We'll agree to disagree ormond. No point in two people who are well disposed to both sports knocking each other around when they won't agree. Not sure how you can outline the full details of the Bruff incident. I would appreciate it were you to manage it. Not sure either how an adult assaulting a fifteen year old can ever be justified . I take your point about sensationalism. That I believe is the core issue in terms of this topic. I also believe it is driven by the editors moreso than the journalists.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 16/02/2012 21:31:07    1113281

hill16no1man
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1113247 dhorse
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Lads , if you're not interested in rugby why the obsession with it?

WHATS THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD?
you have to compare gaa to other sports to debate the level of media attention

Why are so many reporters against the GAA?

Indeed you do need to compare with other sports. So far I see nothing much other than rugby being compared. how about horse racing, tennis, golf etc.

there seems to be a tremendous amount of knowledge of rugby by people that profess to despise it , or is the reality that they grudgingly admire it?

Now back to the question, EXACTLY HOW MANY REPORTERS ARE AGAINST THE GAA. A Figure of some sorts might help us get to the root of the question

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 16/02/2012 21:38:35    1113293

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hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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1113249 BIG SACKS
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This thread started off about GAA coverage in the media and the selective nature of reporting.

The main problem with the irish sporting media (north and south) is that it has taken on the role of the Skibbereen Eagle re English soccer and has forgotten all about local sport.

i agree 100%,that is exactly my problem with the media


The local media cover local sport extensively, I can see that as being a problem in Dublibn where the local media is tripe. although the herald does do quite a bit. i doubt if the kerry soccer league are very distressed by the lack of coverage in the herald even though it is supposed to be a national paper as for local radio in Dublin, it's just commercial music and commercials. get your hands on the carlow nationalist this week, great paper for sport

the herald is a dublin paper not national the independant is the national version,just because its sold outside dublin doesnt mean its realy a national paper,
the herald is by far the best paper i read as it gives a very fair spread of sports in general,each sport gets a day were it has its local leagues in full view.
the northside people is another local newspaper which covers local sports fair aswell,its not local media thats the problem its national media or the lack of it as most of our national newspapers are just british owned and run with a little tricolour at the top corner to make it seem irish.they cover british sports more then our own and i dont just mean sports played in britain i mean the clubs in britain and not the clubs in ireland.
as for music stations they are all the same and dublin ones are far ahead in my opinion as the amount of coverage people who died in a county get on some stations in countys is extremly morbit they announce deaths and funerals more then playing music

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/02/2012 10:25:24    1113388

dhorse
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its not a figure, its the level of attention that incidents get of a bad nature compared to the coverage of big games or good things happening in the sport
a big win for armagh in tralee should have made headlines instead of a minor scuffle in division 2 or a bizarre incident of fog postponing the match in castlebar at half time,do you not agree?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/02/2012 10:31:33    1113393

I have just been listening to Pat Kenny. There was a sports discussion and Pat was getting greatly exercised by the racial abuse of English soccer players, the hatred between Liverpool and Manchester and whether Harry Redknapp should manage the English soccer team.

All very noble sentiments but I still think its in "Skibbereen Eagle" country.......

Is it within the remit of the Irish national broadcaster to get so intimately involved in the sporting affairs of another country and how they, the Brits, should deal with their problems?

I

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 17/02/2012 11:13:39    1113431

Good point big sacks. Sometimes the most mundane story from the premiership such as two players not shaking hands will trump a GAA story. The Pat Kenny show is certainly guilty of this but then if you listen to the show regularly you would come to the conclusion that Pat would prefer if he never had to talk about the GAA.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 17/02/2012 12:17:04    1113497

Pat Kenny is entitled to his west Brit sentiments. I don't argue with that.
What I do find objectionable is the fact that RTE is a state broadcaster funded by the Irish people and with a responsibility to the citizens of this country. Surely this means that Irish sport should be fully reported on before they deal with what goes on in England which is not their main business as they would appear to think it is.
Is it not ridiculous that every Saturday night Irish state TV flies in a group of people from England to comment on soccer matches that are being played in England in front of English audiences, while willfully neglecting sport in the country for which they are licenced. I include all Irish sports in this.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 17/02/2012 12:46:57    1113539

Seen a poster on a DublinBus advertising the Dublin Hurlers palying a charity match or something earlier in the year (sorry can't remember what exactly it was for). It was in conjuction with The Evening Herald - Its said 'Kick off' 3pm- I kid you not. Says it all really.

FairShoulder (Armagh) - Posts: 333 - 17/02/2012 13:04:06    1113558

17/02/2012 12:46:57
BIG SACKS
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1113539 Pat Kenny is entitled to his west Brit sentiments. I don't argue with that.
What I do find objectionable is the fact that RTE is a state broadcaster funded by the Irish people and with a responsibility to the citizens of this country. Surely this means that Irish sport should be fully reported on before they deal with what goes on in England which is not their main business as they would appear to think it is.
Is it not ridiculous that every Saturday night Irish state TV flies in a group of people from England to comment on soccer matches that are being played in England in front of English audiences, while willfully neglecting sport in the country for which they are licenced. I include all Irish sports in this.

RTE clearly do it because they have a big enough market and viewing figures for showing the highlights of english premiership games
It is ridiculous that RTE gives over so much airtime to english premiership when RTE barely mentions the All Ireland League in rugby nevermind the international achievements of many irish athletes in sports like swimming, boxing, tennis etc.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 17/02/2012 13:15:32    1113572

BIG SACKS
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Posts: 1376

1113539 Pat Kenny is entitled to his west Brit sentiments. I don't argue with that.
What I do find objectionable is the fact that RTE is a state broadcaster funded by the Irish people and with a responsibility to the citizens of this country. Surely this means that Irish sport should be fully reported on before they deal with what goes on in England which is not their main business as they would appear to think it is.
Is it not ridiculous that every Saturday night Irish state TV flies in a group of people from England to comment on soccer matches that are being played in England in front of English audiences, while willfully neglecting sport in the country for which they are licenced. I include all Irish sports in this.


