'I was just wondering what are the fundamental differences between the weaker counties and stronger counties? '

Most counties don't care about Hurling, it's as simple as that. In 14 years of School we played Hurling about three times, and we all thought that was three times too many. There's no appetite for it, most young Gaels want to play Gaelic football and nothing else. The smaller counties who can't compete in the All-Ireland football Championship tend to turn to Hurling as a second choice
PomeroyPlunkett , 18/04/2011 at 13:13


I wonder why, seeing as hurling is a much better game to watch and play than "throw the ball" previously known as Gaelic football. Also hurling is a much more skillful game than its slower counterpart and only a few counties possess the level of skill necessary to play it at the highest level. I mean look at Tipperary Pomeroy we have won more football Irelands than Tyrone and yet ye are supposed to be a football county. We then decided to concentrate on the more skillful game of hurling.

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 18/04/2011 13:34:29    913926

One of the main differences is the utter contempt RTE have towards the lower leagues, last night their failure to have any footage of the Divisional finals, inaccurate reporting, innaccurate league tables, no wonder if the national broadcaster couldn't care less it filter down through the public's subconscience,
it doesn't matter

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1688 - 18/04/2011 14:11:16    913982

hey Pomeroy switch it around! whats the difference between strong and weak counties in Gaelic football? You tell me that . Tyrone would be considered a weak county in my opioion with 3 All Ireland titles compared to Dublin 22 and the Kingdom 36. Why are ye so far behind them Pomeroy ye are even one behind Tipp in football maybe ye should try out the hurling for a change!!

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 18/04/2011 14:14:00    913987

Jayusss the blose is finally serving a purpose on this site..... go on wind Pomeroy up good!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 18/04/2011 14:27:31    914016

That old chestnut, Hurling is much more skillful blah blah blah. Let's face it, it isn't. You give all the young Gaels in a county a Hurl and trained them throughout their childhood you're going to get 30 who could play Hurling to a high standard. Truth is youngsters don't want to play it and would rather play the one true sport of the GAA. That's why Gaelic football is much more popular. That's why only a handful of counties play Hurling to any sort of standard. That's why 20 Liam McCarthy's is equivalent to one Sam Maguire. Face facts and quit burying your head in the sand

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 18/04/2011 14:28:38    914020

Whatever became of the hurling development officers supposedly appointed throughout the country ? Has this funding been withdrawn or cutback by the sports council and the GAA ? Are these lads only part-time now ? When we see most counties spend over half a million on preparing their senior county teams - with some its over a 1M - you'd have to ask why can't that sort of money cannot be made available to good quality juvenile coaching particularly in the so-called weaker counties.

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1066 - 18/04/2011 14:31:35    914025

easier to win hurling all irelands only few teams in it sure , hurling is for boys who are too soft for football .
both very skillful games in their own right
hurling much easier now than 20 years ago bigger hurls ,lighter balls the basic skills are gone , ground hurling a thing of the past

bogstandard (Wexford) - Posts: 799 - 18/04/2011 14:45:17    914042

That old chestnut, Hurling is much more skillful blah blah blah. Let's face it, it isn't. You give all the young Gaels in a county a Hurl and trained them throughout their childhood you're going to get 30 who could play Hurling to a high standard. Truth is youngsters don't want to play it and would rather play the one true sport of the GAA. That's why Gaelic football is much more popular. That's why only a handful of counties play Hurling to any sort of standard. That's why 20 Liam McCarthy's is equivalent to one Sam Maguire. Face facts and quit burying your head in the sand
PomeroyPlunkett , 18/04/2011 at 14:28

I dont consider pulling and dragging and jaw punching to be much of a skill.
Also in the old days you had to kick a score and fist the ball rather than throwing the ball now
you still cant answer why Tipp have more football All Irelands than Tyrone and we won our last one about 80 years ago

Gaa had to keep changing the football rules as the game was a disaster compared to hurling.

Football is a cross between tip rugby and Australian football nothing Gaelic about it anymore
sad! but thats the fact

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 18/04/2011 15:17:34    914083

That old chestnut, Hurling is much more skillful blah blah blah. Let's face it, it isn't. You give all the young Gaels in a county a Hurl and trained them throughout their childhood you're going to get 30 who could play Hurling to a high standard. Truth is youngsters don't want to play it and would rather play the one true sport of the GAA. That's why Gaelic football is much more popular. That's why only a handful of counties play Hurling to any sort of standard. That's why 20 Liam McCarthy's is equivalent to one Sam Maguire. Face facts and quit burying your head in the sand
PomeroyPlunkett , 18/04/2011 at 14:


The reason you only played a few hurling matches Pomeroy is beacause you didnt have the necessary skills for it.

Tipp arent brilliant at football yet they have won more football All Irelands than Tyrone. We have 26 All Irelands in the beautiful game of hurling which is the fastest field game in the world. Ye dont seem to be able to win much at the football either

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 18/04/2011 15:29:16    914103

easier to win hurling all irelands only few teams in it sure , hurling is for boys who are too soft for football .
both very skillful games in their own right
hurling much easier now than 20 years ago bigger hurls ,lighter balls the basic skills are gone , ground hurling a thing of the past
bogstandard , 18/04/2011 at 14:45


How come only Tipp Kilkenny and Cork win them so ?
what about the other 9 or 10 counties who compete. And in relation to soft have you ever got a belt of a hurley or a little punch in football?

