To our northern friends,

The people of southern Ireland consider ye just as Irish as the rest of us. Never mind one or two wind up merchants.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 28/01/2011 10:11:33    855524

Amen Sergeant_Slash.

Wests_Awake (Galway) - Posts: 877 - 28/01/2011 10:46:19    855563

Jez lads any of you who respond to liathroidboy have less brains than he has. He is like the swarm of flys at a beach. The more you swot the more they will annoy. Just ignore and they eventually get bored.

I for one am comfortbale with who I am. I dont need to justify my Nationality to some wind-up merchant on an internet forum. I suggest you do the same.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 28/01/2011 10:55:49    855569

its wrong to say the people of ireland think the people of the north are irish - all it takes is one person to disagree and that hypothesis does not hold! lawfully british and thats all that matters as thats all thats true- anything else is completely irrelavant so you can dress it up any way you want but at the end of the day the facts remain the same

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 28/01/2011 10:59:58    855573

Both liathroidboy and Sergent Slash, I'd appreciate if neither of you made generalisations as to what "the people of Southern Ireland" feel, think or opine on anything.

My opinion on the Irishness, or otherwise of people from the 6 counties is my own, just as everybody else in the 26 has their own opinion on it as well. I'm not sure what makes you think that you can speak on behalf of the remainder of the population, but you're as bad as each other for claiming that this, that or the the other is what "everyone" thinks.

My opinion is that everyone born in the North is as entitled to regard themselves as Irish, they've been born on the island of Ireland haven't they?

However, I don't see how my opinion (or anyone else's opinion) on the matter has any relevence. I'd like to think that each person in the North, whatever they like to think of themselves, is secure enough in their own identity that they don't need to re-assurances of anonymous internet forumites as to their national identity.

black&white (Sligo) - Posts: 1628 - 28/01/2011 11:10:09    855583

Black and white - i did not make any generalisations about the people of the north- i disputed his hypothesis as being totally wrong which it is by stating that if i do not agree then you cant saly 'the people of the south agree' as that is simply not true.

I have not claimed to know what anyone thinks either- if i have please point it out to me?

I also have not given any opinions on the matter- if i have point them out? I think opinions are a great idea and everyone should have them, but we all know and appreciate that opinions always come second to legally established facts!

I think you can fully see that i have done nothing you say and if i have please point it out- I deal in fact and nothing else so i think you can appreciate that your post 100% does not concern me! An appolgy is in order if you are man enough!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 28/01/2011 11:53:24    855629

I have not claimed to know what anyone thinks either- if i have please point it out to me?

Here's one instance:
Cause even those who are educated in this country think they are something special
There's plenty more, but I haven't the energy to go back through the complex world of logic gaps and grammatical errors that comprise your postings on here.

I deal in fact and nothing else

If this is the case, then surely you accept that, under the Good Friday Agreement, anyone born on the island of Ireland is entitled to be identified as Irish, and is entitled to Irish citizenship.
Furthermore, the adjective "British" is a misnomer when used to refer to somebody in the North who is not of English, Scottish or Welsh descent. Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, nor is it part of the island of Britain. The fact that British has replace "subject/Citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" doesn't make it factually correct. Britain/Great Britain is not interchangable with the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, despite being incorrectly used as such.
Surely a man who claims such great intelligence would be able to comprehend these points?

black&white (Sligo) - Posts: 1628 - 28/01/2011 13:10:25    855701

black@white.
i do appreciate were you are coming from , but on the other hand seargent_slash is fully correct to spell out a few wind up merchants who constanly come on here and try and undermine the nationalists and irish people of the six counties and try and dictate without absolutaly no understanding or feelings for their brothers in the occupied six who went through hell and back , but instead of feeling empathy and one of support , which do not get me wrong they are a lot out there who care , other people and posters make fun of northern nationalists and the times that they went through , no other country in the world would do this to their own people and the hostility that comes with it , maybe a lot of it comes down to guilt that so many stood back and done nothing , then it puts them in the moral high ground to judge people from the six counties who through severe odds stacked against us , played our gaelic games and music and culture , a feeling of pride should be looked upon those people who kept the flame alive , instead of one of frown and shame , i honestly do not know were it comes from , but as i say it could be huge chip due to guilt . searget_slash well said , also black@white i do admire some of your comments which come across as sincere , but these sort of comments need cutting out , due to the bitterness and hostility that they hold.

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 28/01/2011 14:13:05    855761

While some in the 26 have been building their NOW worthless property portfolios over the past 20 years the Irish language, music tradition and GAA have been kept alive and is thriving in all parts of Ulster. I have often heard visitors who come North express their surprise AND shame that they feel that their Irish culture, identity and indeed religion is appreciated more in the 6 counties than the South; I have particularly heard some priests and Irish language enthusiasts say that. West Belfast is now a major and very important Gaeltacht area on the island. Maybe the fact that over 1500 Irish Catholic Nationalists have been murdered for their religion and culture the past 40 years has given people here a more sense of who and what they they are. That people like ballboy sees fit to ridicule and make fun of this is quite shameful. The graveyards tell a different story ballboy, a very different one. Stand at their graves and tell those people they weren't killed because they WEREN'T Irish, Catholic, Nationalist or Republican.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9817 - 28/01/2011 21:53:31    856186

its only a matter of time before the shinners have the arses on the soft seats really not sure the difference between them and the sdlp both say rhey want a unitied country but workin in the british system must surely only strenghten the connection with the brits what a difference a few pounds make

ianog (Down) - Posts: 416 - 29/01/2011 09:40:19    856198

britiah people- working for the crown and they claim to want a united ireland- its actually laughable

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 29/01/2011 12:13:23    856252