Brendan Maher must start the next day, he scored 0-7 in a club match to bring borris back from the brink in a club match, he should be at midfield with mcgrath. Heard training is pretty intense in tipp, all bodes well.

Mulman (Tipperary) - Posts: 562 - 08/08/2011 11:42:58    1006271

Bring it on tb, bring it on!

Revenge for '61 ;-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 08/08/2011 11:53:45    1006284

Revenge for '61 ;-)
hurlingdub , 08/08/2011 at 11:53

Ye would have been better off for Limerick to beat ye Hurlingdub to save ye the humiliation of next Sunday

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 08/08/2011 12:05:08    1006294

Brendan Maher must start the next day, he scored 0-7 in a club match to bring borris back from the brink in a club match, he should be at midfield with mcgrath. Heard training is pretty intense in tipp, all bodes well.
Mulman , 08/08/2011 at 11:42


no they wont start him theyl introduce him at half time cos it wouldnt be fair on Gearoid Ryan or O Keefe.

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 08/08/2011 12:07:28    1006299

Revenge for '61 ;-)
hurlingdub , 08/08/2011 at 11:53

tell me hurlind dub which one of the Tipp forwards are ye going to close down? we will have only one of yers to close down and hes one of our own!

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 08/08/2011 12:09:04    1006300

Oh wouldn't it be lovely for the Dubs to beat Tipp.

Now in all honesty I really want a crack at Tipp again, but just to shut Thurlesblues up, to see the Dubs win would be fabulous.

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 08/08/2011 12:09:43    1006302

Oh wouldn't it be lovely for the Dubs to beat Tipp.

Now in all honesty I really want a crack at Tipp again, but just to shut Thurlesblues up, to see the Dubs win would be fabulous.
Puddersthecat , 08/08/2011 at 12:09


yed love that pudderscat as its the only way ye would win the All Ireland
Tipp will give ye a bigger beating than we gave ye in 1964 in the final.

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 08/08/2011 12:12:50    1006310

tb, we were in Lars after the Limerick match and we have him hooked on Dutch Gold and vodka and red bull and fixed him up with a young one who smokes 60 Johnny Blues around him all day and goes to the shops in her pyjamas. He'll be in no fit state to cause us any problems :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 08/08/2011 13:29:58    1006446

Nobody would like to see this tipp team knocked out ;P they have unfinished business. Bad news for dubs, heard on a dublin forum, treacy is out, dublin luck isn't with them in recent weeks.

Mulman (Tipperary) - Posts: 562 - 08/08/2011 13:37:20    1006458

Were Darren Gibson and Andy Keogh at the match? I was drinking in Gills pub outside and the 2 lads went through the ticket control barrier at about 1.30. Can't see any reason why they'd have gone to the match nor any reason why they'd be going up that way either. And Dan the man was in there before the match. It's only when you are beside him you appreciate the size of him.

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 08/08/2011 14:46:03    1006558

pudders. firstly i'd like to say i did see the match and secondly as i've said before i man enough to admit i dont like Kilkenny.

But lets be honest. Waterford did clean ye out in the air in the first half. I never said Eoin Larkin played the whole game at full forward...i was making the point he wasnt effective there. Who had a bigger impact there him or Power?? and was he not a little more effective on the wing. Secondly, it wasnt Henrys greatest game but the fact at stages in the match he attracted a group of Waterford players to him did it not create space for others? Having said all that...he was easily KK's most effective forward was he not? Could you say Colin Fenn, Hogan (granted he got 2 goals), Rice, Power or Larkin contributed anywhere near as much as him?
Cha starting in All Ireland wont happen....I can put any amount of money on that. Paddy Hogan has a lot to learn to become a top class player imo.

JJ Delaney did not win the battle with Prendergast, just because he hadnt the ability to finish doesnt mean Delaney won it. Did he not score a point and set up a goal anyway! And Prendergast looked like Usain Bolt pulling away from the rest in the olypics when he got away from Delaney on that run.

