Come the 100th anniversary of the Easter Rising I believe that Ireland will move rapidly towards unification and that all Irishmen, Protestant, Catholic and dissenter with live as one and at peace under the Irish tricolour.

Martin McGuinness will prove to be an inspirational leader and the hunger for self determination, which has sadly been spirited out of many young Irishmen and women during the last twenty years when greed, tracker mortages and possessions became of paramount concern, will return.

Unionist no longer fear Irishmen and it seems that many of them now believe that they have more in common with their Irish brothers and sisters than the English and Scots across the water.

It will be a great day for our country and hopefully we can rebuild as a proper republic and because a valuable member state of modern Europe. No country will have anything to fear from us while we are at peace and as one, God bless Ireland and god bless our European neighbours.

Tiocfaidh ar La
I can feel it in my bones

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 22/09/2011 12:44:56    1040283

ill give this a bump in 2016 so we can all have a good laugh, in 2116 when we are all long gone im sure someelse will do likewise and have a good laugh, its will create a great debate though on what was the tricolour so i suppose there will some good in it :D

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 22/09/2011 12:57:49    1040293

don't worry you and your brethern have nothing to fear. you might actually enjoy it.

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 22/09/2011 13:02:32    1040298

you right Che we will absolutely love reminding the SF brigade of yet another epic failure.

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 22/09/2011 13:26:33    1040317

You are entitled to your beliefs Che and are well able to express them in an intelligent fashion.
I think you are living in fairy dreamland though. Economic reality will be the deciding factor for a long time to come.
As long as London wants to/has to prop up the 6 counties financially with makey-up civil service jobs etc
then leave them at it.
I look at the billions that the North is costing the British Gov. every year as a form of poetic justice for taking it over
in the first place.
The status quo is probably suiting every-one far better than a united Ireland would.

RAM85 (Westmeath) - Posts: 978 - 22/09/2011 13:55:36    1040341

RAM85
County: Westmeath
Posts: 952

1040341 You are entitled to your beliefs Che and are well able to express them in an intelligent fashion.
I think you are living in fairy dreamland though. Economic reality will be the deciding factor for a long time to come.
As long as London wants to/has to prop up the 6 counties financially with makey-up civil service jobs etc
then leave them at it.
I look at the billions that the North is costing the British Gov. every year as a form of poetic justice for taking it over
in the first place.
The status quo is probably suiting every-one far better than a united Ireland would.


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well put, the harsh reality is the british government want rid and the irish government dont want purely on economic terms. its no wonder all the politicians in the north are completely illerate when it comes to economics as they never need any economics as the blank cheque comes in every year from london. believe me to all the romantics in the north ye really would not like the harash reality that is fending for youselves that would be a united ireland. safely put 80% of civil servive jobs would be wipped out over night and that is a harsh reality the those workers would face at the ballot box when disolving the union, likewise in the south we dont owe the people of the north anything and never did so whinging to us looking for similiar preferential treatement that you got form westminister would be completely futile - what would happen then? i mean when the leader of a political party does not know the vate rate of his self prefessed home country- its really sets alarm bells off- so its no wonder when we hear pearse doherty and his one free for everyone and pots of gold at the end of rainbows economics it infuriates the irish people as these have no grasp of reality. but as i said for this untile ireland 'narnia' thing to ever happen- how is anyone going to convince the people of the republic that they will at a minimum have to pay 10% more income tax to cover the non existent economy that is the north - now that is one hard sell and one where romantacism and reality at a ballot box will differ greatly, and lets be 100% clear a refferendum in the republic where only those in the republic havea vote is the only way to make this happen- so SF need to get 51% of the republic to believe them when at present about 10% do- lads the in the pigs might fly category of thinking!!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 22/09/2011 14:13:12    1040352

So all the romantics in the north are all a bit like Eddie Vedder are they ballboy and should be more like Bono?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12365 - 22/09/2011 14:27:57    1040362

Tiocfaidh ar La? That saying alone is enough to give us an idea of the maturity you lack.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 22/09/2011 14:28:47    1040363

liathroidboy
County: Mayo
Posts: 4684

1040352 RAM85
County: Westmeath
Posts: 952

1040341 You are entitled to your beliefs Che and are well able to express them in an intelligent fashion.
I think you are living in fairy dreamland though. Economic reality will be the deciding factor for a long time to come.
As long as London wants to/has to prop up the 6 counties financially with makey-up civil service jobs etc
then leave them at it.
I look at the billions that the North is costing the British Gov. every year as a form of poetic justice for taking it over
in the first place.
The status quo is probably suiting every-one far better than a united Ireland would.


