Brend,

What qualifications have you to make a statement like that?

miketyson (Limerick) - Posts: 2748 - 05/04/2011 16:13:32    904177

commercial brains are seriously lacking on this thread- a gaa channel would effectively eradicate all tv money, do you think guinnes, ulster bank etc. who sponsor the competition would pay the same sponsorship money for advertisment on non prime tv stations- folks you are seriously haveing a laugh here on this one- immediately the value of the gaa would be halved on such a move- but like 99% of irish people as the current economic situation suggests, i wouldnt expect ye to get it. a gaa channel showing all gaa related matters would be the best idea to completely ruin an organisation within a year its frightening that not even one person is intelligent enoufgh to see this no brainer of an idea?

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 05/04/2011 16:24:40    904191

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RTE treatment of GAA borders on contempt for our national games.

Where do people come up with this tripe!? Its absolute nonsense.
Most of the summer theres 3 matches shown every weekend.
You can listen to rte1 every sunday and get live updates on league matches all around the country.

Id like you to cite some specific examples of "contempt" rather than jump on the whinger bandwagon.

As ballboy said, theres a massive amount of revenue that will be lost if everything was to switch to a gaa channel. How long would it take for the gaa channel to build up the same viewer figures and ad revenue? Liklihood is that the channel would end up being subscription. Thats the beginning of the end.

The only way this would be a runner would be if it was a very basic satellite channel that mostly showed repeats and maybe the odd mickey mouse game that they couldnt convince even tg4 to air. Setanta pretty much seems to be filling this niche already so presumably theyre getting a few quid from the setanta boys, that would be lost.

My prediction is that they will set up a "channel" on their website that will basically be little more than a glorfied version of the rte iplayer.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 05/04/2011 16:39:01    904216

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904177 Brend,

What qualifications have you to make a statement like that?
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brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 05/04/2011 17:00:41    904265

Horse thank god for that post- i was starting to believe that the IQ levels of the avergae gaa punter were less than was assumed. i mean is it any wonder the gaa is in the dark ages when you have people spouting off that a gaa channel is a good idea- i really fear for these people in the real world as i mean to have such little amounts of sense would suggest that these people have not amounted to much in life... frightening to say the least!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 06/04/2011 10:43:08    904818

The GAA could still make big money from opening their own station

Instead of RTE and TV3 making all the money on Sponsorship and comemrcial sales around the live games - The GAA would...

They could still sell rights to RTE & TV3 on an AS-LIVE rights package

They could start GAA TV USA/CANADA - GAA TV UK - GAA TV AUSTRALIA - GAA TV News - broadcasting live feeds from Ireland - These could be subscriber channels but could easily make more reveneue by selling commerinal time/sponsorship in those countries

This is only the tip of the iceberg - Dont get me started - There are far more means of generating revenue for our games than just an inward looking TV rights policy.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 06/04/2011 10:55:36    904841

Well said Jimbo, the GAA are too insular to realise the potential, they need some private sector know how in the marketing side of things.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 06/04/2011 11:07:56    904863

Horse wrote:

As ballboy said, theres a massive amount of revenue that will be lost if everything was to switch to a gaa channel. How long would it take for the gaa channel to build up the same viewer figures and ad revenue? Liklihood is that the channel would end up being subscription. Thats the beginning of the end.

I think this is very sensible. Already we have TV3, TG4, RTE & Setanta showing games. Do the GAA just end all association with them and launch their own channel?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6627 - 06/04/2011 12:19:56    904993

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904993 Horse wrote:

As ballboy said, theres a massive amount of revenue that will be lost if everything was to switch to a gaa channel. How long would it take for the gaa channel to build up the same viewer figures and ad revenue? Liklihood is that the channel would end up being subscription. Thats the beginning of the end.

I think this is very sensible. Already we have TV3, TG4, RTE & Setanta showing games. Do the GAA just end all association with them and launch their own channel?
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No but they take the live games off them...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 06/04/2011 12:23:33    905002

No but they take the live games off them...

And then have to pay out a huge startup fee to broadcast games live all over the world where Setanta are showing the games now.

