Mulligan Eamonn
County: All
Posts: 683

I will believe the IRA alright though.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 30/09/2011 13:00:06    1044458

first of all im 29...hardly a youngster out drinking and partying..im married and have a child. secondly where in my post did i say i was an IRA sympathiser..i simply stated that i am a republican and a proud one...i do not condone violence but war on any playing field brings casualties and the catholics of the 6 counties were treated like rats in the sewer and were lured into a war the brits always wanted because it meant they could propagandise the IRA as a terrorist murderous group. however i wasnt around in 1971 and my family wasnt torutured like man in derry and belfast and besides, so i dont know how i would have reacted.

would any of you have reacted differently to martin were you in his shoes in 1969/70? be honest...you would have done the same so dont judge..the important fact is he has led the republican movement away from violence and now opposes the dissidents..there is almost a level playing ground and it is down to people like him and sinnfein that there is one because the southern government forgot whether by accident or design about the nationalists in the north...

yes our relationship with britain is now 'amicable' and people will tro out lines such as dont bite the hand that feeds you, but we should never let britain forget her past misdemeanours just because they have given us a few quid and now hold our testicles (due to the shambles of a government/s from bertie right through)! queen elizabethwas given a heroes welcome by mary mcaleese and a CHOSEN welcoming committee, for it was chosen..now compare that with the one obama got, or the pope would get...not to get away from the fact but ireland need not be ashamed of being led by martin, for he is no different to mandela despite what many would perceive..

ballyoisin_bomb (Monaghan) - Posts: 183 - 30/09/2011 13:05:14    1044464

Paddy mentally handicapped kids still know the difference between right and wrong and if their handicap is severe why were they not supervised by their parents or a app-rote adult.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 30/09/2011 13:09:40    1044467

Mulligan Eamonn
County: All
Posts: 684

1044467
Paddy mentally handicapped kids still know the difference between right and wrong and if their handicap is severe why were they not supervised by their parents or a app-rote adult.

Fair play, just when I thought your average shinner couldnt get any lower.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 30/09/2011 13:14:37    1044475

Mulligan Eamonn
County: All
Posts: 685

1044467 Paddy mentally handicapped kids still know the difference between right and wrong and if their handicap is severe why were they not supervised by their parents or a app-rote adult.

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That tells you all you need to know about the IQ levels of the average republican and they cry foul when people say republicans are the complete **** of the earth! I mean folks the stereotype well and truly does fit regarding republicans and the posters on here are no different. The funny thing is their great great grandchildren will be just as bitter and twisted and will we pay them one bit of heed.

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 30/09/2011 13:24:15    1044481

paddy you may sit on high, believing you have the moral high ground with the whole mentally handicap issue, but, answer me this - do you believe you are any better than someone trying (disgustingly i might add) to justify the murder, by continuously probing those people for the reply that i can only assume that you want. i get the impression you know the replies you are going to get but are steadfast in your pursuit of those answers. after reading over the posts, i cant seperate you from the guys you are trying to make look bad.

pig.ignorant (Derry) - Posts: 655 - 30/09/2011 13:27:08    1044483

ballyoisin_bomb
County: Monaghan
Posts: 88


Yes but why murder women collecting census forms, why murder mentally handicapped kids, why march 11 men off from a bus coming home from work and murder them because they were protestant like in Kingsmill? thats such a small collection there are many more stories. I am not a reilgious man at all, but if I was, I would hope that the "Republican heroes" that carried out those attacks are/will burning in hell.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 30/09/2011 13:28:37    1044485

would any of you have reacted differently to martin were you in his shoes in 1969/70? be honest...you would have done the same so dont judge..

Ballyoisin the reality is the vast, vast majority of people did not do what McGuinness did when in the same situation, they did not join paramilitary groups or carry out those terrible acts of violence

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 30/09/2011 13:45:49    1044500

Paddy did I say I am a shinner no its you who assume's it like a lot of things you assume and then they become fact as far as your concerned take off your Blueshirt/Brit specs.

