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1110277 12/02/2012 20:03:57
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1110256 I have just read bits of this thread; I notice plenty of misreprenentation

For example the words "Boyne RFC are satisfied that the Highfield player cited did not contribute in any way to the serious eye injury suffered by its player"
were stated to have been an exhonaration of all 15 Highfield players when its pointendly noting of the sort.

Could it be, that if insurance does not pay out for proven foul play but does pay out for accidental injuries, a good reason Boyne dropped the case ????

Lat Rugby match I was at, a local one, a group comprising officials and hangers on, moved up & down the sideline in line with play, bellowing like bulls, at the opposition and the ref. So much for the socalled respect for their Refs. Having played a bit of rugby, back in the 70's and seen the respect there was then, I was appaled at my latest viewing and have not gone back in the last 3 years. Now the local media so fond of reporting GAA misdemours, never said a word about the yobbish behavior, in their so called independant report on that game.

So yes I agree at least some of the media are two faced, one for GAA and a very different one for Rugby.

Insurance does pay out on foul play. No Highfield player was found guilty of causing any injury to the unfortunate Boyne player as Highfield provided video proof at an IRFU enquiry that none of their players could have caused the injury

So did one of his own players do it Ormond ? This is an absolutely shocking incident Ormond.A young man has been deprived of the sight of one of his eyes.It cannot be swept under the carpet. It needs top be investigated properly and the perpetrator needs to be identified.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 16/02/2012 15:16:32    1112931

Greengrass if you are in Louth then surely you could find out the truth of the incident. Not too far from Boyne RFC. If you did, maybe you wouldn't be so up in arms. I would love to go into detail about the incident but it would not be posted I am sure.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 16/02/2012 15:36:57    1112948

16/02/2012 15:16:32
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1112931 ormondbannerman
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1110277 12/02/2012 20:03:57
KELF
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1110256 I have just read bits of this thread; I notice plenty of misreprenentation

For example the words "Boyne RFC are satisfied that the Highfield player cited did not contribute in any way to the serious eye injury suffered by its player"
were stated to have been an exhonaration of all 15 Highfield players when its pointendly noting of the sort.

Could it be, that if insurance does not pay out for proven foul play but does pay out for accidental injuries, a good reason Boyne dropped the case ????

Lat Rugby match I was at, a local one, a group comprising officials and hangers on, moved up & down the sideline in line with play, bellowing like bulls, at the opposition and the ref. So much for the socalled respect for their Refs. Having played a bit of rugby, back in the 70's and seen the respect there was then, I was appaled at my latest viewing and have not gone back in the last 3 years. Now the local media so fond of reporting GAA misdemours, never said a word about the yobbish behavior, in their so called independant report on that game.

So yes I agree at least some of the media are two faced, one for GAA and a very different one for Rugby.

Insurance does pay out on foul play. No Highfield player was found guilty of causing any injury to the unfortunate Boyne player as Highfield provided video proof at an IRFU enquiry that none of their players could have caused the injury

So did one of his own players do it Ormond ? This is an absolutely shocking incident Ormond.A young man has been deprived of the sight of one of his eyes.It cannot be swept under the carpet. It needs top be investigated properly and the perpetrator needs to be identified.

Do you honestly think 1 of his teammates did it?? I know its a shcoking incident.
Highfield the opposing club to boyne in this match proved that the accused player from their club couldnt have hurt the boyne player and clearly the IRFU found there was not a case for another player to be up in front of a disciplinary system

The case has been investigated properly and no member of highfield rugby club is accused of anything and is totally free to play rugby

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/02/2012 15:49:57    1112957

16/02/2012 15:16:32
Greengrass
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1112931 ormondbannerman
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1110277 12/02/2012 20:03:57
KELF
County: Kildare
Posts: 33

1110256 I have just read bits of this thread; I notice plenty of misreprenentation

For example the words "Boyne RFC are satisfied that the Highfield player cited did not contribute in any way to the serious eye injury suffered by its player"
were stated to have been an exhonaration of all 15 Highfield players when its pointendly noting of the sort.