On Brian Hogan being a loss last year is rubbish...ye all love Tennyson down there. And to say Mullane only got a point off him...were you watching the match? he got 1-1, 1-2 at most. he definitely got 1 early point and 2 at the end from centre forward and in 09 he conceeded 7 points off corbett and callinan during that game enough said!!!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 09/08/2011 21:36:37    1007774

Ok Kilkenny were that impressive in that game which in fairness wasn't a great game.... but the showed flashes of what their capable of and found another gear when they needed it to score a goal or two.... kilkenny are a long ways off what they are capable of and no doubt they'll shove it up a few knotches for they final be it facing dublin or tipp (I think it will be tipp). But I think they still have trouble in the ful back line they aren't a mobile full back line and if you can get low ball into a full forward line their there for the taking.... you just can't just bombard high ball into the kilkenny back line and even if they don't win it they close you down quickly which is what they did against waterford and waterford lacked the composure to use the position they one, one of the main culprets was eoin kelly lost count of how many stupid shots he took out by the side line.

Way to beat them is spread it wide and keep your forwards on the move isolate them a lot of which is playing them are their own game.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 10/08/2011 11:11:07    1007937

Definitely looked like they were only playing at 60%, not revealing their hand fully yet!

Mulman (Tipperary) - Posts: 562 - 10/08/2011 11:47:46    1007986

09/08/2011 21:36:37
tiobraid
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On Brian Hogan being a loss last year is rubbish...ye all love Tennyson down there. And to say Mullane only got a point off him...were you watching the match? he got 1-1, 1-2 at most. he definitely got 1 early point and 2 at the end from centre forward and in 09 he conceeded 7 points off corbett and callinan during that game enough said!!!

Brian Hogan would have started if fit last year. Brian Hogan was a huge loss.

And I was at the match in the corner where Mullane scored the goal. He had gone in on Murphy a while before that. He scored 1-2 whilst Murphy marked him. He had scored 1 point off Hogan before that. In the 2nd half he ws roaming in midfield as a spare man when he got the other 3 points.

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 10/08/2011 13:43:07    1008127

Brian Hogan would have started if fit last year. Brian Hogan was a huge loss.

And I was at the match in the corner where Mullane scored the goal. He had gone in on Murphy a while before that. He scored 1-2 whilst Murphy marked him. He had scored 1 point off Hogan before that. In the 2nd half he ws roaming in midfield as a spare man when he got the other 3 points.
Puddersthecat , 10/08/2011 at 13:43


shure hel be fit this year Pudderscat and wel see how a big a loss he was then now wont way
the way I see it ye have no full back and no centre forward

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2011 14:11:45    1008166

Well after the Waterford V Kilkenny match I really think Kilkenny were always beatable its just that teams that play against them give them too much praise with their dirty tactics but seriously the teams that lose against Kilkenny are beaten by themselves. Must say that Waterford did put in a great effort by Kilkenny getting 17 wides. Waterford must be good enough for them to get that many wides. So I am hopeful that there will be a future for hurling.

killisane (Cork) - Posts: 10 - 10/08/2011 17:55:30    1008543

"Mullane as expected cleaned hogan"

Parts of Sundays game were like Tennis with the ball just bouncing between the two half forward/back lines. It was a game where both half back lines were very much on top. Of the two half back lines, Kilkennys were better as a whole and Brian Hogan was very solid. I did not see where Brian Hogan got cleaned. John Mullane was outstanding but just because he had 11 on his shirt and Hogan had 6 and the fact that Mullane scored 1-6 implies that Hogan played poorly is very much a case of adding two and two and coming out with five. One would need to revise ones maths or in this case just watch the game again. Mullane roamed all over the place and got most of his scores when he was in the corner or towards the end when he was picking up lose ball.



"great credit to Semaus Prendergast who mopped the floor with jj delaney"

Seamus Prendergast started very well to be fair to him. However, as the game settled so did JJ as always. Kilkennys half back line was solid yesterday. None of the three were cleaned out and you won't if you hit the ball down on top.



"Amazingly Waterford cleaned KK out of it in the air in the first half all over the field"

Not the whole first half.As mentioned above Seamus Prendergast started well but soon faded. Waterfords half back line and Liam Lawlor at full back did quite well throughout to be fair. The statement above is an exaggeration, a gross exaggeration.




