In recent times it appears to me that quite a lot of what some describles as the top reporters appear to be anti GAA.
A new fad appears to be accountability where some of these reporter tear apart County Gaa financial report paying particular o what it attention to what it costs to manage the senior team.
I just wonder how many people see sight of the Dalymount , Inchoire Park, Richmond Road, or a Tallaght clubs books.
One great thing that has come out of the recession the call to pay GAA players has ceased in recent times.
Maybe austerity has a plus for the GAA?.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4044 - 27/12/2011 21:33:31    1087459

It's part of the revisionist mentality that predominates the Irish media; deny the past or ridicule and shame Ireland's Gaelic and Nationalist history while embracing a right wing British, Dublin 4 and Unionist agenda. It's sickening but many are starting to see through it now. It's the same media that spent 15 years pushing the building boom, publishing big colour weekly and Sunday property supplements encouraging everyone to invest 1000's of Euros in shoe box, stud wall apartments then when it went arse up denied they had any responsibility........and blamed everyone and everything on the public sector. The Irish media have an agenda.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9818 - 27/12/2011 21:52:50    1087465

27/12/2011 21:33:31
tomsmith
County: Cavan
Posts: 1401

1087459 In recent times it appears to me that quite a lot of what some describles as the top reporters appear to be anti GAA.
A new fad appears to be accountability where some of these reporter tear apart County Gaa financial report paying particular o what it attention to what it costs to manage the senior team.
I just wonder how many people see sight of the Dalymount , Inchoire Park, Richmond Road, or a Tallaght clubs books.
One great thing that has come out of the recession the call to pay GAA players has ceased in recent times.
Maybe austerity has a plus for the GAA?.

I dont think they are being anti GAA at all. But mentioning facts like limerick county board costs increase by 95'000 in 2011 9http://www.limerickleader.ie/sport/gaelic-games/limerick_gaa_team_costs_up_by_95_000_1_3343500) has to be mentioned as these are some of our biggest sporting organisations and if any teams in rugby like munster, leinster or soccer like shamrock rovers, cork city etc made losses like that there would be big headlines in the papers.
If it was feasible(which it more than likely isnt) the top players should be paid but that doesnt seem to be the case and is now less likely due to the economic difficulties at this time

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/12/2011 21:54:05    1087466

Ormond, you think rugby's costs are not going up? But they are not mentioned and the IRFU have issued warnings about their future profits.

And look at the rugby clubs in financial trouble as well.

But its also things like refs and rules. You do not see the papers bang on about shite refs and the mess that is the scrum, wereas if you read the papers every GAA ref is crap and and the rules needed to be changed.

Negativity sells unfortunately

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 28/12/2011 09:50:09    1087473

I think its fantastic that these irresponsible county boards are being exposed.The costs of running inter county teams has gotten way out of hand, and it is very likely that county boards will start to collapse in the near future,as they are spending money that they simply dont have (a carbon copy of our government 5 years ago)Name and shame these guys.Anti Gaa?These journalists could well be doing the Gaa a favour.
P.S. Ulsterman,in reply to your piece......YAWN!

TheRoad (Galway) - Posts: 1339 - 28/12/2011 10:46:33    1087477

Ulsterman,

It's part of the revisionist mentality that predominates the Irish media; deny the past or ridicule and shame Ireland's Gaelic and Nationalist history while embracing a right wing British, Dublin 4 and Unionist agenda. It's sickening but many are starting to see through it now. It's the same media that spent 15 years pushing the building boom, publishing big colour weekly and Sunday property supplements encouraging everyone to invest 1000's of Euros in shoe box, stud wall apartments then when it went arse up denied they had any responsibility........and blamed everyone and everything on the public sector. The Irish media have an agenda.
Tomsmith here
I just wonder why do the big soccer clubs across the water get so much publicity in our media both print and oral . What has the fellow in a housing estate in rural Ireland in common with the eleven millionaires that play for these clubs. You always hear about the fellow that is playing Gaelic in Ireland that is going to make it big with these clubs. Rarely do you hear about the so called homesick situation (Where he is let go) when he returns to play Gaelic. I wonder what drives these Irish Journalists to be so pro British and anti GAA.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4044 - 28/12/2011 12:51:38    1087489

28/12/2011 09:50:09
witnof
County: Dublin
Posts: 249

1087473 Ormond, you think rugby's costs are not going up? But they are not mentioned and the IRFU have issued warnings about their future profits.

And look at the rugby clubs in financial trouble as well.

But its also things like refs and rules. You do not see the papers bang on about shite refs and the mess that is the scrum, wereas if you read the papers every GAA ref is crap and and the rules needed to be changed.

Negativity sells unfortunately

I know costs with munster, leinster etc are going up but i was pointing out that reporters are not being anti gaa by pointing out the losses of gaa county boards like i mentioned when they would and do the same thing when munster or leinster or any sporting organisation in any sport makes a big loss.