Could it be, that if insurance does not pay out for proven foul play but does pay out for accidental injuries, a good reason Boyne dropped the case ????

Lat Rugby match I was at, a local one, a group comprising officials and hangers on, moved up & down the sideline in line with play, bellowing like bulls, at the opposition and the ref. So much for the socalled respect for their Refs. Having played a bit of rugby, back in the 70's and seen the respect there was then, I was appaled at my latest viewing and have not gone back in the last 3 years. Now the local media so fond of reporting GAA misdemours, never said a word about the yobbish behavior, in their so called independant report on that game.

So yes I agree at least some of the media are two faced, one for GAA and a very different one for Rugby.

Insurance does pay out on foul play. No Highfield player was found guilty of causing any injury to the unfortunate Boyne player as Highfield provided video proof at an IRFU enquiry that none of their players could have caused the injury

So did one of his own players do it Ormond ? This is an absolutely shocking incident Ormond.A young man has been deprived of the sight of one of his eyes.It cannot be swept under the carpet. It needs top be investigated properly and the perpetrator needs to be identified.

It is a shocking incident and was investigated properly and at the IRFU enquiry highfield rfc proved with video evidence that none of their players played a role in the injury to the boyne player
And do you really think 1 of his team mates did something? If so you cant be taken seriously ever again
The incident was investigated properly by the clubs and the IRFU

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/02/2012 16:07:22    1112972

lads it was an unsavoury incident on a rugby field thats the point, a minor scuffle in clones where nobody was injured made the headlines so it should have been classed as a black day for rugby in the same light

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/02/2012 16:21:24    1112990

jonny1951
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1112948 Greengrass if you are in Louth then surely you could find out the truth of the incident. Not too far from Boyne RFC. If you did, maybe you wouldn't be so up in arms. I would love to go into detail about the incident but it would not be posted I am sure.

Jonny do the best you can to post. I posted on the basis of what I was told by players who are involved at that level. I am very much open to correction as I would like to know exactly what happened.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 16/02/2012 16:31:57    1112998

rugby is full of black days but they are hushed up, one of their "star players" was in court last week after pleading guilty to assault but there was hardly a mention of it.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 16/02/2012 16:55:31    1113017

16/02/2012 16:55:31
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1113017 rugby is full of black days but they are hushed up, one of their "star players" was in court last week after pleading guilty to assault but there was hardly a mention of it.

Obv referring to ferris case, i dont know why there was little media attention. Maybe the top rugby journalists like ward, thornley, cummiskey, feel that they dont need to refer to cases like that as they have nothing to do with rugby

Why is "star players" in inverted commas, is he not one of irelands star players?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/02/2012 17:19:06    1113044

Lads , if you're not interested in rugby why the obsession with it?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 16/02/2012 17:34:51    1113057

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1113057
Lads , if you're not interested in rugby why the obsession with it?

+1

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 16/02/2012 17:45:09    1113062

This thread started off about GAA coverage in the media and the selective nature of reporting.

The main problem with the irish sporting media (north and south) is that it has taken on the role of the Skibbereen Eagle re English soccer and has forgotten all about local sport.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 16/02/2012 19:16:39    1113143

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1113143 This thread started off about GAA coverage in the media and the selective nature of reporting.

The main problem with the irish sporting media (north and south) is that it has taken on the role of the Skibbereen Eagle re English soccer and has forgotten all about local sport.

If nobody was reading/watching that wouldn't be the case

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 16/02/2012 20:15:51    1113199

ormondbannerman
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1113044 16/02/2012 16:55:31
Tom1916
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1113017 rugby is full of black days but they are hushed up, one of their "star players" was in court last week after pleading guilty to assault but there was hardly a mention of it.