RTE is funded by those that pay a TV licence AND by advertising Revenue. 50/50 I think? If the commercial people thought that showing irish sport 24/7 would bring in the readies then thats what we would be subjected to. I have no time for the SPL/PL pantomime but quite a large group of people do, just lok at the soccer forum here. some of them have no interest in GAa and others have an interest in both. there is also a huge interest ine celebrity aspect of it.

People in The 6 counties pay for the BBC, there is no commercial input, surely they should get a better service from it also

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/02/2012 13:21:34    1113579

hill16no1man
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the herald is a dublin paper not national the independant is the national version,just because its sold outside dublin doesnt mean its realy a national paper,

Incorrect

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/02/2012 13:25:24    1113583

FairShoulder
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1113558 Seen a poster on a DublinBus advertising the Dublin Hurlers palying a charity match or something earlier in the year (sorry can't remember what exactly it was for). It was in conjuction with The Evening Herald - Its said 'Kick off' 3pm- I kid you not. Says it all really.

In fairness that term has crept in to GAA with young lads, especially in dublin. It's hardly going to be the downfall of irish culture though.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/02/2012 13:29:54    1113590

The term "kick-off" is used for the start of all kinds of events, no point getting humpy about its use in a GAA context.

kick off
vb (intr, adverb)
1. (Team Sports / Football Terms (both Rugby & Soccer)) to start play in a game of football by kicking the ball from the centre of the field
2. Informal to commence a discussion, job, etc.
n kickoff
1. (Team Sports / Football Terms (both Rugby & Soccer))
a. a place kick from the centre of the field in a game of football
b. the time at which the first such kick is due to take place kickoff is at 2.30 p.m
2. Informal
a. the beginning of something
b.
for a kickoff to begin with

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12372 - 17/02/2012 13:54:03    1113618

Breffni 39,

Such undiluted trash.
You dident learn that in Glan G Linn

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4044 - 17/02/2012 14:19:17    1113644

tomsmith
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1113644 Breffni 39,

Such undiluted trash.
You dident learn that in Glan G Linn

I wish I knew what you are trying to say tomsmith

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12372 - 17/02/2012 14:25:56    1113653

Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 6903

1113618 The term "kick-off" is used for the start of all kinds of events, no point getting humpy about its use in a GAA context.

kick off
vb (intr, adverb)
1. (Team Sports / Football Terms (both Rugby & Soccer)) to start play in a game of football by kicking the ball from the centre of the field
2. Informal to commence a discussion, job, etc.
n kickoff
1. (Team Sports / Football Terms (both Rugby & Soccer))
a. a place kick from the centre of the field in a game of football
b. the time at which the first such kick is due to take place kickoff is at 2.30 p.m
2. Informal
a. the beginning of something
b.
for a kickoff to begin with


You dont 'kick off' a game of Hurling

FairShoulder (Armagh) - Posts: 333 - 17/02/2012 15:04:29    1113697

FairShoulder
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Posts: 201

You dont 'kick off' a game of Hurling

You don't "kick-off" a debate about informal terms used for commencing event's/discussion etc either.

It's just a turn of phrase. Build a bridge (not literally) and get over it.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12372 - 17/02/2012 15:22:08    1113711

FairShoulder
County: Armagh
Posts: 201

1113697 Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 6903

1113618 The term "kick-off" is used for the start of all kinds of events, no point getting humpy about its use in a GAA context.

kick off
vb (intr, adverb)
1. (Team Sports / Football Terms (both Rugby & Soccer)) to start play in a game of football by kicking the ball from the centre of the field
2. Informal to commence a discussion, job, etc.
n kickoff
1. (Team Sports / Football Terms (both Rugby & Soccer))
a. a place kick from the centre of the field in a game of football
b. the time at which the first such kick is due to take place kickoff is at 2.30 p.m
2. Informal
a. the beginning of something
b.
for a kickoff to begin with


You dont 'kick off' a game of Hurling

indeed not,but it's a term that has crept in, it's used by a lot of sports that young lads in particular are familar with. some people still used Hop ball or 50 in GAa but we all know what they mean. Culture is always on the move, if it stands still it dies

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 17/02/2012 15:34:19    1113718

FairShoulder
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1113558
Seen a poster on a DublinBus advertising the Dublin Hurlers palying a charity match or something earlier in the year (sorry can't remember what exactly it was for). It was in conjuction with The Evening Herald - Its said 'Kick off' 3pm- I kid you not. Says it all really

are you sure you read it right that it was actualy the hurlers and not a soccer team as i would find it hard to see the herald making that mistake as they are a main promotet of dublin gaa

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/02/2012 17:43:43    1113818

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FairShoulder
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Posts: 201

1113558
Seen a poster on a DublinBus advertising the Dublin Hurlers palying a charity match or something earlier in the year (sorry can't remember what exactly it was for). It was in conjuction with The Evening Herald - Its said 'Kick off' 3pm- I kid you not. Says it all really

are you sure you read it right that it was actualy the hurlers and not a soccer team as i would find it hard to see the herald making that mistake as they are a main promotet of dublin gaa


It was definitely Hurling that's why I remember it - If it had have been a soccer game I wouldn't have noticed it

FairShoulder (Armagh) - Posts: 333 - 17/02/2012 19:31:03    1113875