i have a slight hangover so chilling in the bed before the festivities start again - too much lobster and champers last night :( now if anyone wants to discuss the merits of my arguments please do or if what i say which is 100% true doesnt suit your politics gloss over it by all means and conyinue with the head in the sand view of life!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 04/02/2011 12:27:14    860171

A Soldiers song is the national anthem of the 26 counties and not the entire Island, so as quite a few people have rightfully pointed out here the IRFU are perfectly within their right not to play amhrain na bhfiann before rugby matches, and while a lot of people may not like Ireland's Call it is still a neutral anthem. I can't believe that so many people get caught up in what anthem is played before rugby matches, if we are insisting that amhrain na bhfiann is only played, then we should be called the Republic of Ireland or the 26 counties for at the end of the day that is what our national anthem represents.

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 04/02/2011 12:34:20    860177

gilly2308.
the national anthem is the anthem of the 32 counties of this island .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 04/02/2011 12:48:02    860189

Yes, love rugby. Great sport. I can't say I'm an avid Ulster follower but I like to see all Irish provinces do well and attend the odd Munster and Leinster matches. I've been to the last 3 world cups and NZ is looking good. I don't have a problem with two anthems as there are two cultures involved and this must be respected. 80% of rugby supporters are good skins - the other 20% are mostly insecure pretenders with x2 pairs of shoes, a provincial jersey and a stinking attitude. These sheep only get under your skin if you let them.

Con Cavan (Cavan) - Posts: 894 - 04/02/2011 13:01:44    860196

gilly2308

A Soldiers song is the national anthem of the 26 counties and not the entire Island, so as quite a few people have rightfully pointed out here the IRFU are perfectly within their right not to play amhrain na bhfiann before rugby matches, and while a lot of people may not like Ireland's Call it is still a neutral anthem. I can't believe that so many people get caught up in what anthem is played before rugby matches, if we are insisting that amhrain na bhfiann is only played, then we should be called the Republic of Ireland or the 26 counties for at the end of the day that is what our national anthem represents.


Your spot on there gilly but unfortunately theres too many people on this island in denial about that. Personally I honestly, genuinely couldn't give a monkeys what anthem was played before the games, I feel like someones who's stuck right smack bang in the middle of a mind numbingly boring argument. Of course then people say 'well why did you join the argument if you don't care', well because I have to hear that bloody argument every time I go to an Ireland match, its sooooooooo boring, just watch the game.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 04/02/2011 13:13:19    860211

ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3611

860189 gilly2308.
the national anthem is the anthem of the 32 counties of this island .

Spot on ta. That Irelands call does me feckin head in

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 04/02/2011 13:26:27    860223

Getting back to the theme of the thread, I very much enjoy rugby. Played a wee bit with Omagh Accies when I was 17-18 and really enjoyed it. The rules are not all that complex if you take a bit of time to read them. Granted, the scrum is now becoming a farce with the length of time it now takes to get one completed. I still prefer to watch gaelic football or hurling but would not speak ill of rugby.

With regards to anthems, who really cares? I don't particularly like Ireland's call, however I can understand how protestant ulstermen may be offended by Amhrain na Bhfiann. If lads from the Falls Rd can stand for GSTQ at Windsor Park without it unduly bothering them all the same, then I'm sure the Ulster lads could do the same (and did so for many years) but its not really that big a deal.

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 04/02/2011 13:37:55    860236

Flower of Scotland is not an official National Anthem and neither is the Welsh, Land of our Fathers .Granted, these songs traditionally go back a long way.

Nevertheless, the Irish are not doing anything much different to either of these Nations.

jarhead (Westmeath) - Posts: 285 - 04/02/2011 13:44:53    860246

Htaem
County: Meath
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859881 Yeah jaysus I love me aul rugby so I do and I couldn't give a toss if they played 'god save your one', 'around the field' or 'weile waile' before the game as long as I got the bloody thing.

the one about the tree in the bog would be nice to get things going at half time.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 04/02/2011 13:46:42    860249

ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 3611

860189 gilly2308.
the national anthem is the anthem of the 32 counties of this island .

Wrong

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 04/02/2011 13:47:39    860251

What do some posters want, even more segregation with two Rugby teams on this island? Personally I think having Catholics and Protestants, Nationalists and Unionists playing side by side and alongside each other in the stand supporting the same team is a good thing. Flags and anthems come a distant second to this in my view

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 04/02/2011 13:55:18    860254

Solution: Sing Amhrain na Bhfiann in english.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9897 - 04/02/2011 14:11:04    860263

All we need is a more rousing tune than the dirge that is Irelands Call. Just look at the French team when La Marseillaise is blaring out, the chests are out and they are raring to go, makes me want to go out and kick somebodies head in!! Watch the Ireland team, its all so 'safe', bland and inoffensive, how's that supposed to motivate them, should stick on King of the Faeries by the Horlsips, that'll waken them up!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 04/02/2011 14:27:31    860284

Lockjaw
County: Donegal
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860263 Solution: Sing Amhrain na Bhfiann in english.

Shovin' Connie Around the Green.

Would that be the Queens English?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 04/02/2011 14:32:35    860294

dhorse

the one about the tree in the bog would be nice to get things going at half time.


Spot on dhorse, see you out in Rome on saturday for a rousing duet ye?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 04/02/2011 14:45:33    860311

Htaem
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860311 dhorse

the one about the tree in the bog would be nice to get things going at half time.


Spot on dhorse, see you out in Rome on saturday for a rousing duet ye?

Could do a good weekend in rome no bother although livigno would be more my territory. Alas rugby does nothing for me, but live and and let live i say.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 04/02/2011 14:51:16    860319

I agree that nothing would get you going before a match like your own anthem. So why not play GSTQ as well as Amhrán na bhFiann. They already play two songs before home matches and this way each player and fan gets to hear their anthem before the match

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 04/02/2011 15:01:12    860329

dhorse.
explain how i am wrong , or are you just wumming again , they are 32 counties in ireland are they not , split up of four provinces ? well

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 04/02/2011 15:05:24    860335

pomeroyplunkett.
play two anthems then is that it , sure why dont we just split the irish jersey in half , and have it half in english with the rose , that really makes a lot of logic plunkett... one word missing in the link of all of this ... one word ...BACKBONE BACKBONE BACKBONE , there is no backbone .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 04/02/2011 15:09:16    860343

dhorse

Could do a good weekend in rome no bother although livigno would be more my territory. Alas rugby does nothing for me, but live and and let live i say.


Ah your into the aul slopes are ye dhorse, sure thats grand I wouldn't mind giving that a go meself.....heard its **** easy :-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 04/02/2011 15:10:35    860346