Seamus89
County: Kilkenny


There was not nearly as much crime back then, this sort of attack by people on their own communities would have been unthinkable. Since then, the welfare state has grown immeasurably, and yet we hear this 'It's all social exclusion, poverty, inequality, etc'. Why do you think so many young men in Tottenham are violent and lawless?

The above are unsubstantiated generalisations. He has written a book detailing riots in London going back two thousand years. He outlined in particular riots by apprentices. He said they were regular occurences . He outlined those which occured in 1780. 120 people were killed during these particular riots.He said what occured last week was nothing new.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6192 - 17/08/2011 11:08:11    1012983

Following on from Greengrass's point, an appeal for calm from The Economist of all places...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-looting-hits-britain-0

whereangelsplay (Cork) - Posts: 240 - 18/08/2011 13:44:48    1013902

For all the old and lonely people living in London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWomXklfv8

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 18/08/2011 14:27:09    1013958

whereangelsplay
County: Cork
Posts: 193

1013902 Following on from Greengrass's point, an appeal for calm from The Economist of all places...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-looting-hits-britain-0

Read it and found it to be a well written and researched article. The phrase "historically illiterate judgement" was made for Seamus.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6192 - 18/08/2011 17:57:12    1014163

The man I was refering to previously is called Clive Bloom. His book argues essentially the same point and is titled Violent London 2000 Years of Riots, Rebels and Revolts.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6192 - 18/08/2011 18:00:13    1014166

Cavan_Slasher
County: Cavan
Posts: 8509

1013958
For all the old and lonely people living in London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWomXklfv8
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Who else sang this? When I listened I was recalling another version by somebody else.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 19/08/2011 09:42:21    1014344

SeanieBoy,

It was written and sung by Ralph McTell but i have heard Sinead O'Connor and Christy Moore sing it before !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 19/08/2011 15:05:16    1014643

Sad to see the new low our once great neighbour has sunk to. Makes me glad, despite our current difficulties, that I'm from the Republic.

Why has pomeroy plunkett changed his name?? i presume pplocal is the same person?!

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 19/08/2011 16:45:23    1014743

artisan
County: Down
Posts: 805

MP's claiming non-existent expenses, starting wars for big business, phone tapping, paying off cops, politicians cosying up to the Murdochs. In a fountain of corruption and greed, it's inevitable it will make it's way down the social classes.

If its a fountain of corruption and greed that caused this in the UK then we better prepare for the mommy and daddy of all riots in Ireland.

Corrxxx (Kerry) - Posts: 584 - 20/08/2011 13:21:00    1015086

Manchester give North London a master class in smash and grab today 13 - 3 to the Northerners

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 28/08/2011 18:11:01    1020847