hill16no1man
County: Dublin
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980886 Real Kerry Fan
County: All
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Respect for our Anthem is important. Look at Rugby and the respect they give it in Cardiff,London,Edinburgh and various other oversea venues. A credit to their country.GAA please note.

and doublehop says it s dubs watching english television wise up you fools culchies know more about any english sport then us


Hmmmmmm. Read it again.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 11/07/2011 15:23:45    980901

gigoer, 1798 was not just a Wexford affair. 1803 and 1916 (notable exception was the disaster in Galway) the culchies left the poor Dubs to be slaughtered.

Padraig_Dub (Dublin) - Posts: 100 - 11/07/2011 15:24:10    980903

Oh i am being sincere

b.mullins (Dublin) - Posts: 1413 - 11/07/2011 15:24:18    980904

Well I'd have to give Dublin fans more credit than that. Those like yourself who were all eagle-eyed enough to see a foul on Brogan a few weeks ago would surely have no problem seeing the ball going in unhindered, no?

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 11/07/2011 15:27:59    980914

Padraig_Dub
County: Dublin
Posts: 29

980903 gigoer, 1798 was not just a Wexford affair. 1803 and 1916 (notable exception was the disaster in Galway) the culchies left the poor Dubs to be slaughtered.

1978?

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 11/07/2011 15:30:10    980919

Ah we're all Irish at the end of the day

And lay off with the history lesson will ya? This is a GAA forum and here you're trying to create divides between counties over 200 year old history

Cop onto yourself

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 11/07/2011 15:30:11    980920

Real Kerry Fan, look at the post you quoted, I never said 1978, I said 1798.

My auld Wexford pal I'm only having a laugh trying to wind ya up. Don't be so sensitive.

Padraig_Dub (Dublin) - Posts: 100 - 11/07/2011 15:39:39    980934

ban it ban it ban it

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 11/07/2011 16:41:26    981100

hurlingdub
County: Dublin
Posts: 3316

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Dublin supporters are among the best singers of the anthem. Was looking at Donegal/Cavan and it was embarrassing silence.

Besides, maybe you might compare Donegal's record in 1916-21 to Dublin's? Actually don't bother. I think the Tans went to Bundoran for holidays ;-)

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To hurlingdub and your sidekick PadraigDub who in some way finds you funny and wonders how many Risings were in othere counties around the country...two points...

1) The 1916 Rising was conducted by a very small few and the vast majority of the population of Dublin spat at the 1916 leaders as they were taken away to prison to be executed!

2) Don't ask stupid questions about Donegal's record when it comes to defending this country of ours... How many Dubs could be bothered getting up out of their beds when the great chieftains of Tír Chonaill and Tír Eoghain had to march the whole length of Ireland in the snow and cold of winter 1601 to Kinsale to take on the invader! That's right ....NONE...!

A fine record ye have altogether......Don't make me laugh!

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 11/07/2011 17:11:01    981175

This debate kind of annoys me. That anthem was an absolute nonsense in the 70's 80's and 90's given what was going on up north. We were all down here saluting the flag and manning the gap of danger while nationalists up north were suffering at the hands of a sectarian state. I'm not suggesting we could have, or should have, done anything about the northern problems. I am saying that singing about our defence of Ireland and not sheltering despots, was blatently hypocritical whuilst we failed (perhaps with good reason) to defend the Irish from the despots that tormented them.

Today, we're expected to continue the same old flag saluting and empty promises of defending the nation, whilst that same nation is forced to pay for the debts of private industry. Anybody who thinks that the anthem hasn't lost all meaning, wants their head examined.

Culchie (Cork) - Posts: 799 - 11/07/2011 17:11:37    981180

Donegal suffered under English rule probably as much or more than any county. The absentee landlords, who controlled the people through their savage agents up there, were particularly cruel and oppressive. That's a long time ago now but it's not good to see gaels levelling these types of silly allegations against a people that had to endure what they did and were then uniquely cut off from their natural neighbours during the 70s and 80s plus being practically isolated from the rest of the county.