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 18/04/2011 15:32:02    914107

I'm well aware Tipp have won more, of course it was a lot easier to win back then but good luck to them. I don't particularly care what happened 100 years ago, I've seen my county lift the big one three times, you never have and I feel for you that you've never seen that and you never will. Please explain why Gaelic football is so much more popular if it really is as bad as you make out?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 18/04/2011 15:35:53    914117

I'm well aware Tipp have won more, of course it was a lot easier to win back then but good luck to them. I don't particularly care what happened 100 years ago, I've seen my county lift the big one three times, you never have and I feel for you that you've never seen that and you never will. Please explain why Gaelic football is so much more popular if it really is as bad as you make out?

Dont talk nonsense man Ive seen Tipp lift 5 Liam McCarthys and I will see them lift many more.

and to answer your question its not very popular down our way or Kilkennys way either.

Tell me how was it easier win football titles back then? Shure the game is all throw the ball now no skill needed for that Pomeroy and by the way how come Kerry have 36 and ye can only manage 3
Id say its the only 3 youl ever see hope you enjoyed the moment!!

sit back and watch the speed of hurling Pomeroy and try not to blink as a lot could happen during that moment unlike the slow pace of football.

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 18/04/2011 17:36:12    914258

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I wonder why, seeing as hurling is a much better game to watch and play than "throw the ball" previously known as Gaelic football.

Are you speaking Ex Cathedra here or are any of us, or the world in general entitled to make up their own mind on the subject.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 18/04/2011 17:54:18    914283

This is brilliant!!!

The unreasonable thurles blue and the unreasonable Pomeroy going at it!!!

Sick em blue!!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 18/04/2011 17:57:24    914289

This is brilliant!!!

The unreasonable thurles blue and the unreasonable Pomeroy going at it!!!

Sick em blue!!!
statement of fact hag!! Tipp have more football All Irelands than Tyrone and we are a weak county in Football Pomeroy. Tell me where does that leave Tyrone? A weak or a strong county at football and whats the difference between ye and the stronger counties ?

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 19/04/2011 15:59:22    915011

How come only Tipp Kilkenny and Cork win them so ?
what about the other 9 or 10 counties who compete. And in relation to soft have you ever got a belt of a hurley or a little punch in football?

easy to answer the first question because it is such a poor game only ten teams in it and only a few of them any good at it ,its so boring every year .
got planty of belts of hurleys, broke plenty of fingers and an ankle , punch in football no cant say i have ever been punched in football, was hit off the ball in a hurling match once by a scamp from a county i wont mention ,as i dont want to start another debate.

bogstandard (Wexford) - Posts: 799 - 19/04/2011 18:41:02    915157

The difference between the strong and the weaker counties is that in the main hurling counties,young hurlers train a lot, are coached in the basic skills early in their childhood and want to get better at the game, have few distractions and want to play for their county. They also have a good games programme and this gets them to a high standard. Another basic reason is of course is that the whole community is involved in the overall development of the game and football plays second fiddle.

To read some... from Tyrone... lauding football as the only GAA game is laughable but it represents the problem with promoting hurling as a countrywide sport. To many people in football counties have little appreciation for hurling and are not and will not put in the time or effort to promote hurling. In fact hurling people in many of these counties will testify to the fact that football people will refuse to develop hurlers as they feel that it will impact negatively on football. Sad... but too true.

I believe that Dublin hurling today is a fantastic example of what can and has been done by a few hard nosed enthusiasts who have put the ork in, have got support at the top level in leinster and have now a team to be proud of. A few of the other counties in all the provinces... including Tyrone... could also benefit from the path that they have successfully travelled.

So the reasons for differences between hurling in the top and weaker counties often has a lot ot do with the promotion of football only!

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1879 - 19/04/2011 18:46:08    915166

bogstandard for a sport thats SO boring the final was the most watched tv programme in the country last year { behind the toy show of course} but ahead of even the football so when everyone around you is doing things differently perhaps its you who just doesnt like the game

booboo (Cork) - Posts: 1382 - 19/04/2011 18:51:38    915170

carlowman:

"I believe that Dublin hurling today is a fantastic example of what can and has been done by a few hard nosed enthusiasts who have put the ork in, have got support at the top level in leinster and have now a team to be proud of."

The hurlers came up with the same barriers that many counties have.... it was actually brought up at county board meetings that investing in hurling would negitavely impact the footballers which really it hasn't and there's no reason why it should in dublin. Luckily the dublin county board stuck to their guns and pushed through with their support of hurling and are not reeping the benefits after 10 years or so. The havn't over come all obsticles yet as the walk over Fingal gave in the league points the still a few issues there but outside that they are to be applauded in what they have done.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 19/04/2011 18:59:37    915180

to hear a carlow man talking about gaa is even more laughable

tubbs (USA) - Posts: 126 - 19/04/2011 19:00:30    915181