Cavan_Slasher
County: Cavan
Posts: 8571

1030854 Liathroid uses the same "learned off by heart" cliches in nearly every post but his spelling and punctuation is getting worse and ruining them !!
Pity because they were enjoyable and they proved that his only purpose on these boards is to wind people up !!

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your like a schoolgirl with a crush at this stage- its starting to become a bit of an obsession that you are going to have to come to terms with, following me around here all the time and contributing absolutely nothing- story of your life i suppose

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 09/09/2011 19:14:50    1030927

Good post Ulsterman. Now can someone tell me what links the Titanic to This event because I can not make any connection what ever.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 09/09/2011 20:47:01    1031023

RAM85
County: Westmeath
Posts: 943

1028968
Seanie-boy, someone from the other side of the fence could remind you about the "brave" people that
blew up the shopping centre in Manchester. Or were they freedom fighters?

This "victim tennis" is a waste of time.
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A typical unenlightened post from somebody who is clearly not good at the analogies.Had you said Shankill Rd,Portadown or Larne you might have drawn me in to an argument.Manchester is a city in England.The people involved in the Holy Cross dispute are all Belfast people.I suspect you mentioned Manchester as it sticks in your mind as bombs in England always got more media time than bombs or shootings in the north.The pro British media obviously did a good job on you.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 10/09/2011 10:35:33    1031100

seanie_boy
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2112

1031100 RAM85
County: Westmeath
Posts: 943

1028968
Seanie-boy, someone from the other side of the fence could remind you about the "brave" people that
blew up the shopping centre in Manchester. Or were they freedom fighters?

This "victim tennis" is a waste of time.
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A typical unenlightened post from somebody who is clearly not good at the analogies.Had you said Shankill Rd,Portadown or Larne you might have drawn me in to an argument.Manchester is a city in England.The people involved in the Holy Cross dispute are all Belfast people.I suspect you mentioned Manchester as it sticks in your mind as bombs in England always got more media time than bombs or shootings in the north.The pro British media obviously did a good job on you.

Seanie Im not sure it matters who they were trying to blow up does it?

Corrxxx (Kerry) - Posts: 584 - 10/09/2011 11:28:24    1031123

Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 4151

1030917 The 'alternative' route that people talk about was a back gate through St. Gabriel's school, across a mucky pitch and down a steep embankment which was simply dangerous for some people. It was like going from A to B through the rest of the aphabet, the tradesman's entrance to remind people they are second class. PP and Gammy are either on the deliberate wind up, want to annoy and rile as many as possible or simply know nothing of the situation and area. It was all about keeping the Orange jackboot on the Fenians neck, to show who was the boss but it blew back in their faces. Loyalism imploded after that and the UDA and UVF have spent the last decade in drug dealing feuds. As for the parents who weren't goimg to back down, they took their cue from Archbishop Desmond Tutu who walked with them and their children and told them they were second class to no one. If pp and gammy are genuinely involved with the GAA or are from the Nationalist tradition they are the ONLY Gaels or Irishmen I have ever heard defend the rancid, venemous, hateful scumbags who terrorised those children. I suggest they go on to YouTube and try to watch some of the footage. Shame on you for using this as your plaything or entertainment because no sane person could ever provide excuses for this medieval fundamental bigotry; go away the GAA doesn't want or need people like you. There are other websites where you can swap stories with likeminded individuals.

Excellent post Ulsterman. Have you noticed how quiet pp and the appropriately named gammy have gone ?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 10/09/2011 11:45:43    1031127

1031100 RAM85
County: Westmeath
Posts: 943

1028968
Seanie-boy, someone from the other side of the fence could remind you about the "brave" people that
blew up the shopping centre in Manchester. Or were they freedom fighters?

This "victim tennis" is a waste of time.


Silly post RAM85. Can you tell me who those little children who were terrorised were trying to blow up ? No one. They were only trying to go to school. I disagreed totally with everything the IRA did by the way.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 10/09/2011 11:50:24    1031130

'Excellent post Ulsterman. Have you noticed how quiet pp and the appropriately named gammy have gone ?'

He posted it late on a Friday night when I was in the pub, give the man a chance to respond. I have condemned those Loyalist protesters time and time again so to claim I haven't merely weakens your already fragile argument. I'm moving to the secondary issue, that given this protest was taken place these parents put their children through it for their own personal goals. This is completely wrong. Your argument that crossing a loyalist protest was less dangerous than crossing a mucky pitch is so laughable it doesn't warrant a rebuttal, you're really scraping the barrel with that one. As for your GAA comment I'm afraid I've never actually seen you post on a GAA matter without somehow mentioning the pro-British Irish media. Very typical of a lot of Belfast people in that regard, stick to talking about Celtic like the true Irishman that you are

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 10/09/2011 12:15:17    1031140

Agreed, excellent post Ulsterman.