This is not a slight on the Dubs but more a clumsy defence of my Ulster neighbours (and not in any way a comparison to what our neighbours in the six counties had to experience)

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 11/07/2011 17:28:03    981216

they should be banned from the championship

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 11/07/2011 17:32:14    981234

The historical fact is that Dublin is a foreign city that just so happens to be on our island, a city that was first Viking, then Norman, then English. Since 1922, it has been Irish, officially Irish anyhow. But the British heritage of Dublin hasn't faded away. Trinity College is still in its essence a British institution, there are all sorts of British landmarks and monuments (Wellington's, for example), and right now the Dublin media are trying to foist the Anglophile, royalist David Norris on us.

So is anyone surprised that the Dublin players would disrespect our national anthem? If it was 'God Save the Queen' they'd stand for it in silence.

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 11/07/2011 17:53:39    981281

Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 1890

981281
The historical fact is that Dublin is a foreign city that just so happens to be on our island, a city that was first Viking, then Norman, then English. Since 1922, it has been Irish, officially Irish anyhow. But the British heritage of Dublin hasn't faded away. Trinity College is still in its essence a British institution, there are all sorts of British landmarks and monuments (Wellington's, for example), and right now the Dublin media are trying to foist the Anglophile, royalist David Norris on us.

So is anyone surprised that the Dublin players would disrespect our national anthem? If it was 'God Save the Queen' they'd stand for it in silence.

Dublin is in Ireland. Therefore it is Irish. If I was you I wouldn't be worried about 'historical facts' I'd just try and learn some geographical ones.

The Vikings founded Waterford and Limerick city also. Every part of the country has been influenced by the different cultures that have at different times inhabited the island. I though a scholar such as yourself would understand that.

The landmarks of Dublin city show the changes that the city has undergone. From the capital of a Viking Kingdom to a centre of Norman power, from the second city of the British empire to the capital of the Republic of Ireland. The same can be said of everywhere else in the country too.

Its pretty basic stuff, although you're from Kilkenny so you're probably just a foreign Norman anyway.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 11/07/2011 18:10:46    981318

This thread raises a good point - respect for our anthem is pathetic, unless you're at a rugby game. To suggest it is a Dublin issue is equally pathetic though, and honestly, blaming the Dubs for everything that people don't like with our organisation is a sad way to live a life.

Equally rubbish is a lot of peoples grasp of basic history. Embarrassing.

abhainn (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 11/07/2011 18:43:40    981373

I agree abhainn

in my experience some/many of the finest people I have met are from our Capital

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 11/07/2011 18:57:15    981386

1: What happened in Wexford in 1798? I know there was a rising in Antrim and Down that year and just wondered if it had something to do with that.

2: Anthems should be played at state occasions only

3: I bet there is no anthem at the old bonfire tonight.......must dash before i miss the fun.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/07/2011 19:06:19    981397

Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 1890

981281 The historical fact is that Dublin is a foreign city that just so happens to be on our island, a city that was first Viking, then Norman, then English. Since 1922, it has been Irish, officially Irish anyhow. But the British heritage of Dublin hasn't faded away. Trinity College is still in its essence a British institution, there are all sorts of British landmarks and monuments (Wellington's, for example), and right now the Dublin media are trying to foist the Anglophile, royalist David Norris on us.

And don't forget your own beloved Kilkenny Castle was built by Strongbow, Earl of Pembroke.....

bubba83 (Dublin) - Posts: 333 - 11/07/2011 19:11:31    981402

Really people as if dublin are to blame for it!! every team both club and county do it!! maybe its not rigth but that not to say we should single out dublin for it!! as if there wasnt more important to be talking about than little thing such as one player jumping around in the last few bar of the song!!

moran008 (Westmeath) - Posts: 22 - 11/07/2011 19:35:48    981436

What worrys me more is the amount of people who simply don't know our national anthem. Its quite embarrassing actually.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1718 - 11/07/2011 20:01:26    981466