"Disgusted with KK continuing cheap shots, consistently chopping on players hands. They surely dont need to resort to that. "

Give over with these sort of comments. If KK players give cheap shots then they are experienced to know that they are going to get them back. Players know are become aware of players that dish it out and those players always receive their "justice" on the pitch. So nobody need worry about any lad from anywhere giving cheap shots and getting away with it.

"Rice has to partner Fennelly at midfield imo and playing Larkin at full forward backfired again. "

Agree that Rice should partner Fennelly in midfield. Agree that Eoin Larkin was not that impressive full forward. I think his best position is in the half forward line and he should stay there.

"Shefflin for me is what won it for them today, they are relying heavily on him."

Best team throughout being in honest. Waterford were never completely out of the game but never really looked like winning in the second half. Don't think any one player won the game. that said, Henry brings so many other players into the game, he takes so much attention and watching, his vision and intelligence are second to none. Whether he is the best player of all time is debateable, he is, by a mile, the player of his generation. If he is on the team, Kilkenny will most often win even if he is not the best.




"For me KK are a spent force"

I doubt that this true. Well six All-Irelands in a row does not suggest that they are. The hunger does not seem to be gone and they always bring in young lads to freshen things up. They always have talent coming true. They are the greatest team of all time. As the greatest team of all time, they have some of the greatest players of all time. In JJ, Henry and Tommy they have three of the best of all time. Now, while they have good young players coming true, do they have players of that calibre? It is very rare that you get three players of that ilk on the one team. KK have and hence have won bag loads of All-Irelands. When these lads go or get injuries or lose the hunger over the next few years, then, in my opinion I dont think KK will dominate the hurling landscape like they have been doing. Some evidence of this was shown in the league final earlier in the year, when, in their absence (JJ played maybe??) KK were soundly beaten (I know it is only the league but Cody does not like

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 10/08/2011 18:02:10    1008547

Well after the Waterford V Kilkenny match I really think Kilkenny were always beatable its just that teams that play against them give them too much praise with their dirty tactics but seriously the teams that lose against Kilkenny are beaten by themselves. Must say that Waterford did put in a great effort by Kilkenny getting 17 wides. Waterford must be good enough for them to get that many wides. So I am hopeful that there will be a future for hurling.
killisane , 10/08/2011 at 17:55


I thought that Tipp were the All Ireland champions not Kilkenny
question is are Tipp beatable? If there is ever a five in a row it will be this team
Im now glad as a Tipp man to be in this era to see greatness as I feel that this tipp team will be the greatest of all time!

I was too young to see the current recognised greatest bteam of all time which is the Tipp team of the 1960s.

Killisane Kilkenny are always beatable when they are up against the home!!

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2011 19:31:18    1008615

I doubt that this true. Well six All-Irelands in a row does not suggest that they are. The hunger does not seem to be gone and they always bring in young lads to freshen things up. They always have talent coming true. They are the greatest team of all time. As the greatest team of all time, they have some of the greatest players of all time. In JJ, Henry and Tommy they have three of the best of all time. Now, while they have good young players coming true, do they have players of that calibre? It is very rare that you get three players of that ilk on the one team. KK have and hence have won bag loads of All-Irelands. When these lads go or get injuries or lose the hunger over the next few years, then, in my opinion I dont think KK will dominate the hurling landscape like they have been doing. Some evidence of this was shown in the league final earlier in the year, when, in their absence (JJ played maybe??) KK were soundly beaten (I know it is only the league but Cody does not like
bennybunny , 10/08/2011 at 18:02


Bennybunny they havegot to play in 6 all irelands in a row but so far have only won 4 of these. Nobody remembers you for getting to finals unless you win them.

This present Kilkenny team would not come out in the second half if they were up against the greatest hurling team of all time , which was the tipp team of the 1960s. Anyone of that generation will educate you on the difference between that team and this Kilkenny team and there is no comparison.

This Tipp team may even be better than them and thats the frightening thing for the rest of the hurling counties for the next 4 or 5 years.

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2011 19:37:09    1008620

bennybunny , 10/08/2011 at 18:02

bennybunny this greatest Kilkenny backline of yours got cleaned out and humiliated by the tipp half forward line in last years all-ireland final!

now hells kitchen? well now thats a different story! They would have been my best three of all time and all on the one team!!

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2011 19:42:16    1008627