PP, "these parents put their children through it for their own personal goals. This is completely wrong. Your argument that crossing a loyalist protest was less dangerous than crossing a mucky pitch is so laughable it doesn't warrant a rebuttal"

?????

What personal goals where those then? the right to have their children educated? the right of freedom of passage?

The parents cannot be blamed for the actions of thugs and bigots and no one should have to adopt the role of a second class citizen to suit the agenda of others.

caz (Tyrone) - Posts: 111 - 10/09/2011 12:50:13    1031157

pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3834

1031140 'Excellent post Ulsterman. Have you noticed how quiet pp and the appropriately named gammy have gone ?'

He posted it late on a Friday night when I was in the pub, give the man a chance to respond.

Given he posted at seven o clock it sounds like you had a great night fair play to you pp

I have condemned those Loyalist protesters time and time again so to claim I haven't merely weakens your already fragile argument. I'm moving to the secondary issue, that given this protest was taken place these parents put their children through it for their own personal goals. This is completely wrong. Your argument that crossing a loyalist protest was less dangerous than crossing a mucky pitch is so laughable it doesn't warrant a rebuttal, you're really scraping the barrel with that one

You continually ignore that prior to these "protests" taking place this was the route these children took to go to school. It was safe. That was the issue. Had these animals got their way next would a childrens school route have been attacked by poisonous bigots ? You feed a monster and it grows. If a thug bullied you in an effort to perpetually humiliate you would you meekly back down and skulk in the back way.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 10/09/2011 13:12:34    1031168

Loyalists like to continually joke about child abuse in the Roman Church, but its blatant hypocrisy on their behalf, this was a form of child abuse, have they no shame?

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 10/09/2011 13:27:06    1031175

'If a thug bullied you in an effort to perpetually humiliate you would you meekly back down and skulk in the back way.'

If I had a small child who would be in danger by my standing up to these bullies I most definitely would and I think all decent parents would as well. I hope you don't have kids is all I'll say

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 10/09/2011 13:40:40    1031186

liathroidboy
County: Mayo
Posts: 4386

1030927
Cavan_Slasher
County: Cavan
Posts: 8571

1030854 Liathroid uses the same "learned off by heart" cliches in nearly every post but his spelling and punctuation is getting worse and ruining them !!
Pity because they were enjoyable and they proved that his only purpose on these boards is to wind people up !!

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your like a schoolgirl with a crush at this stage- its starting to become a bit of an obsession that you are going to have to come to terms with, following me around here all the time and contributing absolutely nothing- story of your life i suppose


The story of your life is even sadder !! Like making up stories about your half helicopter, big business empire, trips to rugby, racing etc etc. Pure drivel and we know it but to put down some posters like you have done by calling them work-shy and lazy while they struggle through unemployment and mortgage arrears is really so classy and says even more about you !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 10/09/2011 13:43:12    1031189

Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 4151

1030917 The 'alternative' route that people talk about was a back gate through St. Gabriel's school, across a mucky pitch and down a steep embankment which was simply dangerous for some people. It was like going from A to B through the rest of the aphabet, the tradesman's entrance to remind people they are second class. PP and Gammy are either on the deliberate wind up, want to annoy and rile as many as possible or simply know nothing of the situation and area. It was all about keeping the Orange jackboot on the Fenians neck, to show who was the boss but it blew back in their faces. Loyalism imploded after that and the UDA and UVF have spent the last decade in drug dealing feuds. As for the parents who weren't goimg to back down, they took their cue from Archbishop Desmond Tutu who walked with them and their children and told them they were second class to no one. If pp and gammy are genuinely involved with the GAA or are from the Nationalist tradition they are the ONLY Gaels or Irishmen I have ever heard defend the rancid, venemous, hateful scumbags who terrorised those children. I suggest they go on to YouTube and try to watch some of the footage. Shame on you for using this as your plaything or entertainment because no sane person could ever provide excuses for this medieval fundamental bigotry; go away the GAA doesn't want or need people like you. There are other websites where you can swap stories with likeminded individuals.


ulsterman so it was clearly less dangerous for people to march head on into "the rancid, venomous, hateful scumbags" than "cross a mucky pitch and down a steep embankment". in relation to your comment about "keeping the Orange jackboot on the Fenians neck, to show who was the boss" I agree 100% with you however it could be argue also that the very dangerous stance adopted by the childrens parents was equally all about the fenians keeping the orange jackboots in their place as i said in a previous post it was all tic for tat sectarianism from two communities neither of whom were prepared to yield one inch to the other in spite of what the consequences may have been. i'd very much like to point out to you that at no stage have i defended the behaviour of the "rancid, venomous, hateful scumbags who terrorised those children" but instead i've have argued that I believe the parents were wrong to put their kids wellbeing in the grave danger .
it is obvious from many many of your posts that you have a deep deep hatred inside of you, you always come across as being a very bitter and evil person and you remind me so so much of the people you constantly complain about on here, you are in fact the very same but for some reason you cannot see that.

