liathroidboy
County: Mayo
Posts: 2727

913652 khan was winning 6-0 what part of that do people not get- mccloskey done absolutely nothing in that fight- ill put it like this folks if mkhan won the fight 12 rounds to nil people on here would be still claiming foul. he wasnt beating mccloskey when it was stopped he was hammering him. please dont insult my bocxing intelligence and tell me that it was tactical to go 6-0 behind? some people really havent a clue what they are talking about

It was obvious that the fight was going exactly as mccloskeys team wanted. They knew he was never going to win on points. Khan hadnt even marked mccloskey and he was starting to look the fitter. Strategically it was going exactly as the wanted. You probably never actually watched the fight. I'd say the part of the country mccloskey is from also blinds your judgement going on past posts.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 18/04/2011 12:30:25    913844

Those links dont work, any others?

miketyson (Limerick) - Posts: 2748 - 18/04/2011 12:58:29    913885

http://www.megavideo.com/?d=QGT7JMX0


Alot of biased views on this thread from people who wouldnt know alot about boxing i would say, ive been around boxing for 10 years and had no affiliation to either figher, this is how i called it..

Khan won every round easily and without expelling too much energy, He kept McClosky at bay by circling to the right as is the norm against southpaws. Pauls best asset is his right hook, he hardly threw it and didnt land it. Its a myth Khan went for an early knock out, he simply didnt, if it had came obviousally he would have taken it but he was prepared to go all 12 rounds. Paul didnt land a combination in the fight apart from 2 punches to the back of the head. Khan didnt land a great number of punches but did the better work especially in the 6th when Mc was clearly shaken. I tought Pauls defence was very good and he blocked lots of shots. Khans speed in defence was superb which must have been disheartening for paul not being able to land punches

The Stoppage - McCloskey seemed to accept it was going to be stopped, thats not good, in boxing you want a warrior, someone who will never give up no matter how badly they are hurt. He should have his hands up ready to get back fighting and im sure he would have been allowed to.


People who say Pauls could have won by KO in the later rounds - ya its always a possibility but you can only go on what actually happened and it didnt look likely, Remeber Audley harrison said the same thing after the david Haye fight, IMO Khan would probably have wone on points if it had continued.

miketyson (Limerick) - Posts: 2748 - 18/04/2011 13:51:37    913958

Khan was only half fit-looked pudgy,Mc Closkey would've ended up knocking him out,he was dodging everything Khan threw at him and just waiting to lannd a big one and knock him out!

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 18/04/2011 14:09:36    913978

I watched the fight on Polsat Sport, a Polak TV station. Khan was in control throughout BUT he was beginning to look very tired. The fact that the Derry man entered the arena with a tricolour probably offended Ballickboy from the shankill.
All the Poles at the pub i was in i a place called Bielsko Biala were going mad for McCloskey, it was kind of weird, I was worried incase they thought we could all box, started on me to tested themselves, I wasnt in the mood for knocking four of five of them spark out with an Ardboe uppercut.

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 18/04/2011 14:13:03    913985

Not being a big boxing fan myself I did watch it (thanks for the link PP), and have to agree with Brolly, McCloskey looked comfortable and unfased and even thogh Khan had won 6 rounds, he was the one doing all the running. It had been set up perfectly for McCloskey to step it up in the later rounds, he was just unfortunate that he ended up with a cut.

Khan, he ain't all that and a bag of potatoe chips!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 18/04/2011 14:26:55    914015

