game but if there was a dodgy handshake in England it would get more pages in the papers here.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 18/02/2012 14:53:40    1114069

Louth Gael
County: Louth
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1113989
Yesterdays Herald devoted 8 pages for rugby, 6 for Soccer and 2 for GAA. Says it all really.

thats because friday is the rugby supplement day
monday is soccer
tuesday is gaa

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/02/2012 15:10:33    1114078

Re the argument that rugby is getting more coverage now because of 6 Nations. It simply doesn't stand up. It gets years round positive cover on RTE in contrast to GAA. For example on the 9 o'clock news on the eve of the All Ireland Football Final. The only mention of the game (which subsequently turned out to have the greatest viewing figures) was during the weather forecast (by a Kerry woman needless to say) They didn't even bother to announce that the following prog was Up for the match (not that that offering is any great shakes). No doubt if there was a row at some Junior match we would have heard all about it!!!

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 18/02/2012 20:14:14    1114260

18/02/2012 20:14:14
mod
County: Mayo
Posts: 440

1114260 Re the argument that rugby is getting more coverage now because of 6 Nations. It simply doesn't stand up. It gets years round positive cover on RTE in contrast to GAA. For example on the 9 o'clock news on the eve of the All Ireland Football Final. The only mention of the game (which subsequently turned out to have the greatest viewing figures) was during the weather forecast (by a Kerry woman needless to say) They didn't even bother to announce that the following prog was Up for the match (not that that offering is any great shakes). No doubt if there was a row at some Junior match we would have heard all about it!!!

Maybe RTE felt that with up for the match on, theres no need to mention the game on the news and the time in which the sports presenter is given to speak is better spent talking about rugby,soccer, etc as the football game would have well over an hours coverage in the next programme

Baltra (UK) - Posts: 49 - 18/02/2012 21:12:46    1114295

FairShoulder
County: Armagh
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1113907 dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9519

You dont 'kick off' a game of Hurling

indeed not,but it's a term that has crept in, it's used by a lot of sports that young lads in particular are familar with. some people still used Hop ball or 50 in GAa but we all know what they mean. Culture is always on the move, if it stands still it dies


Ever heard of the phrase "If its not broke - don't fix it"?

Who said anything about fixing, It's change. all aspects of life/culture are continously changing, some for the better some not so good maybe, you cant just freeze any aspect of the way people interact and expect it to stay like that forever, unless we decide to live like museum pieces. gaelic games have evolved and will evolve in line with the way the culture they exist in evolves.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 18/02/2012 21:39:24    1114310

dhorse
County: Laois
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1114310
FairShoulder
County: Armagh
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1113907 dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 9519

You dont 'kick off' a game of Hurling

indeed not,but it's a term that has crept in, it's used by a lot of sports that young lads in particular are familar with. some people still used Hop ball or 50 in GAa but we all know what they mean. Culture is always on the move, if it stands still it dies


Ever heard of the phrase "If its not broke - don't fix it"?

Who said anything about fixing, It's change. all aspects of life/culture are continously changing, some for the better some not so good maybe, you cant just freeze any aspect of the way people interact and expect it to stay like that forever, unless we decide to live like museum pieces. gaelic games have evolved and will evolve in line with the way the culture they exist in evolves.

I will class the term 'Kicking Off' in the 'not so good' bracket then.That's my final post on this topic.

FairShoulder (Armagh) - Posts: 333 - 19/02/2012 10:50:23    1114358

What about RTEs treatmentof the league, even though it is the biggest attended event at this time of the year they are not interested in showing any games. I think the League and championship should be sold as a package with RTE given first refusal.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 19/02/2012 12:51:53    1114411

Louth Gael,

I fully agree with you that RTE shows total disregard for the Irish viewing Publin.
How many people in Ireland want to see Div 2 or 3 English football.
In Ireland soccer/Rugby?Golf is a minority sports and as such its exposure on National Tv should reflect that

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4044 - 19/02/2012 13:54:47    1114436

19/02/2012 13:54:47
tomsmith
County: Cavan
Posts: 1461

1114436 Louth Gael,

I fully agree with you that RTE shows total disregard for the Irish viewing Publin.
How many people in Ireland want to see Div 2 or 3 English football.
In Ireland soccer/Rugby?Golf is a minority sports and as such its exposure on National Tv should reflect that

Soccer and rugby are not minority sports in ireland, a bit behind the GAA in terms of overall membership but not what you would call minority sports. Cricket in ireland is a minority sport, olympic handball is a minority sport in this country but rugby/soccer/golf are not

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/02/2012 14:08:17    1114446

Ormond.George hook said before the WC game against Australia that rugby is a miniority sport,but soccer definitely isnt.people here are obssessed with rugby,but for the millionth time,i will say that soccer has penetrated Gaa strongholds to a far greater extent over the last ten years.Nearly every town and village in this country will have a local soccer club at this stage.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 19/02/2012 14:27:58    1114463

Or at least theyll have a team not too far from them.

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 19/02/2012 14:28:31    1114464

19/02/2012 14:27:58
TheRoad
County: Galway
Posts: 816

1114463 Ormond.George hook said before the WC game against Australia that rugby is a miniority sport,but soccer definitely isnt.people here are obssessed with rugby,but for the millionth time,i will say that soccer has penetrated Gaa strongholds to a far greater extent over the last ten years.Nearly every town and village in this country will have a local soccer club at this stage.

But rugby has affected playing numbers much more if your being honest TheRoad, ive seen it in plenty of places that more GAA players are playing rugby and sticking with it while many go to play soccer but the vast vast majority dont stick to it in the same way ass they do with rugby

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/02/2012 14:32:32    1114467

Well i dont know the stats or anything like that,but twenty years ago my area had a thriving hurling club and it has since been dissolved as all ther kids are playing with mervue Utd now,and as Ive said before too,Ive only ever seen a few underage rugby matches,but every weekend there seems to be loads of soccer games on around the town (but this is just galway Im talking about).
Im not being anti rugby or anything like that,I just think its ironic that so many people here are talking about rugby so much when from my experience,soccer is a far bigger draw for kids growing up (around galway anyway).

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 19/02/2012 14:52:17    1114476

Evening Herald will no longer be running GAA supplements/pullouts. As far as I am aware its going to a morning red top.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 19/02/2012 17:51:54    1114559

Just watched the RTE news where a major push/offensive is being made against criminal elements in South Dublin. During this prime time viewing news bulletin it showed a sports ground for about fifteen seconds and guess what, it was a GAA ground in west Dublin that was shown.
I cannot understand what the connection was in this news bulletin and showing a camera going around a GAA ground

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4044 - 20/02/2012 21:37:28    1115301

Think youre reading a bit too much into it there tomsmith (assuming you were serious)

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 20/02/2012 21:41:19    1115304