Gammy_Knee (USA) - Posts: 1482 - 10/09/2011 14:32:34    1031209

Greengrass
County: Louth
Posts: 1632

1031168 pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3834

1031140 'Excellent post Ulsterman. Have you noticed how quiet pp and the appropriately named gammy have gone ?'

He posted it late on a Friday night when I was in the pub, give the man a chance to respond.

Given he posted at seven o clock it sounds like you had a great night fair play to you pp

I have condemned those Loyalist protesters time and time again so to claim I haven't merely weakens your already fragile argument. I'm moving to the secondary issue, that given this protest was taken place these parents put their children through it for their own personal goals. This is completely wrong. Your argument that crossing a loyalist protest was less dangerous than crossing a mucky pitch is so laughable it doesn't warrant a rebuttal, you're really scraping the barrel with that one

You continually ignore that prior to these "protests" taking place this was the route these children took to go to school. It was safe. That was the issue. Had these animals got their way next would a childrens school route have been attacked by poisonous bigots ? You feed a monster and it grows. If a thug bullied you in an effort to perpetually humiliate you would you meekly back down and skulk in the back way.

greengrass you forget or perhaps choose to ignore that drumcree was a big issue around that time, tension between the catholic and protestant communities was extremely high and confrontations between the two could be very very dangerous. knowing this it was extremely poor judgement on behalf of the parents to force their will/bully their own innocent children into what could be described as a war zone. to me the parents actions were willfully negligent.

Gammy_Knee (USA) - Posts: 1482 - 10/09/2011 15:05:13    1031220

So there we are according to PP and Gammy Knee and others the Victim is responsible for the actions of the abuser. We all know that if girls wore more suitable clothing then men would not be the horrible brutes they are. Where have we heard these kind of arguments before and from what kind of people?? Given my thoughts on the kind of people who offer these arguments as defence it is probably best that I dont say what I really think of tjem.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 10/09/2011 15:14:34    1031223

There are LEOPARDS on both sides and we know what doesnt happen to their spots. As I shared on another thread this country and island baffles me. Personally Id never invite Paisley,Robinson,or Sammy Wilson to anything in my neck of the woods, Their vitriolic and sectarian rhetoric over the years are too well documented. You dont have to tolerate certain people just to be populist and suit the revisionists. I would feel the same about Adams and Mc Guinness cos of their double talk and my own perception of their deviousness. Caoimhín O THE TD I will invite to my next house party cos i do a world class impersonation of his accent and dialogue. Here is an excerpt from the text. "I am now a democratically ,unequivicolly, elected T.D for Cavan Monaghan having received a comprehensively visible and indeed tangible mandate from the people whom I now represent lucidly ,eloquently,and articulately.To this end I dropped the armalite and digested voraciously copious copies of the Oxford Dictionary. This has enabled me to a fuller and indeeed rich understanding of the "grave"issues submerging this green and pleasant land. Singularly and without contradiction or deviation I fully acknowledge after due and overdue consideration that these "graves" can at least be located.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 10/09/2011 15:49:44    1031238

That's not what I'm saying at all Derryman but feel free to put words in my mouth if you're unable to debate reasonably

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 10/09/2011 15:57:19    1031240

Trixy
Your insight on the topic of discussion is to be admired even if not relevant or coherent

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 10/09/2011 15:58:46    1031241

PP that is exactly what you have been saying and in truth you take on this matter is stomach churning. You attempt to lay scorn upon the parents who were forced to make an awful decision that no parent should ever be asked to make, is vile and unfounded. In your eyes (according to your argument) the bully must be allowed to prevail because if the victim would do as requested by the bully then no one would ever see the bully for what he is. You argument is contemptable and sickening.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 10/09/2011 16:33:58    1031255

Correct, a lot of it was playing to the cameras and putting their children through it just to appear victims.

. Still they got to show themselves as victims eh

I am of the view that these parents purposely put their children through unnecessary abuse in order to make a political point and try to score a propaganda victory in the eyes of the Worl

The above are all your own words PP no need for anyone to put words in your mouth. It is quite clear what your agenda is.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 10/09/2011 16:51:04    1031262