Obv referring to ferris case, i dont know why there was little media attention. Maybe the top rugby journalists like ward, thornley, cummiskey, feel that they dont need to refer to cases like that as they have nothing to do with rugby

Why is "star players" in inverted commas, is he not one of irelands star players?

In fairness Ormond transgressions by Gaelic footballers and hurlers are reported in the media. Witness Mark Foley who no longer plays for Limerick and how his driving offence was reported in the press. We were told initially that the trial had commenced. The verdict and sentence was also reported. Ferris was not placed under anything like the same scrutiny. The lack of scrutiny had nothing to do with correspondents not considering that the cases had nothing to do with rugby. Those cases have everything to do with rugby. The lack of scrutiny has all to do with a softly softly approach to rugby, the transgressions of it's players and the violence on it's pitches. I don't know why that policyis in place. It shouldn't be.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 16/02/2012 20:16:36    1113201

16/02/2012 20:16:36
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1113201 ormondbannerman
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1113044 16/02/2012 16:55:31
Tom1916
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1113017 rugby is full of black days but they are hushed up, one of their "star players" was in court last week after pleading guilty to assault but there was hardly a mention of it.

Obv referring to ferris case, i dont know why there was little media attention. Maybe the top rugby journalists like ward, thornley, cummiskey, feel that they dont need to refer to cases like that as they have nothing to do with rugby

Why is "star players" in inverted commas, is he not one of irelands star players?

In fairness Ormond transgressions by Gaelic footballers and hurlers are reported in the media. Witness Mark Foley who no longer plays for Limerick and how his driving offence was reported in the press. We were told initially that the trial had commenced. The verdict and sentence was also reported. Ferris was not placed under anything like the same scrutiny. The lack of scrutiny had nothing to do with correspondents not considering that the cases had nothing to do with rugby. Those cases have everything to do with rugby. The lack of scrutiny has all to do with a softly softly approach to rugby, the transgressions of it's players and the violence on it's pitches. I don't know why that policyis in place. It shouldn't be.

Their is no softly softly approach to rugby. No matter what some people here may think.
What violence on the pitch in rugby? How many instances of violence occur? Very very few
Contact the print media if you feel they are biased in favour of rugby, they will return your message or should print your letter as complaining here wont bring about change tat you clearly desire
How does what stephen ferris and his brother did have anything to do with rugby? did they use a rugby ball in the incident? If

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/02/2012 20:24:59    1113209

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1113209 16/02/2012 20:16:36
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1113201 ormondbannerman
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1113044 16/02/2012 16:55:31
Tom1916
County: Armagh
Posts: 1266

1113017 rugby is full of black days but they are hushed up, one of their "star players" was in court last week after pleading guilty to assault but there was hardly a mention of it.

Obv referring to ferris case, i dont know why there was little media attention. Maybe the top rugby journalists like ward, thornley, cummiskey, feel that they dont need to refer to cases like that as they have nothing to do with rugby

Why is "star players" in inverted commas, is he not one of irelands star players?

In fairness Ormond transgressions by Gaelic footballers and hurlers are reported in the media. Witness Mark Foley who no longer plays for Limerick and how his driving offence was reported in the press. We were told initially that the trial had commenced. The verdict and sentence was also reported. Ferris was not placed under anything like the same scrutiny. The lack of scrutiny had nothing to do with correspondents not considering that the cases had nothing to do with rugby. Those cases have everything to do with rugby. The lack of scrutiny has all to do with a softly softly approach to rugby, the transgressions of it's players and the violence on it's pitches. I don't know why that policyis in place. It shouldn't be.

