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doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 16/02/2011 16:51:00    869295

a modelling contracy- thats just too easy.... :D

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 16/02/2011 16:55:27    869301

jimbodub
County: Dublin
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Good decision for Fennell, bad decision for Dublin football.

If it was the other way round and a player wanted to move from Vincents to O'Tooles and Vincents objected would it have gone through?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13830 - 16/02/2011 17:16:21    869324

MesAmis
County: Dublin
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869324 jimbodub
County: Dublin
Posts: 7800

Good decision for Fennell, bad decision for Dublin football.

If it was the other way round and a player wanted to move from Vincents to O'Tooles and Vincents objected would it have gone through?
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Perhaps after 3.5 years... ;)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 16/02/2011 17:22:40    869335

Good to see it's finally sorted!!!

Will we see him on the Gillette ads seen as Tiger aint the flavour of the month lately.

True enough Galvin must be raging the only photo shoot he'd get is for sign saying don't feed the animals.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 16/02/2011 17:25:39    869340

jimbodub
County: Dublin
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It wouldn't have rumbles on that long. It would of been dismissed and the player would of back at Vinnies training or not playing at all.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13830 - 16/02/2011 17:32:53    869353

just because you sign a piece of paper when you are 6 or 7 it should not mean that a club can hold you for life , a lot of players leave for different reasons maybe lack of ambition with the player or his club or your face does not fit or bullying , transfers have not done soccer or rugby any harm and they wont do the gaa any harm either

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 16/02/2011 18:04:29    869410

Think its bad news and a bad decision. O'Tooles were right to refuse

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 16/02/2011 18:08:03    869412

Lacks the pace necessary to make it at the top level of modelling.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 16/02/2011 18:30:45    869436

transfers have not done soccer or rugby any harm and they wont do the gaa any harm either

By 2003 Caltra had never won a Galway senior title. In 2004 they went all the way and won the All-Ireland. Thic could only happen in the GAA, it could never happen in any sport which had a transfer system which meant talent moved to the clubs which are already successful. As I said already I know parish ties aren't half as strong in cities but this certainly won't do anything to strengthen them.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/caltras-epic-story-gives-unique-insight-into-the-real-gaa-140491.html

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 16/02/2011 18:56:35    869465

and doublehop whats your point

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 16/02/2011 19:09:39    869486

delighted for the lad , hopefully now he can go out and express himself and be the talent that all dubs know he is , just out of interest why do you think its bad news witnof?

stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 16/02/2011 19:13:44    869490

I suppose my point is that in any sport transfers keep the established clubs on top and makes it harder for other teams to make a breakthrough. What's unique about the GAA is that one generation of players can come a long for any side and achieve things which would have previously been thought impossible. It would be a shame if that was no longer the case.

Is that okay or do you need me to explain it further?

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 16/02/2011 20:24:52    869563

well that also happens in soccer and rugby

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 16/02/2011 20:49:39    869590

stekhli
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869490 delighted for the lad , hopefully now he can go out and express himself and be the talent that all dubs know he is , just out of interest why do you think its bad news witnof?

Smaller clubs in Dublin are already having huge problems holding onto talented underage players as the bigger clubs poach them away. Fennell had no reason to leave O'Tooles and now he has been allowed. What chance have any intermediate/junior club in Dublin of kicking on and improving if players are allowed transfer like this?

We need to get rid of the obsession in Dublin football of having to play senior club football in order to play for the senior inter-county. Look at the Cork team that won last years All-Ireland, they were drawn from Senior, Inter and Junior clubs.

A bad decision for Dublin football.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13830 - 16/02/2011 21:24:59    869633

tell me mes how is this a bad decision

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 16/02/2011 21:29:55    869640

Why don't you explain how it's a good decision?

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 16/02/2011 21:44:09    869659

top point mes amis, its totally something that needs to change. players should be picked on merit and not who they play for.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1663 - 16/02/2011 21:49:53    869665

Hipster tell me why this is a good decision for Dublin GAA?

I can see why Dub fans will be happy he is back playing club football as he is a player with some potential.

But for the smaller clubs in Dublin and around the country it is a disaster. He didnt seem to have any reason to transfer other than a better chance of winning silverware, as he was already playing the highest standard of club football he could.

Do you not think it is an integral part of the GAA that you play for the your local club, be that junior, intermediate or senior.

Should we have an open market and every player has the option to choose whatever club he/she plays for, which could also carry on to choose his/her county?

clubm (Meath) - Posts: 87 - 16/02/2011 21:56:27    869680

hipster
County: Dublin
Posts: 2091

869640 tell me mes how is this a bad decision

For the reasons outlines above. First off Fennell wanted to go to Ballymun, then Vincents once people got in his ear. If he doesn't win a senior title with Vinnies where next?

Its a decision for the bigger clubs. The DCB were trying to set a new precedant about transfers within Dublin that would protect Inter and Junior clubs. It hasn't worked, the big senior club gets its way and that is very bad for Dublin football. How can inter/junior clubs kick on and get to senior and challenge (which is to the overall benefit of Dublin football) if they're players will be continually vulnerable to poacher clubs. The demographics of Dublin GAA are changing with the massive clubs (numbers wise particularily in the South and West) at a huge advantage. If we allow moves like this to continue we will kill off clubs.

Dublin football is not just the inter-county senior team. We have an unhealthy obsession, that most successful counties don't have, with players playing senior club football.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13830 - 16/02/2011 21:57:55    869686