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Down - aristocrats of Ulster football?!

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For many years now County Down have been called the aristocrats of Ulster football, what evidence is there to support this statement, ulster gaels might ask?
Cavan have won 39 titles,
Armagh 14
Tyrone 13
Monaghan 13
Down 12!

Cavan and Down have both won 5 all Ireland football titles, however Cavan have an impressive 39 Ulster titles, surely Cavan should be called the 'Aristocrats of Ulster', its time for Down followers to wake up! You were unbelievably lucky to get to an all-ireland final last year. Sure, you beat a poor Kerry team, whom had a few bad decisions against them. You beat Kildare, with the help of the referee! You beat Kerry in the 60's, big deal! Other Ulster teams have also beaten Kerry on the big stage, (Armagh 2012), (Tyrone, 2003, 2005, 2008). Apologies if any of you feel insulted by this, but without Martin Clarke there is not much hope for Down in the future!

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 30/05/2011 21:25:17    943969

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Is your wife/partner from Down gatekeeper, did he/she shout at you today and are you still miffed?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 30/05/2011 21:35:56    943987

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HE CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE!!

tyroneled (Tyrone) - Posts: 69 - 30/05/2011 21:38:49    943996

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gatekeeper who sucked the jam out of your dounut they play lovely football the way it should be played for as long as i can remember anyway i presume thats where the name came from nothing to do with sucess

booboo (Cork) - Posts: 1382 - 30/05/2011 21:40:28    943997

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In my lifetime, Down are the aristocrats of Ulster football. When I was born, 58 TODAY, Tyrone, Down, Derry, Donegal and fermanagh had not won Ulster. Not a title between them. Cavan were well ahead, and Antrim comfortably in 2nd place with 11. They still have 11, even Tyrone are ahead of Antrim now so things do change.

And for Down they changed more than most.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 30/05/2011 21:48:00    944015

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TheGateKeeper
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For many years now County Down have been called the aristocrats of Ulster football, what evidence is there to support this statement, ulster gaels might ask?
Cavan have won 39 titles,
Armagh 14
Tyrone 13
Monaghan 13
Down 12!

Cavan and Down have both won 5 all Ireland football titles, however Cavan have an impressive 39 Ulster titles, surely Cavan should be called the 'Aristocrats of Ulster', its time for Down followers to wake up! You were unbelievably lucky to get to an all-ireland final last year. Sure, you beat a poor Kerry team, whom had a few bad decisions against them. You beat Kildare, with the help of the referee! You beat Kerry in the 60's, big deal! Other Ulster teams have also beaten Kerry on the big stage, (Armagh 2012), (Tyrone, 2003, 2005, 2008). Apologies if any of you feel insulted by this, but without Martin Clarke there is not much hope for Down in the future!

Armagh winning the 2012 All Ireland a year before its played is some going! Cavan last won and All Ireland in the 50's and havn't even made a final since the in that space of time Down have won 5 and played in another final

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 30/05/2011 21:53:57    944032

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Happy birthday patrique !!! Older but any wiser ?

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 30/05/2011 21:56:02    944035

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i just seen the title and had to laugh...

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 30/05/2011 21:57:35    944041

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What a sad little man, so much bitterness and jealousy . . . Anyway, I wish Tyrone all the very best as they start their Ulster SFC campaign this weekend.

Burnsey (Down) - Posts: 561 - 31/05/2011 09:03:25    944068

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Also Happy birthday patrique!

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 31/05/2011 09:22:21    944081

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Whinge of the decade accolade goes to gatekeeper of Tyrone

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 31/05/2011 09:59:05    944099

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Happy birthday patrique

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 31/05/2011 10:00:43    944101

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Happy belated birthday comrade.

Seamus89 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 3848 - 31/05/2011 10:23:17    944125

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I would have thought that being successful bares little on what is meant by "aristocrats of ulster football". I would take this to mean they have a philosophy and style that they are unwilling to compromise on. This has to be commended but the way the game has evolved would seem naieve and detrimental to success. Open expansive football, in my opinion, unfortunately is dead and Downs historical style of play will probably yield little success unless they compromise and adapt.
Yes Down were lucky to get to an AI final last year but sometimes you need a little bit of luck and I certainly didn't begrudge them their final place.

Kenjg80 (Dublin) - Posts: 228 - 31/05/2011 10:42:29    944137

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How about that Down changed the way football was played in Ulster, were the first team to bring Sam across the border and win 3 all irelands in one decade which cavan did not do, also they were never defeated in an all ireland final until last year, beat Kerry teams with Mick O'Connell and Mick O'Dwyer, attracted the largest ever crowd to Croke Park, had players like Paddy Doherty ,James McCartan Snr and Sean O'Neill who is on the team of the millenium? Also i dont often hear Cavan people complain about not being called the aristocrats

cboyle92 (Down) - Posts: 184 - 31/05/2011 10:52:31    944144

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Down are the aristocrats of Ulster football in terms of playing style.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3027 - 31/05/2011 11:10:57    944169

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and there was the rest of ulster thinking that the gaa was only invented in 2002- ha ha

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 31/05/2011 12:22:56    944265

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Down blew it on Saturday. Makes it far too easy now for Tyrone to win Ulster, yet again.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 31/05/2011 12:24:53    944269

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Cavan are the aristocrats of Ulster football, 39 titles is an incredible haul, and we wont be knocked of our perch in any of our lifetimes.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 31/05/2011 12:31:39    944280

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hard to see cavan getting another one in the next 37 years, the way they are going about it.

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 31/05/2011 12:37:00    944286

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