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well put, the harsh reality is the british government want rid and the irish government dont want purely on economic terms. its no wonder all the politicians in the north are completely ILLERATE when it comes to economics as they never need any economics as the blank cheque comes in every year from london. believe me to all the romantics in the north ye really would not like the harash reality that is fending for youselves that would be a united ireland. safely put 80% of civil servive jobs would be wipped out over night and that is a harsh reality the those workers would face at the ballot box when disolving the union, likewise in the south we dont owe the people of the north anything and never did so whinging to us looking for similiar preferential treatement that you got form westminister would be completely futile - what would happen then? i mean when the leader of a political party does not know the vate rate of his self prefessed home country- its really sets alarm bells off- so its no wonder when we hear pearse doherty and his one free for everyone and pots of gold at the end of rainbows economics it infuriates the irish people as these have no grasp of reality. but as i said for this untile ireland 'narnia' thing to ever happen- how is anyone going to convince the people of the republic that they will at a minimum have to pay 10% more income tax to cover the non existent economy that is the north - now that is one hard sell and one where romantacism and reality at a ballot box will differ greatly, and lets be 100% clear a refferendum in the republic where only those in the republic havea vote is the only way to make this happen- so SF need to get 51% of the republic to believe them when at present about 10% do- lads the in the pigs might fly category of thinking!!

i suppose they are all off learning basic literacy before becoming economically LITERATE/LERATE, you decide which one.

pig.ignorant (Derry) - Posts: 655 - 22/09/2011 14:28:58    1040364

The Republic couldn't afford a weekend in Bundoran, how the hell are they supposed to afford to support N.I.. We'll be suckling on the financial teat of Britain for a while yet says this interested observer

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 22/09/2011 15:06:25    1040387

Come the presedential election, come the 100th year after the rising and come the decade which follows that, a decade where I believe Irishmen and women will revert to forgotten principles and abandon their new found greed, we as a nation will move closer to a United Republic.... much closer.

The Unionists in the north are moving away from Britain both physically and spiritually and a sea change of attitude in the Republic which will be brought about by austerity and hardship will herald the birth of a new nation circa 2032.

Britain has nothing to fear, Irish protestants have nothing to fear and from rock bottom we as Irishmen will realise that there is more to life than 10 per cent this and ten per cent that.

Viva la Republic

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 22/09/2011 15:09:33    1040389

RAM85
County: Westmeath
Posts: 952

1040341 You are entitled to your beliefs Che and are well able to express them in an intelligent fashion.
I think you are living in fairy dreamland though. Economic reality will be the deciding factor for a long time to come.
As long as London wants to/has to prop up the 6 counties financially with makey-up civil service jobs etc
then leave them at it.
I look at the billions that the North is costing the British Gov. every year as a form of poetic justice for taking it over
in the first place.
The status quo is probably suiting every-one far better than a united Ireland would.

to say that britain pumps money into derry, antrim, down, fermanagh, armagh and tyrone because of some poetic justice is very naive. britain doesnt care about anyone on this island (all 32 counties), they have been saying for years there's no economic reason for them to be here. and just because the other 26 cant afford to have 6 more isnt stopping them from leaving either. they will hand the 6 back at the blink of an eye, and not worry if the 26 can afford us or not. this will happen when more people want it than dont. its that simple

pig.ignorant (Derry) - Posts: 655 - 22/09/2011 15:13:37    1040394

LIATH\BBOY\OGALL
all the politicians in the north are completely illerate when it comes to economics


ILLERATE?.....black, pot, the, kettle calling !!

Meath_bhoy (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 22/09/2011 16:42:06    1040489

Any move towards reunification will be jointly and gladly funded by Britain,USA and the EU.Britain would be the most delighted to spend massive amounts to have us move forward as one country.It would pale in comparison to what they have spent these last 40 years in keeping us apart.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 22/09/2011 18:29:45    1040593

'Any move towards reunification will be jointly and gladly funded by Britain,USA and the EU'

So I keep hearing but Seanie could you tell me A) Why they would subsidise re-unification and B) Is there any evidence to suggest they would be prepared to do this?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 22/09/2011 18:56:56    1040611

I think the British Government would assist in re-unification certainly, but the idea that they would pay for it all out of their back pockets is ridiculous. I think having NI costs the British Exchequer about 5 billion a year? Say if the British Government committed to giving 20 billion over the space of 10 years after re-unification, it would be helpful, but it would still require a huge sacrifice in Ireland itself. Secondly, security costs could well go up as Loyalist paramilitaries emerge once more, acting as the IRA in reverse.

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 22/09/2011 20:29:21    1040673

Jim Allister knows the score about Irish re-unification. Hence he set up his own party in an act of panic. He knows its coming, Jim is a very educated man.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 22/09/2011 20:57:18    1040699

I have no doubt the British Government would as in the long term it would make sense for them. But that would be a drop in the ocean. Why would the EU and the USA pour billions into it year after year?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 22/09/2011 20:57:33    1040700

All patriots would be willing to pay through the nose to free our land from British oppression.

Hail Ireland! Hail the 32 counties, 6 of them in bondage! Hail Celtic! Hail!

HorseOutside (UK) - Posts: 398 - 22/09/2011 21:32:27    1040732

pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3932

1040611 'Any move towards reunification will be jointly and gladly funded by Britain,USA and the EU'

So I keep hearing but Seanie could you tell me A) Why they would subsidise re-unification and B) Is there any evidence to suggest they would be prepared to do this?
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I think you'll find its because a certain Patrique keeps regurgitating the same old nonsense.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/09/2011 21:42:04    1040742