08/10/2011 12:28:16
Seamus89
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As for the viewing figures, well duh, Andorra-v-Ireland? The rugby equivalent of that would be Ireland-v-any choice of 170 teams. And no one would watch it.
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JuanPeron (Westmeath) - Posts: 177 - 08/10/2011 12:46:33    1048644

We have a big one on Tuesday.And bear in mind that the game is an evening kick off. Any chance The Aviva will be filled like it was for every Six Nations game ? Oh I forgot Leinster filled it against Toulouse this year too. Fair point on Bloodgate. That was despicable. Are you telling me that happens in every game every week in rugby? Diving ,lying down, rolling around holding your head or your leg and getting up when your opponent is booked. Face it soccer is now a business that is rotten to the core on and off the field. Like I said for intensity, competitiveness, excitement and honesty of spirit the rugby world cup is miles ahead of the soccer when it gets to the knockout stages.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 08/10/2011 13:02:48    1048655

Diving ,lying down, rolling around holding your head or your leg and getting up when your opponent is booked. Face it soccer is now a business that is rotten to the core on and off the field. Like I said for intensity, competitiveness, excitement and honesty of spirit the rugby world cup is miles ahead of the soccer when it gets to the knockout stages.

1. There is every bit as much cheating in rugby, in fact there's probably a lot more. Of course there isn't as much faking injury, because it's a contact sport and that just wouldn't happen-that nonsense sickens me anyway. Also, the respect shown to refs is much greater than in soccer. But other than that there's probably way more cheating/negative play/living on the edge in rugby than there is in soccer.

2. Soccer is now a business? Really Greengrass? I thought that it was an amateur sport where the players get together a few evenings of the week and have a few training sessions, play their game at the weekend, and then go back to work.

Also, is rugby not a business? Do the rugby players not also get paid? Stupid comment.

3. More intensity than soccer? No, wouldn't agree with that. The physicality adds to it alright, but there are a lot of boring rugby games where both teams are just going through the motions. Ditto excitement. Soccer is far more competitive at every level, at least in soccer you'll never know who'll get to the knockout stages, unlike that nonsense in the Rugby 'World Cup'.

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 08/10/2011 18:17:39    1048771

08/10/2011 18:17:39
Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 2339

1048771 Diving ,lying down, rolling around holding your head or your leg and getting up when your opponent is booked. Face it soccer is now a business that is rotten to the core on and off the field. Like I said for intensity, competitiveness, excitement and honesty of spirit the rugby world cup is miles ahead of the soccer when it gets to the knockout stages.

1. There is every bit as much cheating in rugby, in fact there's probably a lot more. Of course there isn't as much faking injury, because it's a contact sport and that just wouldn't happen-that nonsense sickens me anyway. Also, the respect shown to refs is much greater than in soccer. But other than that there's probably way more cheating/negative play/living on the edge in rugby than there is in soccer.

2. Soccer is now a business? Really Greengrass? I thought that it was an amateur sport where the players get together a few evenings of the week and have a few training sessions, play their game at the weekend, and then go back to work.

Also, is rugby not a business? Do the rugby players not also get paid? Stupid comment.

3. More intensity than soccer? No, wouldn't agree with that. The physicality adds to it alright, but there are a lot of boring rugby games where both teams are just going through the motions. Ditto excitement. Soccer is far more competitive at every level, at least in soccer you'll never know who'll get to the knockout stages, unlike that nonsense in the Rugby 'World Cup'.

There is every bit as much cheating in rugby as soccer, teams in all sports at the top level will do everything in their power to get an edge be that hurling, g. football, soccer, tennis etc
Rugby has had the tradition of bring known as a sport for thugs played by gentleman while soccer was a sport for gentlemen played by thugs
Greengrass was talking about the business centric soccer that is the premiership, where many players whinge, whine and moan if their wages are only 80,000 pounds not 100,000 pounds a week. They are not in the real world on that money to play sport

Rugby is more intensive than soccer
For example, in an 80-minute match, a loose forward can expect to burn about 2000 kCal, compared to 1 700 kCal for backline players. This is 25% higher than what has been measured for professional soccer players. By way of comparison, a 90kg man running a half-marathon (21km) burns about the same amount of energy as a Super 14 player every weekend!
Source(s):
Ross Tucker has PhD in Exercise Physiology from the UCT Faculty of Health Sciences and is currently a member of Paul Treu's SA Sevens management team

You say "there are a lot of boring rugby games where both teams are just going through the motions. Ditto excitement. Soccer is far more competitive at every level, at least in soccer you'll never know who'll get to the knockout stages, unlike that nonsense in the Rugby 'World Cup'. "

And there is never soccer matches where teams are going through the motions.... rugby in comparison to soccer, is very difficult to play an entire game while going through the motions which can happen in soccer as if a player is going through the motions and carries a ball into contact can potentially be seriously hurt if they go into the tackle area too lackadaisically

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/10/2011 18:51:58    1048788

Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 2339

1048771 Diving ,lying down, rolling around holding your head or your leg and getting up when your opponent is booked. Face it soccer is now a business that is rotten to the core on and off the field. Like I said for intensity, competitiveness, excitement and honesty of spirit the rugby world cup is miles ahead of the soccer when it gets to the knockout stages.

1. There is every bit as much cheating in rugby, in fact there's probably a lot more. Of course there isn't as much faking injury, because it's a contact sport and that just wouldn't happen-that nonsense sickens me anyway. Also, the respect shown to refs is much greater than in soccer. But other than that there's probably way more cheating/negative play/living on the edge in rugby than there is in soccer.

No there is not and well you know it. Everybody in all top class sports looks for an edge and a lot play on the edge. The "nonsense" you refer to is a lot more than that . It is blatant cheating and it has been called that by frustrated people in soccer. It is endemic and children are now mimicing it. It is not unique to soccer as it is now creeping in to Gaelic football. No other sport is as infected with this sort of cheating to the same extent that soccer is. Just think Didier Drogba and compare him to Brian O Driscoll


2. Soccer is now a business? Really Greengrass? I thought that it was an amateur sport where the players get together a few evenings of the week and have a few training sessions, play their game at the weekend, and then go back to work.

Also, is rugby not a business? Do the rugby players not also get paid? Stupid comment.

Stupid and dishonest response. You ignored the second part of that sentence....."that is rotten to the core both on and off the field"

3. More intensity than soccer? No, wouldn't agree with that. The physicality adds to it alright, but there are a lot of boring rugby games where both teams are just going through the motions. Ditto excitement. Soccer is far more competitive at every level, at least in soccer you'll never know who'll get to the knockout stages, unlike that nonsense in the Rugby 'World Cup'.

The physicality adds to it ?? The physicality is it. That is what intensity is all about. Intensity is all about the contest. The contest for the ball, the contest for the score, the contest for the win. Soccer by it's nature is almost a non contact sport. That is a pity because the administrators have sanitised it beyond belief. Look at the contest for the ball today. Soccer is many things , and I am a fan but intense it is most certainly not. The Premiership is the most intense league in the world or so we are told. I was at a Premiership game a fortnight ago. It was competitive, exciting and enjoyable. Intense it was most certainly not. Thankfully it was almost devoid of cheating too. As for not knowing who will get to the knockout stages a pound to a penny says that Man. Utd, Chelsea, Barca, AC , Bayern . Real Madrid, and Arsenal make the knockout stages of The Champions League. Why because they do so every year. Come to think of it they win their leagues every year too. Competitive my a**e. The more money you have the better you are. The better you do the more money you get. Which gets us back to point number two. What other sport would burn off the ability of clubs like Ajax to compete ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 08/10/2011 20:18:11    1048841