just like all the innocent people on this island murdered by terrorists it sends out a clear message that we must never bow to terrorists or their evil ways, its worked perfectly in this country and the terrorists largely gave up or rebranded but their support is confined to a few nutjob- mosts of whom seem to be on this board

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 25/07/2011 11:49:39    994192

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 145

993907
This has nothing in common with 7/7 or 9/11 and more like McVeigh in America.

If that was directed at me you've completely missed the point of my post.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 25/07/2011 12:10:55    994244

Liathroidboy\ogall\Ballboy
just like all the innocent people on this island murdered by terrorists it sends out a clear message that we must never bow to terrorists or their evil ways, its worked perfectly in this country and the terrorists largely gave up or rebranded but their support is confined to a few nutjob- mosts of whom seem to be on this board



yes, Bloody Sunday(s) in 1920 and 1972 spring to mind!! totally agree these evil ways should never be allowed to happen again

Meath_bhoy (Meath) - Posts: 590 - 25/07/2011 12:16:11    994265

Extremene right wing christian cause of massacre. It is about time that the christians were stamped out.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 25/07/2011 12:17:26    994269

Meath_bhoy
County: Meath
Posts: 458

994265 Liathroidboy\ogall\Ballboy
just like all the innocent people on this island murdered by terrorists it sends out a clear message that we must never bow to terrorists or their evil ways, its worked perfectly in this country and the terrorists largely gave up or rebranded but their support is confined to a few nutjob- mosts of whom seem to be on this board



yes, Bloody Sunday(s) in 1920 and 1972 spring to mind!! totally agree these evil ways should never be allowed to happen again

Dublin/Monaghan 1974.
Still being covered up by Irish/British Governments.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 25/07/2011 12:20:33    994284

Real Kerry fan,

We're doing our bit in the North trying to stamp each other out.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 25/07/2011 12:37:24    994332

This terrible tragedy has nothing to do with this Island and if Admin had any respect for their own forum they would not allow it to be dragged down as every other thread is dragged down by the same culprits. No doubt this will not be posted.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 25/07/2011 15:56:13    994773

Well there you go Thank you for posting it

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 25/07/2011 16:30:55    994854

Thank God the court appearance was held in camera and this murderer did not get the press attention he thought he would. This kind of person should never get their vile messages of hate printed on newspapers !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 25/07/2011 17:10:12    994942

I hesitate to mention this but...on TV3 News, they described the killer as a "Christian fundamentalist". Excuse me, but is there any evidence to suggest this? Did he belong to a church? Did he go to church regularly? Did he carry around a Bible from which he was always quoting passages? There doesn't seem to be any evidence of him being a Christian fundamentalist, other than him describing himself as a Christian on his Facebook page. So what, are all the 2 billion people who describe themselves as Christians "fundamentalist"?

As far as I can see, this is just an example of the secularist viewpoint; Christians, Muslims, they're all dangerous and the only ones you can trust is us secularists. Thoughts?

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 25/07/2011 18:13:24    995070

My thoughts are -- you are becoming a bore

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 25/07/2011 18:35:21    995117

"As far as I can see, this is just an example of the secularist viewpoint; Christians, Muslims, they're all dangerous and the only ones you can trust is us secularists. Thoughts?

Is that empathy for non-violent muslims I detect?

We've done it, people! We've made a breakthrough!

whereangelsplay (Cork) - Posts: 240 - 25/07/2011 21:41:36    995333

Whereangelsplay

We'll make a breakthrough when you address my point. Is there any evidence to suggest that this nutjob is a "fundamentalist Christian" which he was described as on TV3? I'd genuinely like to know where they got that from; I mean, was he a member of a particular church? Right now, all we've got is the use of the word 'Christian' on his Facebook page, which doesn't amount to much in my book. Can you shed any light on this?

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 25/07/2011 21:50:46    995351

He's not a fundamentalist. He described himself as only moderately religious. But he does seem to have an interest in Freemasonary and the Knights Templar. Both organisations that I don't know much about but would appear to have Christian leanings.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 25/07/2011 21:59:59    995367

*sigh*

Cancel the party, everyone.

Look, I don't have all the bloody answers. Ring up TV3 and ask. Maybe they thought "well, he claims to be Christian. And he's clearly a fundamentalist. So therefore...".

Seriously, all joking aside. You're 22. You're at university. It's summer. What's are you doing screening every news report for Lefty PC Bias. Go outside. Meet a nice girl. Get a hobby. You'll regret this wasted time when you're older. God knows I do...

whereangelsplay (Cork) - Posts: 240 - 25/07/2011 22:01:03    995369

My heart goes out to anybody who was affected by this horrible tragedy, especially the families of course. Its absolutely sickening to see that there are still so many evil b****rds in the world today and this is another stark reminder! It just goes to show how dangerous extremist views are, doesn't matter if they are far right or left, they are both just plain wrong.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 26/07/2011 11:05:04    995535

Someone has gone to the trouble of wading through Brevik's manifesto and come up the following summary: http://thecst.org.uk/blog/?p=2784

In short, he thinks he's one of the Knights Templar. Y'know, them guys off the Da Vinci Code.

Also: "While Breivik uses Christian, and particularly Crusader, iconography and language, this is in a cultural or civilisational way rather than religious. Descriptions of him as a "Christian fundamentalist" do not really capture this distinction. He describes his politics as "cultural conservatism" or "Crusader nationalism"; while the former is clearly too euphemistic to describe a violent revolutionary, the latter label feels appropriate."

whereangelsplay (Cork) - Posts: 240 - 26/07/2011 17:17:45    996085

Just another Neo-Nazi nut, he claimed himself he was helped and mentored by similar minded people in England.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 26/07/2011 17:42:45    996105

He claims he is against Nazism. He believes the Nazis should have used their military strength to drive the Muslims from the Holy Land. He also believes that the Holocaust led to the beginnings of multicuturism because Western Countries did not want to be seen to anti- minority.

His online video clearly shows that he regards his enemies as Marxism, Nazism, Islam and Multiculturism. Im not going to promote the video further by providing a link but its easily found. I found it slightly chilling.

jarhead (Westmeath) - Posts: 285 - 26/07/2011 18:00:37    996131

There are two polar opposites in White European Christians and Middle Eastern Fundamental Islam and I fear this is the start of new Holy Wars. These far right groups have grown so strong partly because the EU and fearful media buried their heads and didn't allow open debates on immigration and the refusal of many Muslims to integrate into society. The Dutch, Germans and French have suddenly realised that they have massive Muslim populations that want to practice and live under Sharia Law in their countries and these Western governments are literally crapping themselves what is happening in their own lands. The violent actions of NATO, the US, Britain and other Western countries in the Middle East has just poured petrol on to the fire. There are many young Muslims in Europe who have become radicalised and Europe is potentially facing decades of 'home grown' Islamic terror AND reactions like Norway from far right groups.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 26/07/2011 19:28:42    996205