Their is no softly softly approach to rugby. No matter what some people here may think.
What violence on the pitch in rugby? How many instances of violence occur? Very very few
Contact the print media if you feel they are biased in favour of rugby, they will return your message or should print your letter as complaining here wont bring about change tat you clearly desire
How does what stephen ferris and his brother did have anything to do with rugby? did they use a rugby ball in the incident? If


There is a softly softly approach to rugby ormond. Where was the outrage when a fifteen year old player was assaulted on the field in Bruff by an adult supporter ? Contrast that with when a sixteen year old hurler was assaulted when playing in a senior championship match in Laois by one of his adult opponents. Two very similar incidents. One propmpted (quite rightly) a torrent of outrage in the press. The other was barely reported. How does Stephen Ferris and his brother have anything to do with rugby ? Does Ste[phen Ferris not play rugby at the highest level ? Witness the reporting of Paul Galvins tete a tete with a minor "celebrity" recently. Were the Brogan brothers to transgress how would it be reported ? I say this not to have a go at rugby. I enjoy rugby and played it. I follow our teams and wish them the best. I strongly believe however that rugby is given a very easy ride in the press.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 16/02/2012 20:53:39    1113242

dhorse
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1113057
Lads , if you're not interested in rugby why the obsession with it?

WHATS THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD?
you have to compare gaa to other sports to debate the level of media attention

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/02/2012 20:58:31    1113247

BIG SACKS
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1113143
This thread started off about GAA coverage in the media and the selective nature of reporting.

The main problem with the irish sporting media (north and south) is that it has taken on the role of the Skibbereen Eagle re English soccer and has forgotten all about local sport.

i agree 100%,that is exactly my problem with the media

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/02/2012 21:02:48    1113249

The truth is if rugby fans and lads on the bench jumped onto a pitch and got involved in a punch up it would be all over the papers. On other issues their is no doubt that people with influence have rugby connections and it gets favourable coverage in press and media, but thats just them looking after their own, instead of giving out about the rugby coverage we should be more concerned about what the gaa is doing for our game with coverage and if their is lazy journalism about the gaa that they tackle it.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 16/02/2012 21:16:46    1113262

Greengrass
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There is a softly softly approach to rugby ormond. Where was the outrage when a fifteen year old player was assaulted on the field in Bruff by an adult supporter ? Contrast that with when a sixteen year old hurler was assaulted when playing in a senior championship match in Laois by one of his adult opponents. Two very similar incidents. One propmpted (quite rightly) a torrent of outrage in the press. The other was barely reported. How does Stephen Ferris and his brother have anything to do with rugby ? Does Ste[phen Ferris not play rugby at the highest level ? Witness the reporting of Paul Galvins tete a tete with a minor "celebrity" recently. Were the Brogan brothers to transgress how would it be reported ? I say this not to have a go at rugby. I enjoy rugby and played it. I follow our teams and wish them the best. I strongly believe however that rugby is given a very easy ride in the press.

The ferris case has nothing to do with rugby as the fact that ferris is a pro rugby player is irrelevant to the case.
The galvin case is entirely different to the galvin case as paul galvin took offence to how he was portrayed by a nationally known mimic on national radio..
Rugby writers dont look to the sensationalistic storys and headlines that many GAA writers seem to prefer to use on similar storys, case in point is the bruff incident that you mention(that you dont know the fully story behind either and i would mention it to you if there was a way to do that on this site)
rugby is not given an easy ride in the press,

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/02/2012 21:19:52    1113267

hill16no1man
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1113249 BIG SACKS
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Posts: 1373

1113143
This thread started off about GAA coverage in the media and the selective nature of reporting.

The main problem with the irish sporting media (north and south) is that it has taken on the role of the Skibbereen Eagle re English soccer and has forgotten all about local sport.

i agree 100%,that is exactly my problem with the media


The local media cover local sport extensively, I can see that as being a problem in Dublibn where the local media is tripe. although the herald does do quite a bit. i doubt if the kerry soccer league are very distressed by the lack of coverage in the herald even though it is supposed to be a national paper as for local radio in Dublin, it's just commercial music and commercials. get your hands on the carlow nationalist this week, great paper for sport

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 16/02/2012 21:30:57    1113277