In Khan's last fight he tired considerably in the later stages of the fight and was nearly put down a few times by his opponent in the 11th round. Khan staggered all over the ring and was lucky to get the bell. McCloskey and Breen had planned for Khan to punch himself out in the first 7/8 rounds then move in and try to stop him. The plan was working until McCloskey was stopped on a cut Oscar De La Hoya would have laughed at when he fought; De La Hoya cut like a piece of meat at times but went on to win world title fights and he KNEW by the way he acted and sheepish look in his eyes that the fight should never have been stopped on that cut. Now no one knows what would have happened if Paul had been allowed to go on, the cut might have got worse and he may have been stopped on it but we will never know now. McCloskey deserves another shot and will probably get it if Khan unifies the division over the nest year but I don't think he will. I believe Khan will lose to the next really decent central American fighter he meets; Khan is chinny and his people know it.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 18/04/2011 20:56:13    914490

ulsterman.
i hope mcloskey gets a rematch and knocks him it seemed a bit unfair to the derry fighter to be honest .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 18/04/2011 21:04:36    914502

ta,

I am a keen boxing fan and can't recall a fight ever being stopped without the fighter's corner and cut man first looking at it. McCloskey's people didn't even get a chance to treat it before the doctor and referee called a halt. Furthermore the scoring was ridiculous, there were THREE English judges, and most of Khan's punches were catching Paul's arms. McCloskey was landing the better digs that should have swung at least 2 rounds his way. I don't think a rematch will happen, Khan won't be a world champion too long at this weight. He struggles to make the weight at light welter and the efforts to shed the pounds look like they make him weary in the latter stages of fights.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9819 - 18/04/2011 21:15:33    914520

but has mcloskey not asked for a rematch , not big on the boxing in the sense of knowing the in and outs of it like yourself ulsterman but would a rematch not be a fair solution so that the oakleafer can knock his head off i mean as you say the corner of mcloskey did not even have a chance to look at their fighter . big brown envelopes me thinks .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 18/04/2011 21:35:06    914542

You're welcome Brend. Firstly the scoring wasn't ridiculous, he mightn't have hurt McCloskey but Khan comfortably won every round. Secondly to say he's chinny is a tired old cliché. It mightn't be made of granite but anyone who watched Khan - Maidana can't say that about Khan, Maidana landed blows that would have felled most boxers but Khan hung on. Given that Khan has proved he doesn't have a glass chin and given that McCloskey is not a knock out specialist I think Khan would have won on points, it's just a shame we'll never find out. For what it's worth Khan might be talking about unifying the division but I think Bradley would beat him fairly comfortably. The talk about Manny better just be that for Khan's sake, Pacquiao would annihilate him

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 18/04/2011 21:44:22    914561

it was sensibly stopped refs way up all the options if it were a close fight he may have let it go on .Safety has to be paramount. mc closkey is a very good fighter bUt i think hes at his level in europe

booboo (Cork) - Posts: 1382 - 19/04/2011 18:29:12    915148

Boo what are you talking about?Safety?The only mark on McCloskeys face was the one from the clash of heads, Khan threw far too many punches with the majority of them missing or hitting gloves and hands. Safety was not an issue, this was a stitch up.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 20/04/2011 08:54:24    915375

CheFinny
County: UK
Posts: 1147

913985 I watched the fight on Polsat Sport, a Polak TV station. Khan was in control throughout BUT he was beginning to look very tired. The fact that the Derry man entered the arena with a tricolour probably offended Ballickboy from the shankill.
All the Poles at the pub i was in i a place called Bielsko Biala were going mad for McCloskey, it was kind of weird, I was worried incase they thought we could all box, started on me to tested themselves, I wasnt in the mood for knocking four of five of them spark out with an Ardboe uppercut

Never heard of it!! Do you not have to stand in front of someone to uppercut?? ;).

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 21/04/2011 13:36:16    916287

Amir Khan wins by Technical Decision; Judges Score - 60-54

Now come on, Whos saying McCloskey could'nt win! He was just 6 points behind Kahn, In my opinion McCloskey could of caught up very easily and could of won it, If you watch McCloskey's previous fights you see that he picks it up in the final rounds. He got the raw deal in my eyes

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 21/04/2011 14:53:34    916361

Orlaith,

In how many of those fights was McCloskey 6 rounds behind?... NONE!!!.. Dont put yourself through the what ifs, he lost, he did well but it was clearly a step too far from him, he was totally outclassed, i know its hard to hear but its true

miketyson (Limerick) - Posts: 2748 - 21/04/2011 14:59:01    916365