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 30/09/2011 13:46:40    1044501

Pacifists and peace lovers are just other names for people who collaborate with the oppressor. The Pacifist is as surely a traitor to his nation and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer. Thats a fact.

People like patrick o'gall would have us tolerate injustice, but tolerance is only a virtue of a man with no convictions, and I think its fair to say, there are many on this forum with no convictions.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 30/09/2011 13:47:19    1044504

paddyogall
County: Mayo
Posts: 4281

You're the man who keeps pushing the agenda about a child with mental problems. I think it is you who could not sink any lower, using a mentally disturbed child to try and vindicate your argument. Shocking tactic, appalling really.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 30/09/2011 13:49:09    1044507

Theres no point arguing with the connaught rangers.A certain mind set exists out west for some reason and it's futile to argue with them.It's surprising really as their alternative was hell.The uncle Tom complex really does seems ingrained.Maybe it was treat them mean and keep them keen.Well it sure worked

northpole (Derry) - Posts: 739 - 30/09/2011 13:59:09    1044511

Sergeant_Slash
County: Cavan
Posts: 1058


The IRA murdered this child because they said he was a tout, they later admitted he wasnt a tout. Your heroes did this and has to recognised. A fellow hero worshipper of the IRA said that this mentally handicapped child should of known better. Should of known better how? he did not nothing wrong. Now until the likes of McGuinness and Adams get the names of the members of the IRA who carried out this act in the public domain so that they will be proscecuted, then there names will be forever linked with it.

I have nothing against ther likes of mary Lou MacDonal, pearse Doherty et al in Sinn Fein, but I certainly do against the likes of McGuinness et al. The sooner that Sinn fein get rid of the likes of these the better.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 30/09/2011 14:29:57    1044530

Sergeant_Slash
County: Cavan
Posts: 1058

Honestly do you not see the injustice that the IRA carried out.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 30/09/2011 14:31:24    1044532

1. I am 28 years of age.
2. I am from Mayo but live between Dublin and Omagh.
3. I have no loyalty to any party whatsoever.
4. I am a proud Irishman.
5. In my opinion Martin McGuinness is a liar when it comes to the most serious of issues therefore I cannot give him my vote.
6. I find the hardline line republican attitude of some people on here very frustrating, as do I the over the top posts from the anti shinners.
7. I am not a west brit and the response from idiots within the republican ranks that I seem to be because of my stance is very irritating.
8. I believe we will never have a 32 county Ireland and I don't believe it can be achieved without more bloodshed.
9. Martin McGuinness will not be elected president of Ireland.
10.This thread has become non-sensical and shoud be closed.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 30/09/2011 14:56:40    1044564

You're the man who keeps pushing the agenda about a child with mental problems. I think it is you who could not sink any lower, using a mentally disturbed child to try and vindicate your argument. Shocking tactic, appalling really.

Agreed x 1000.

Also agree with jonny that the thread has descended into farce.

Good luck all.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 30/09/2011 15:19:25    1044577

i think what you on here who are pushing this mentally handicapped thing forget to realise is that mcguinness had no hand in that killing..he may have been in the command structure but he did not give the command...

and again why am i being tarred with this brush that i am an apparent IRA sympathiser..yes im from the border, and i have met with the socalled british justice in my youth, being beaten savagely in the back of a landrover at halloween for having the cheek to wear an irish army uniform in derry city. did they arrest me? no because nits not illegal, they just whipped me and left my lying in the gutter like the good old ruc. and this was 1974 it was 2005..

yet i have never resorted to violence...my point is i believe mcguinness is the best man for the job and he has the right to run...if elected i say many that opposed him will suddenely be kissing his feet

ballyoisin_bomb (Monaghan) - Posts: 183 - 30/09/2011 15:29:34    1044587