I think the idea of a channel for GAA is worth discussing, but not something that could be set up right now and the rug pulled from under the other stations right away.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6627 - 06/04/2011 13:48:54    905125

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905125 No but they take the live games off them...

And then have to pay out a huge startup fee to broadcast games live all over the world where Setanta are showing the games now.

I think the idea of a channel for GAA is worth discussing, but not something that could be set up right now and the rug pulled from under the other stations right away.
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Oh no of course not... I'd agree with yuo there - there's honestly months upon months of planning required and as it is... RTE, TV3 have contracts signed - but the revneue is there to make this a success IMO

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 06/04/2011 14:19:30    905157

Oh dear so I'm being taken to task by the ballboy/horse duo, can't help but wonder if they are not one and the same. Lets deal with the issues/facts and try not to use emotive language like tripe/whinger. I am not clear why you would like me to cite some examples of RTE contempt when they are already listed in the first post i.e. On one Sunday the sports reporter said we have no time for the GAA scores now you can check them on our web site. Or unlike other codes they are not even bothered to read out the national league scores on Sunday Night. One could list many many more like RTE sports reporters not knowing the results of high profile championship matches long after they are over. Or the fact that there are 16 league matches involving 32 county teamsevery week with coverage limited to a one hour program on Sunday i.e. less than 2 min per team. RTE devoted more time last week to 3rd rate rugby tournament than to all GAA activities. I know many complain about the negative coverage in the Indo as well but that is their right they are a privately funded business and we can choose not to buy the paper. RTE is funded by all taxpayers and should not be high jacked by any group as a private PR company. Thank god for Hoganstand this is the only place where followers of our most popular sports can voice their concerns, where would we be without it?
I have no view on GAA TV but if a viable alternative to RTE can be found well the sooner the better and I can see from many of the other posters I am not alone..

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 06/04/2011 17:34:15    905355

mod- the media give the people what they want- they want rugby and as much of it as they can get- if they wanted gaa, purely on commercial decision based on viewing numbers and associated advertising revenue, they would be all over gaa. to say contempt is rubbish- these organisations are driven by the bottom line as in what genarates mone and that is why they opt for rugby as that is where the viewing numbers are- its that simple there are no agendas or stupid nonsense like that this is purely commericial. you point are those of a gaa fan with an inferiority complex and nothing more. if 1000 people show up to a league game in gaa- that kinda sets the tone for the popularity of that game- the indo, the times, rte or anyone else isnt going to run a 2 mins on the news or a page spead on the game- why? because the population and paying customers couldnt care less. your problem is that you cant understand why gaa isnt popular- its not the medias job to make leitrim v longford into something its not. check out the rte viewing numbers for the 3rd rate rugby competition and look at the sell out crowd of 26000, the opposite fixture in the aviva attracted over 50000 - so bash it all you wantg that is people voting with their feet and their pockets- the media is not putting them bums on seats are they? i state it again the media as a comercial entity give the people what they want- they want rugby!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 07/04/2011 11:52:33    905875

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905875 mod- the media give the people what they want- they want rugby and as much of it as they can get- if they wanted gaa, purely on commercial decision based on viewing numbers and associated advertising revenue, they would be all over gaa. to say contempt is rubbish- these organisations are driven by the bottom line as in what genarates mone and that is why they opt for rugby as that is where the viewing numbers are- its that simple there are no agendas or stupid nonsense like that this is purely commericial. you point are those of a gaa fan with an inferiority complex and nothing more. if 1000 people show up to a league game in gaa- that kinda sets the tone for the popularity of that game- the indo, the times, rte or anyone else isnt going to run a 2 mins on the news or a page spead on the game- why? because the population and paying customers couldnt care less. your problem is that you cant understand why gaa isnt popular- its not the medias job to make leitrim v longford into something its not. check out the rte viewing numbers for the 3rd rate rugby competition and look at the sell out crowd of 26000, the opposite fixture in the aviva attracted over 50000 - so bash it all you wantg that is people voting with their feet and their pockets- the media is not putting them bums on seats are they? i state it again the media as a comercial entity give the people what they want- they want rugby!
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brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 07/04/2011 13:09:41    905975