bogstandard:

Just put down in black and white what arguement you are trying to make because at this stage I don't think you even know yourself.... I'm off to enjoy the sun I look forward to your reply as it will no doubt give me a good laugh to start me day tomorrow.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 21/04/2011 15:07:17    916374

Yeah, definitely, I'm surprised the hypocrisy isn't pointed out more, it should be. Its very hard to listen to someone who reportedly earns 5 times the industrial wage lecture on payments to managers and a volunteer amateur ethos.
21/04/2011 15:04:52


http://www.independent.ie/national-news/fas-officials--wages-to-cost-gaa-836447000-in-three-years-1599619.html

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 21/04/2011 15:13:48    916378

I would be surprised that anybody who has seen Pauide Butler in action (and who genuine believes in the ethos of the GAA) would argue about the money. The man is a legend who has done more to spread hurling than all of the Croke Park heads put together

onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts: 800 - 21/04/2011 15:43:34    916397

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 7850

Good grief, its ghastly, each part of that story reflects the worst aspects of Irish life in the last 10 years. So we pay our hard earned cash to get into games, to be entertained by amazing athletes who put in an effort far beyond what should be expected of an amateur. But the guys who provide the entertainment don't get a cut, and the bureaucracy (who are becoming more of a hindrance than a help) make off with hundreds of thousands? I'm not promoting any kind of professional status for the players, but how is a situation like that allowed to exist? And these are the people calling payments to managers a cancer? That jive don't drive.

Its a funny thing, if you trawl the internet, you find so many instances of hurling clubs being established in the U.S. by Americans/non-Irish, and it seems to have real potential there. I mean, there are videos for Milwaukee Hurling Club having a youth hurling clinic, and its amazing, the level of interest and organisation is impressive. Add in similar stories from Indianapolis, Portland, St. Louis, New Hampshire, and even colleges like Stanford and Berkeley, and you start to wonder why this doesn't get more play over here, you'd think the GAA would be keen to play this up. I'm starting to think its because the more that "outsiders" become involved in the sports, the more likely they are to object to the current setup we have in the GAA when it comes to who gets paid against who puts in the actual effort.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 21/04/2011 16:13:49    916425

I said before in another thread that hurling would have terrific potential to become a world game whereas Gaelic football does not as it's too easily comparable to soccer, rugby & Aussie Rules. Hurling is faster, therefore, frequently more exciting & almost totally unique in comparison to other international sports.

We had several French & Spanish students staying in our house over the years & they all got introduced to hurling & football. All preferred the hurling & really loved it. Always ended up having to send them home with hurls & sliothars. And yet we're incapable of promoting it properly to our own people....

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 21/04/2011 17:22:33    916474

21/04/2011 14:13:42
Nick
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patrique
County: Antrim
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Didn't they move Antrim to Leinster a couple of years ago.



At SENIOR level yes, but it is too late to learn proper hurling aged 25.

In the late 1970s early 1980s Antrim were in Leinster at minor level and are the ONLY county to have beaten Kilkenny at Nowlan Park in a minor championship game. Alas that experiment died.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 21/04/2011 21:57:30    916649

Go Eddie!!!

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/former-kilkenny-captain-savages-cooney-over-gaas-campaign-to-stop-manager-payment-2627468.html

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 22/04/2011 11:10:45    916703

merely asking the questions of you hag ,what year did the dublin hurling development project start

bogstandard (Wexford) - Posts: 799 - 24/04/2011 19:38:12    917759

Havent had a chance to read everything on this thread, so i might be repeating some stuff already mentioned by other posters, so apologies in advance. The 2 major differences for me between the weaker and stronger counties in hurling are tradition and competition at the highest level right through a players career. You need both to progress. Look at Antrim, they have 4 divisions in their county league and have quite a few areas where hurling is the number one sport. They have more senior clubs than Offaly (i think) but havent had the same success because of their geographical disadvantage. I play hurling in one of the most difficult areas to promote in the world never mind Ireland-Derry City. We are totally up against it because Soccer followed by Gaelic football are so strong. Kilkenny have a tradition of hurling handed down from Grandfather to son to grandson. Here going back to the 1920s we have the same with soccer and although the children themselves migth prefer hurling at Under 8/10 the all consuming soccer culture eventually wins out.

christy sting (Derry) - Posts: 262 - 24/04/2011 20:35:29    917805