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I wasn't interested in Maths but was forced to learn it. Like everyone else I did 7 subjects for the Leaving Cert and was interested in 2 of them.

MesAmis I would still hazard a guess that Mathematics is of far more benefit to students than Irish once they enter out into the big bad world, the amount of people that actually use Irish in their working live is miniscule and no amount of force feeding it down people's throats is ever going to change that? MesAmis makes an interesting point about studying seven subjects for the Leaving Cert and only being interested in two of them, for I would actually revise the entire Leaving Certificate and go down the UK route of A-Levels. With A-Levels you pick your strongest subjects, or subjects that you will require for your University course, so you only then study those three or four subjects for two years. This then means that you are only studying your favourite/strongest subjects, and you also study them at a level which is greater than our Honours Level in the Leaving Certificate. I'm sure our Northern brethren can enlighten us more, have any of you done both as in the Leaving Cert/A-Levels, and what would be your opinion on the merits of each form of education?

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 21/02/2011 12:23:46    872404

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I learned more Irish outside school than i did in it. If we had been allowed to enjoy our learning in school we would have done much better. Alas getting caned and having your head hammered off the blackboard put many of us off the subject at that time !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 21/02/2011 13:35:36    872493

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Irish was my least favourite subject at school mainly because I struggled at it. If I had a choice at the time I would have taken a different subject. I a litany of bad Irish teachers at school and threaded the class. I have hardly spoken a word of irish since I left school and have no need to speak it. I watch TG4 for rugby and GAA and I can hardly follow any of the commentary. I think the GAA need to be practical about the Irish language. Colm O'Rourke article in yesterday's Sunday Independent put a good argrument forward in relation to this.

Bigboy (Galway) - Posts: 133 - 21/02/2011 17:45:04    872874

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872874 Irish was my least favourite subject at school mainly because I struggled at it. If I had a choice at the time I would have taken a different subject. I a litany of bad Irish teachers at school and threaded the class. I have hardly spoken a word of irish since I left school and have no need to speak it. I watch TG4 for rugby and GAA and I can hardly follow any of the commentary. I think the GAA need to be practical about the Irish language. Colm O'Rourke article in yesterday's Sunday Independent put a good argrument forward in relation to this.

Teachers play a huge roll in the GAA, they also have a vested interest in Irish being obligatory

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 21/02/2011 17:58:30    872898

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20/02/2011 20:53:37
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Dont be daft man, Irish is the language of our pagan ancestors, Latin is where we need to go.





Veni, vidi, vici.

Or as they say in Mayo "NIL ILLEGITIMUS CARBORUNDUM".

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 21/02/2011 21:53:59    873258

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Or as may be appropriate around this place

"Cave ab homine unius libri"

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 22/02/2011 09:26:06    873300

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873300 Or as may be appropriate around this place

"Cave ab homine unius libri"

Too many people in recovery

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 22/02/2011 18:24:01    873926

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still dont know why we are debating this language- if there was ever a case of jobs for the boys taking precidence over the education of our children the irish language is a perfect example of it

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 22/02/2011 19:07:27    873964

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even sign language would be more appropriate than learning irish- as least there is a light possibility that you may use sign language

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 24/02/2011 10:26:51    875141

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875141 even sign language would be more appropriate than learning irish- as least there is a light possibility that you may use sign language

Indeed, but which version?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 24/02/2011 20:21:12    875874

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How come the ads on TG4 are rarely or never in Irish, are businees' loosing out on a huge market potential or do they know better?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 25/02/2011 14:20:06    876271

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21/02/2011 21:53:59
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20/02/2011 20:53:37
dhorse
County: Laois


Dont be daft man, Irish is the language of our pagan ancestors, Latin is where we need to go.





Veni, vidi, vici.

Or as they say in Mayo "NIL ILLEGITIMUS CARBORUNDUM".

No Worries Patrique I'll sort him out in Sunday in Celtic Park... I'll throw him out for disruptive behavior in the stands

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 25/02/2011 16:51:19    876442

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Irish is very useful when you are cleaning toilets in Sydney or New York instead of having a continental language you could use with your qualification to get a well paid job in the E.U.

N16Calling (UK) - Posts: 260 - 25/02/2011 18:55:10    876538

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876538 Irish is very useful when you are cleaning toilets in Sydney or New York instead of having a continental language you could use with your qualification to get a well paid job in the E.U.

Do they pay better for cleaning toilets in the E.U.?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 25/02/2011 20:18:08    876604

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