And yes you do see analysts complain about the laws of the game and problems with referees and their interpretations of laws.
Negativity does sell

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/12/2011 12:54:53    1087490

In fairness I think ulsterman is on the right road with his thoughts. Just a shame he lets his rants go on a bit.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 28/12/2011 13:45:23    1087509

Ulster man,

You are spot on when you support my views.
I feel that it is about time that GAA folk woke up and voted with their feet (money in the pocket) when one buys ones paper.
I do know that a few of these hacks do try and be controversial in an attempt to arose interest for the publication( RAG) that some of them belong/associate with.
Rem not all jurno's are whiter than white

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4044 - 28/12/2011 14:49:47    1087523

TheRoad
County: Galway
Posts: 473

1087477 I think its fantastic that these irresponsible county boards are being exposed.The costs of running inter county teams has gotten way out of hand, and it is very likely that county boards will start to collapse in the near future,as they are spending money that they simply dont have (a carbon copy of our government 5 years ago)Name and shame these guys.Anti Gaa?These journalists could well be doing the Gaa a favour.
P.S. Ulsterman,in reply to your piece......YAWN!

Exactly, some of these CBs are spending money like its going out of fashion.
Im thinkin especially of my neighbours in Kildare, who despite almost bankrupting themselves in an attempt to emulate Laois' achievements of 2003, have still not looked close to winning a Leinster.
Hapless foolhardy or naive? Hard to say really.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 28/12/2011 15:19:54    1087532

the point is these journalists are quick to put pen to paper on negative gaa headlines like how much county boards are spending and fill columns but their not quick to fill columns with reports on gaa matches like they do with soccer thats not even played in ireland.
its the same as rte the gaa should be looking for far more air time on the rte news just look at the highest tv sports viewings for the year the gaa dominate it on rte but yet rte continue to give soccer from britian the main headlines on the news and the gaa barley gets a mention on it the bosses in the gaa should be giving them a reminder of who is pulling in their largest audiences or threaten to leave rte for the championship matches

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/12/2011 16:14:43    1087549

Exactly, some of these CBs are spending money like its going out of fashion.
Im thinkin especially of my neighbours in Kildare, who despite almost bankrupting themselves in an attempt to emulate Laois' achievements of 2003, have still not looked close to winning a Leinster.
Hapless foolhardy or naive? Hard to say really.

Ah yes those heady successful years around 2003 back when ye were able to write-off 42,000euro from your county board finances after it simply went "missing"!

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 28/12/2011 16:47:37    1087567

These hacks have to fill their space if the game was poor they have to have a angle to fill that space.Many of them know little about the game apart from eugene mcgee the others waffle about blanket defences pulling men back putting one forward not a clue.Also our sport is the most important in the country rugby will never count on our level.They don,t hate gaa they are paid to create peoples emotions.

mickeylinden (Monaghan) - Posts: 587 - 28/12/2011 18:06:13    1087593

Because the gaa is supposed to be amateur the hacks are always looking for an angle to see where the money has gone . Hoping to get a story on some player or a coach getting payed. rugby and soccer is not as big a scoop.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 28/12/2011 18:34:52    1087606

Ata Cliath,

Why do these hacks not follow the money trail in the Soccer clubs.
You never hear about the Soccer club that is thousands in debt and the men collecting the tickets/money at the gate gets get his E 150.00 per night.
Then again if everone else is getting paid why not the gate men.

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4044 - 28/12/2011 19:05:18    1087613

What is the G.A.A. supporter without a big chip on their shoulders ? When the chamionships are at their height the G.A.A. gets massive exposure but when there is no off field action it is only right that the G.A.A journalists report from county boards. Their reports show up the stupidity of County Boards and the level of money that is being spent on teams many with no decent return. If highlighting these costs menas that the County Board cuts back on the number of backrrom pesonnel hanging on to teams so be it for the better

N16Calling (UK) - Posts: 260 - 28/12/2011 19:16:40    1087617

doublehop
County: Kildare
Posts: 1436

1087567
Exactly, some of these CBs are spending money like its going out of fashion.
Im thinkin especially of my neighbours in Kildare, who despite almost bankrupting themselves in an attempt to emulate Laois' achievements of 2003, have still not looked close to winning a Leinster.
Hapless foolhardy or naive? Hard to say really.

Ah yes those heady successful years around 2003 back when ye were able to write-off 42,000euro from your county board finances after it simply went "missing"!

Quality response!!

kingpuck71 (Derry) - Posts: 691 - 29/12/2011 11:18:48    1087655

the rugby media are 'looked after' far better by the IRFU and provinces.

as well as that, if you don't write positive pieces about the rugby, you can be sure that they will fall out of favour for scoops, leaks, interviews etc due to the centralised nature of the PR setup in rugby

whereas there is no overall control of the GAA message. each club and county board handle their own affairs

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1903 - 29/12/2011 11:28:27    1087656

It's just journalistic filler material while there is no League or Championship up & running. Once they kick in, none of this will be mentioned.

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 29/12/2011 11:58:02    1087662

Some good points on this thread. Problem is many of the new journalistic kids are just biding their time till they land on Television and/or radio. Few if any have played or participated as Gaelic players. Most hacks suffer from moral cowardice ie they will hurt feelings,incite anger,and be totally insensitive to the human conditiion in the "interests of good journalism". However they all have a price and will "kill" a story if the price is right.Especially if it gives them leverage to call in a favour at a later date. 40 years ago my wise father advised me against a career in journalism insisting it was beneath me and my familys`principles. With regard to the media in general they are very devious when one of their own is implicated in anything scandalous.These stories take ages to get legs.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 29/12/2011 13:49:51    1087697