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President Marty?

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Brolly
County: Monaghan

What is it with mayo posters on this site? they are head and shoulders above the rest as regards anti republicanism and anti all things north and seem to have some sympathy with unionist voters.. i cant get it really..


A few mayo wums but nothing more. Mayo has very strong republican tradition. Indeed a rebellion took place here in 1798, a neighbour of mine also died on hunger strike. Thank god those days are over. Time to move on......I think Mary would make a good but he has no hope of getting elected. The Irish media would love to move the queen into the aras in my opinion.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11651 - 23/09/2011 16:27:51    1041105

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Fair enough yew - it was a pretty sweeping statement on my behalf. I acknowledge mayo's rep links - thats why i cant get a lot of the mayo posters opinions.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 23/09/2011 16:41:02    1041120

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Also agree yew that its time to move.. If the media could also do that instead of digging and digging into days gone by.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 23/09/2011 16:42:11    1041124

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Why is Norris not being hounded the same way that McGuiness has? Especially in the light of all the sex abuse allegations against the catholic church that is currently flavour of the month with the darlings of the media. Why is he not being questioned about the poet he claimed not to know who was linked to sex crimes against Nepalese children? Why is he not being questioned about his views on the leaders of the 1916 rising?

I have listened to one load of codswallop on shannonside fm radio as they battle to get Norris on the ballot. Allegedly, in the name of democracy. Democracy my ass. What about morality! Cant's wait for the head to head. McGuiness will wipe them out, even with a hand picked audience. Let the people sing!

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 23/09/2011 16:43:03    1041129

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So to clarify. McGuinness will save us money on wages?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13819 - 23/09/2011 17:30:41    1041158

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Look I dont know what Martin Mc Guiness done in the 1970s 80s or early 90s. I have heard some of the acusations against him they may or may not be true I do not know but I am well enough aware that there are many agendas at work in the security forces and media north and south of the border. But what I do know without fear of contradiction from anyone is what Martin Mc Guiness has done since the early 90s. He together with Gerry Adams has brought the republican movement forward into the democratic process and they are currently active and able activists in moving the republican agenda with peaceful means. No previous IRA member or leader has been strong enough to do this and the Irish people have elected some of them as Taoiseach and President. This is a greater man than any who have gone before him on this peculkiarly Irish Road to Damascus.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 23/09/2011 17:40:45    1041168

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Omagh stick to the point I am making, i never mentioned a broad, speaking for everyone apology, i am saying that yesterday he said he has not being involved in any persons death, can you tell me how that is possible?

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 23/09/2011 17:45:27    1041172

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Oh did the IRA issue an apology for the thousands of people they killed? That makes it all right then, that apology more than makes up for the lives they ruined. How big of Sinn Fein/IRA

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 23/09/2011 17:55:49    1041183

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The rabid Unionists and Blueshirts in the 26 county political and media Establishments are panicking big time and have once again contrived against McGuinness as they did with Sinn Fein and Gerry Adams in the recent election. They are partitionist and revisionist in their mindset and completely hostile to Irish Republicanism and Northern Nationalists. They are disgusting bigots of the worst kind and along with the Orange Order and TUV in the North are the last main obstacle to peace on this island. They have an agenda against Republicans, the trade unions and working people and anything that impinges on their narrow, right wing, Unionist self interests will be attacked. Eamon Dunphy had a great article today in which he completely exposed this horrible crowd.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 23/09/2011 18:44:27    1041205

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Ulsterman what paper was the artcile in can you provide a link

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 23/09/2011 20:57:29    1041277

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On the subject of opinion polls. We were subject to a plethora of them all showing darling David in the lead. That was until Martin entered the race. I can't see a poll anywhere. Tried googling it but can't find anything after 4th September. It's a funny old world. I would have thought the establishment would have been keen to see who is leading the race. There ye go now. Makes ye think.

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 23/09/2011 21:00:55    1041280

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For the 3rd time. Is it not unwise for a serving Minister to comment on the fitness or otherwise of a presidential candidate for the following reasons. 1 Should Martin be elected will he resign because (a )He does not respect the head of state and (b) he does nort respect the will of the people he serves. and 2 would the media remain silent were he to question the fitness of David Norris?

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 23/09/2011 21:33:12    1041309

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To be honest I am glad Norris got a nomination. I will be twice as happy when he fails against McGuinness, and I will rub it into his supporters so God damn much, I really will.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 23/09/2011 21:35:28    1041313

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Just saw the latest poll, Norris on 27%, top of the pile. I just don't understand this. How could the Irish people want a paedophile supporter in the Aras? This is disgusting.

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 23/09/2011 21:41:06    1041323

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I'm loving this, I know its all pretty immaterial given the role that they are battling for but it seems that real battle is for the very soul of the Irish nation itself. One thing about this is that its got people talking and debating like never before. We are also now seeing the true colours of the various media outlets and established broadcasters, Ireland has not seen anything like it in a generation, my question is, exactly what do people fear most about a McGuinness presidency?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 23/09/2011 21:42:20    1041327

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Seamus,

Dont go by the polls, its an agenda being driven by the media to get Norris elected. They're basing it on the theory "if you know a winner back it" but I hope the Irish people wont fall for it.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 23/09/2011 21:51:30    1041334

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Brend
What everyone in the establishment fears most is a united Ireland. And if Martin were elected the Establishment and media could no longer call Sinn Fein the boogey men they like to portray them as. Regardless of what borders or jurisdictions are in place the minute Sinn Fein form a government even as a junior partner in the republic and they are also in government in the north then Ireland is unified. Just think about this. Easter 2016 and President Mc Guiness is joined on the steps of the GPO with Taoiseach/Tainiste Adams and DFM O'Dowd then Ireland will have already been united.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 23/09/2011 21:59:11    1041343

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McGuiness is the best of a bad bunch.

sashman (Kildare) - Posts: 465 - 24/09/2011 10:51:04    1041374

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derryman
County: Derry
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What everyone in the establishment fears most is a united Ireland. And if Martin were elected the Establishment and media could no longer call Sinn Fein the boogey men they like to portray them as. Regardless of what borders or jurisdictions are in place the minute Sinn Fein form a government even as a junior partner in the republic and they are also in government in the north then Ireland is unified. Just think about this. Easter 2016 and President Mc Guiness is joined on the steps of the GPO with Taoiseach/Tainiste Adams and DFM O'Dowd then Ireland will have already been united.

Thats a dream derryman, SF are highly unlikely to have a Taoiseach in the near future. The way I see it, we've already got rid of Fianna Failure, they will never recover and are completely insignificant now in Irish politics. What we must do now is get rid of Fine Gael and Labour. The easiest of the two will be Labour, if you look at the smallers parties in unpopular coalitions they usually get decimated by the public. The PDs' the Greens, and the Lib Dems in Britain are such examples. That leaves us with an interesting scenario, FG vs SF. SF could well become the second largest party in the next Dáil, giving FG an outrageous dilemma.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 24/09/2011 11:19:34    1041385

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Seargeant I spent many years dreaming that Nationalists might be given equal footing in the occupied 6. I spent some years dreaming that Sinn Fein would become a political force in Ireland both have happened. I will continue to dream.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 24/09/2011 11:45:12    1041397

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