northpole
County: Derry
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Will the rest of the Shinners follow his lead? will he pay for all food, utilities or transport out of his pocket if elected? then maybe his is going somewhere.

Marty's offer is not even as good as Senator Labhras O Murchu who promises not to even take a wage.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 19/09/2011 19:16:27    1038215

paddyogall
County: Mayo
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1038215 northpole
County: Derry
Posts: 719

Will the rest of the Shinners follow his lead? will he pay for all food, utilities or transport out of his pocket if elected? then maybe his is going somewhere.

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You are the master of misinformation. Why should Sinn Fein subsidise the wages of the Political Class of Fine gael Labour and FF. They have already pressed for cuts in the wage and \Pensions of all Public Servants. themselves included but your mate Enda wont have a bar of it.

Marty's offer is not even as good as Senator Labhras O Murchu who promises not to even take a wage

I would expect that man to work for nothing anyway.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 19/09/2011 21:15:30    1038344

The hypocrisy and antipathy all weekend from the Southern media towards McGuinness has been nauseating. Last night on RTE's The Week In Politics Sinn Fein were castigated and treated abysmally and the show didn't hide it's bias against them while the usual Sunday print partitionists spewed out their Unionist guff. Tonight's Frontline show is about this and guess who is on.......Michael McDowell, well that sets the agenda already. What is really stomach churning is that politics in the 26 counties has been fought on the Civil War split for nearly a century, a conflict where there were atrocities committed as bad as anything the Provisionals or McGuinness are said to have done. Most of the Taoiseach's and Presidents of the Republic were involved in the war against Britain and the Civil War that followed so this whiter than white stuff we get is just factual nonsense. I believe that partitionism and anti-Northern sentiments within the Southern media and bodypolitik are far more to do with this than McGuinness's alleged IRA connections. If he was good enough for Ian Paisley, the DUP and Northern Unionist media why is he not good enough for the 26? Along with the Orange Order the ones still living in the past are to be mainly found in the South and many of them were NEVER harmed or touched by the Troubles.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 19/09/2011 21:20:44    1038351

derryman
County: Derry
Posts: 2771



Then why dont they channel the money into some Enterprise fund for entrepenueurs? the 1 million Euro of irish tax payers money they are putting into their party could be put to some use else where? If Marty really wanted to be in touch with the common man why doesnt he work for minimum wage? The average industrial wage is extremely high in Ireland.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 19/09/2011 21:20:45    1038352

Lads am gonna say this, Im drunk rite now, but i love ye all, and am gonna throw boxes on behalf of you all tonight, god bless HS and all on it.

laflour (Cavan) - Posts: 528 - 19/09/2011 21:30:26    1038368

We should make sure that no representative of the main political parties get the Presidency. They either presided over the corruption or sat in opposition mutely watching it going on. So i say no F.F., F.G., or Labour should get our votes. AND not Norris either. That narrows down the field.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 19/09/2011 21:34:29    1038375

Paddy why dont all the Fine Gael and Labour TDs and senators do what you are suggesting. The Sinn Fein members are committed to an ideal and the money one way or the other will go to promote that Ideal. FG s Ideal is now and always has been the same as FFs . Lets look after our rich mates.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 19/09/2011 21:34:57    1038376

Settle yourself there lad.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 19/09/2011 21:36:19    1038379

derryman
County: Derry
Posts: 2773

Sinn Fein are taking the moral high ground by saying they take the average industrial wage. Its a highly hypocritcal stance given that the VOTING and TAX PAYING CITIZENS dont save one cent. I high lighted voting and tax paying citizens because beyond those its no one elses business.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 19/09/2011 21:43:15    1038390

Well Paddy you will be pleased to know I am a Taxpaying Citizen . I even have an Irish Passport but due to an historical wrong I am not allowed to vote in my own countrys elections. Now Paddy I hope you are not suggesting that the non taxpaying citizens of Ireland have no business to have an opinion. There would be a lot of unemployed,pensioners and Students who may feel put out about it. Seamus might be very upset.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 19/09/2011 22:03:10    1038420

Never voted for Sinn Fein but will be voting for McGuinness at elast he has something worthwhile to say.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4954 - 20/09/2011 08:32:53    1038430

I laughed at McDowell last night. he claimed he wasn't about attacking anyone standing as president and they should have the right to do so. He then spends every spare moment attacking Martin McGuiness. Despite Sinn Fein's growing support in the country they do not have influence in the media, but I hope that the Irish people will see through this as they did in LOuth when Gerry Adams topped the poll. The media is powerful, just look at opinion polls in support of Norris. People can be brainwashed. Look out for more stage managed talk shows like last night's effort and the late late show. Sure if your friend raped and brutalised a 15 year old boy in Finglas or Malahide you would stand by him. Wouldn't you ? I can't believe that comment from Norris went unchallenged by Turbidy.

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 20/09/2011 08:38:21    1038434

Well Paddy you will be pleased to know I am a Taxpaying Citizen . I even have an Irish Passport but due to an historical wrong I am not allowed to vote in my own countrys elections. Now Paddy I hope you are not suggesting that the non taxpaying citizens of Ireland have no business to have an opinion. There would be a lot of unemployed,pensioners and Students who may feel put out about it. Seamus might be very upset.

Wouldn't be a bit upset Derryman. 25% of fellow students (or was it 'young voters', I can't remember now) voted for the Labour Party in the last election. That shows an incredible ignorance, and due to this I'd like to see voting rights reserved for people over the age of 25 in full time employment. I'd be happy to forfeit my right to vote if it ensured that Gilmore and Co. didn't get anywhere near Government Buildings. Ever.

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 20/09/2011 09:04:38    1038442

thistle_harps
County: UK
Posts: 745


As a former Justice Minister I am sure he is privy to things the general public don't know.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 20/09/2011 09:27:43    1038448

Mc Dowell is a nobody now, his opinion or his views are completely irrelevant, although the media still find a use for him when it comes to bashing the north.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 20/09/2011 09:46:10    1038469

paddyogall
County: Mayo
Posts: 4212

1038215 northpole
County: Derry
Posts: 719

Will the rest of the Shinners follow his lead? will he pay for all food, utilities or transport out of his pocket if elected? then maybe his is going somewhere.

Marty's offer is not even as good as Senator Labhras O Murchu who promises not to even take a wage.

What about Mitchell I think his name is?

northpole (Derry) - Posts: 739 - 20/09/2011 09:55:18    1038475

This is a very important Question from Fintan O'Toole in the Irish times. In my opinion the answer is a resounding no.

Should we appoint a head of State who could be liable to arrest for war crimes under international law?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0920/1224304412076.html

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 20/09/2011 09:57:49    1038479

northpole
County: Derry
Posts: 720

I couldnt care less what Mitchel is doing. He is not getting my vote anyway.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 20/09/2011 10:03:01    1038485

What criteria must be met by anybody wishing to cast a vote in the presidential election in the Republic of Ireland?

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 20/09/2011 10:04:49    1038491

seanie_boy
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2145


Well are you a Irish citizen Seanie? I know a lot of you nordies use British pasports (including nationalists) because it is cheaper. Are you a resident (Or even being a resident) of the Republic of Ireland?

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 20/09/2011 10:11:13    1038500